Groulxsmith posted:Groulxsmith posted:actually becoming muslim would probably be worse, but that is a lot more of a commitment and not really compatible with some lifestyles
my whole (atheist) family is really happy with me becoming muslim probably mostly because its obviously made me a better person in a lot of ways and ive become more family oriented
Groulxsmith posted:deadken posted:
who are u talkin about specifically here most of lf marxcrew seemed p clued up imoi can't remember specific people right now, but certain things always came up, like people would say 'kill whitey' and i always hated that. so i'd point out how incompatible that is with marxism then people would just say i was trolling or turn it around and called me a white supremacist
when i'm mod, idioms like "kill whitey" will be bannable, as will idioms like "it absorbs water like a sponge"
deadken posted:
Impper posted:
me + a friend do coke and talk about lacan in a purely theoretical and abstract manner its cool
ahhe no offense but i bet those are some of the most ridiculous/funny conversations one could ever overheard . . .
Groulxsmith posted:deadken posted:
who are u talkin about specifically here most of lf marxcrew seemed p clued up imoi can't remember specific people right now, but certain things always came up, like people would say 'kill whitey' and i always hated that. so i'd point out how incompatible that is with marxism then people would just say i was trolling or turn it around and called me a white supremacist
o yea but the kill whitey/scourge the earth lot never actually talked about, you know, actual marxism
Impper posted:
my dad actually loves when i talk about communism and always wants me to tell him more about "that stalin guy"
wanna meet that dad
Impper posted:babyfinland posted:
deadken posted:
babyfinland posted:
Capitalism doesnt give you emotional disorders bro. his problem is not a socioeconomic organizational mode
your brain is like me sort of tbh (though my situation is different). i think its just being a man.
well not his specific disorders i dont think. although shit like the commodification of sexuality probably doesnt help. actually is sex commodified in the same way in homosexual interaction. i have literally no idea because im a lazy straight cismale. but the point is that capitalism makes everyone frustrated and unhappy. except me
youre being ridiculous and that kind of attitude is enabling of spoiled brats to be miserable and entitled, which is the essence of liberal vanity and complacency. emotional disorders are a combination of biological and psychological disfunction, not socioeconomic organization. depresso losers didnt magically get healthy under the soviet union
certum est quia impossibilei don't think this is entirely true. a lot of mental disorders that exist today are specifically stigmatized because they're deleterious to the capitalistic mode of production. which is to speak nothing of the alienation which is produced by industrialism, but that's another issue entirely
none of that has anything to do with severe mood swings
deadken posted:
without sorrow there would be no poetry
“What is a Poet? An unhappy man who hides deep anguish in his heart, but whose lips are so formed that when the sigh and cry pass through them, it sounds like lovely music"
Impper posted:deadken posted:
Impper posted:
me + a friend do coke and talk about lacan in a purely theoretical and abstract manner its coolahhe no offense but i bet those are some of the most ridiculous/funny conversations one could ever overheard . . .
oh yeah def
a thing my friend said: "what about war against the Symbolic. lets destroy the symbolic order"
deadken posted:
dont really like sex that much, i have it quite a lot but in the back of my head im always thinking 'this isnt fighting capital'
The modern act of sex is counter-revolutionary. As long as we think of sex in terms of a curve that, starting from zero, rises more or less slowly toward the acme of orgasm, only to decrease suddenly and return to the starting point, we remain a victim of an attitude that experiences sexual feeling as a more or less long preparation for a very brief climax destined to precipitate to the zero point of normality deprived of tension, from which it seems that one has never moved after all.
swampman posted:
Did everyone see me win the election? Does anyone know what position it was for...?
It was for moderator! You won! You may now access the Mod Forum.
babyfinland posted:
Impper posted:
none of that has anything to do with severe mood swings
certum est quia impossibile
actually i think you're wrong. my brother has bipolar disorder and the shape his illness takes is vastly affected by his surroundings, the people around him, his situation, and so on. it's not crazy to think that another model of society would at least have different manifestations of illness, even if they have the same biological underpinnings
DRUXXX posted:deadken posted:
dont really like sex that much, i have it quite a lot but in the back of my head im always thinking 'this isnt fighting capital'The modern act of sex is counter-revolutionary. As long as we think of sex in terms of a curve that, starting from zero, rises more or less slowly toward the acme of orgasm, only to decrease suddenly and return to the starting point, we remain a victim of an attitude that experiences sexual feeling as a more or less long preparation for a very brief climax destined to precipitate to the zero point of normality deprived of tension, from which it seems that one has never moved after all.
uh yeah if youre a dude and understand sex entirely in terms of the male orgasm i guess but if thats your conceptualisation of sex youre not doing it right
Impper posted:babyfinland posted:
Impper posted:
none of that has anything to do with severe mood swings
certum est quia impossibileactually i think you're wrong. my brother has bipolar disorder and the shape his illness takes is vastly affected by his surroundings, the people around him, his situation, and so on. it's not crazy to think that another model of society would at least have different manifestations of illness, even if they have the same biological underpinnings
my point is that its really awful to encourage this line of thinking that oh you cant actually get better because capitalism exists so instead you should wallow in misanthropic rage and be miserable forever until The Second Coming of Trotsky
get a real religion imo
deadken posted:
o yea but the kill whitey/scourge the earth lot never actually talked about, you know, actual marxism
i got in a tweet war with LF MTW people over that, it ended with him conceding that marx must have been wrong on historical materialism. so i guess you're right
deadken posted:
i been rereading zarathustra and the bit on the Last Men is like the best thing ever written imo. im a fuckign teenager
today a car deliberately hit me while i was on my bicycle so tomorrow im going down to that intersection at about the same time of day and if i see them drive through it im going to pull them out of their car and beat the living fuck out of them so i am also a teenager so lets fuck
babyfinland posted:Groulxsmith posted:babyfinland posted:
lol if your parents give two shits about communismsit is a pretty shocking thing for a lot of middle class americans, and if not that, probably something where the parents wonder where they went wrong. especially if you don't want to come out as anything weirder just yet and get cut off
my dad is pretty staunchly right wing and worked for a deeply anti-communist government organization most of his lief and didnt care at all when i told him i was interested in marxism. my mom thinks mao is cool but doesnt like stalin because hes russian (shes finnish)
well then she'll be pleasantly surprised to learn he is Georgian, the very same nation that recently fought a war against Russia!
Crow posted:babyfinland posted:Groulxsmith posted:babyfinland posted:
lol if your parents give two shits about communismsit is a pretty shocking thing for a lot of middle class americans, and if not that, probably something where the parents wonder where they went wrong. especially if you don't want to come out as anything weirder just yet and get cut off
my dad is pretty staunchly right wing and worked for a deeply anti-communist government organization most of his lief and didnt care at all when i told him i was interested in marxism. my mom thinks mao is cool but doesnt like stalin because hes russian (shes finnish)
well then she'll be pleasantly surprised to learn he is Georgian, the very same nation that recently fought a war against Russia!
lol if you think that matters, dude invaded finland totally uncouthlike
babyfinland posted:
my point is that its really awful to encourage this line of thinking that oh you cant actually get better because capitalism exists so instead you should wallow in misanthropic rage and be miserable forever until The Second Coming of Trotsky
get a real religion imo
i dont think anyones saying that tho? like mm looks a lot more sane now hes done a sex, he's progressing from deranged psychosis to generalised neuroticism, its the neuroticism of society thats caused by capitalism + alienation. our ultimate aim should be sorrow, deep poignant sorrow, without neuroticism
babyfinland posted:
oh you cant actually get better because capitalism exists so instead you should wallow in misanthropic rage and be miserable forever until The Second Coming of Trotsky
this is literally me esp when you consider my attitude toward The Trotsky (2009)
deadken posted:babyfinland posted:
my point is that its really awful to encourage this line of thinking that oh you cant actually get better because capitalism exists so instead you should wallow in misanthropic rage and be miserable forever until The Second Coming of Trotsky
get a real religion imoi dont think anyones saying that tho? like mm looks a lot more sane now hes done a sex, he's progressing from deranged psychosis to generalised neuroticism, its the neuroticism of society thats caused by capitalism + alienation. our ultimate aim should be sorrow, deep poignant sorrow, without neuroticism
ok my bad. just dont tell mentally or emotionally ill people that Sux about capitalism bro. that encourages complacency and degeneracy which for the ill subject is always assaulting the ego
gyrofry posted:
embrace gleeful fatalistic hedonism ftw
swampman posted:
deadken posted:
i been rereading zarathustra and the bit on the Last Men is like the best thing ever written imo. im a fuckign teenager
today a car deliberately hit me while i was on my bicycle so tomorrow im going down to that intersection at about the same time of day and if i see them drive through it im going to pull them out of their car and beat the living fuck out of them so i am also a teenager so lets fuck
yeah ok
babyfinland posted:
my point is that its really awful to encourage this line of thinking that oh you cant actually get better because capitalism exists so instead you should wallow in misanthropic rage and be miserable forever until The Second Coming of Trotsky
get a real religion imo
certum est quia impossibile
well obviously it's st upid to be defeatist and idiotic about something, but that doesn't mean you should buy into the dominant model of mental illness either?
deadken posted:
agree w/ getting a real religion tho
whats ur fave
Impper posted:babyfinland posted:
my point is that its really awful to encourage this line of thinking that oh you cant actually get better because capitalism exists so instead you should wallow in misanthropic rage and be miserable forever until The Second Coming of Trotsky
get a real religion imo
certum est quia impossibilewell obviously it's st upid to be defeatist and idiotic about something, but that doesn't mean you should buy into the dominant model of mental illness either?
agreed. debate concluded
gyrofry posted:deadken posted:
agree w/ getting a real religion thowhats ur fave
christianity obvs
deadken posted:
babyfinland posted:
my point is that its really awful to encourage this line of thinking that oh you cant actually get better because capitalism exists so instead you should wallow in misanthropic rage and be miserable forever until The Second Coming of Trotsky
get a real religion imo
i dont think anyones saying that tho? like mm looks a lot more sane now hes done a sex, he's progressing from deranged psychosis to generalised neuroticism, its the neuroticism of society thats caused by capitalism + alienation. our ultimate aim should be sorrow, deep poignant sorrow, without neuroticism
hey it's me at my best moments. unfortunately women don't always get on the deep poignant sorrow train so occasionally i seek to repress it, which leads to neuroticism. i'm at my best when i'm a totally charismatic sorrowhaver tho
And racists
Impper posted:
hey it's me at my best moments. unfortunately women don't always get on the deep poignant sorrow train so occasionally i seek to repress it, which leads to neuroticism. i'm at my best when i'm a totally charismatic sorrowhaver tho
that owns. im an emotionally shallow hedonist tho who wants to be a poetic sorrowhaver & thats why im neurotic lol. maybe. i really want to be psychoanalysed
babyfinland posted:
ill kick your ass rus dog shit
You will be pleasantly surprised i am not rus. Ownage
this reminds me of how the fins had some sniper that tried to kill my great grandmother, a battlefield surgeon, by shooting her in the head, but he was so inept that she removed the bullet fragment from her head with the aid of some medics and a mirror. Shame on finland! The only finnish girl i know was an aryan that came over for student exchange to Texas and she and her friends LOVE texas, home of the free whites! Shame!!
deadken posted:
my dads going there for a medical conference and i will meet him. i remember when i first found out i was going to california everyone in lf told me i would be mistaken for a mexican and get racisms lol. this has not yet happened. maybe in the great shit wastes
probably you will be exposed to more racism in the big European cities than the big cities in Texas, especially if you are mistaken for a mexican.