Zen_Punk posted:

uh this is place for disillusioned twentysomethings with fond memories of a failed subforum of a comedy message board so...

welcome!

new title for the thread.

shermanstick posted:

i only ever looked at the picture thread on LF because i am functionally retarded/autistic and only post here so as to offer my consistently misinformed and sexually aggressive opinions

g-.. goatstein?

tpaine posted:

emanalagropilon has a neckbeard everybodhy

fuck yeah how many ounces out of 40 are you at

tpaine posted:

stegosaurus posted:

tpaine posted:

emanalagropilon has a neckbeard everybodhy

fuck yeah how many ounces out of 40 are you at

i can't buy FORTIES IN THIS STATE! YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT!!

do you mean a state of undress

gyrofry posted:

at one point in time i was in favor of freeing cycloneboy, but he's been so consistently entertaining in the isolation unit that I have changed my mind

Crow posted:

at this point i am kind of drawing to the end of my shock & outrage and just falling into apathy, so i'll try to be brief:

there is a huge moralistic component to "criticism" i have seen in these sorts of internet spaces, maybe its interlocked with the first world, but it's actually pretty demoralizing to go through these motions over and over. it's basically a very deep well of resentment, and of course it doesn't have to do with particular individual figures per se, not even institutions or system designated 'capitalism' / 'imperialism' / 'patriarchy' (or 'socialism or 'misandry' for that matter), but it's a kind of generative of personal traumas. that is, it's a deployment of personal misery, circumstances beyond ones control, etc. this is the how the self-loathing in wddp played out alternatively between ego-stroking of self-destructive habits and, more importantly, hysterical denunciations of perceived wrongs, in reality ambiguous at best.

the fact that it took on a certain nature, while indicative (as nietzsche points out with socialists), is not actually determinate. the kind of 'leftist' form it took probably has more to do with the particular historical instance of symbolic (eg. obama darkhorse, terminal anticommunism) & economic crisis (2008 crisis), rather than an actual 'essence' of communism or leftism in general. so you have people sort of 'play-acting' revolutionary communist party, where it's important to attack certain individual tendencies in other members, when in fact this is a faulty fantasy. ie. it isnt in the space of like life-or-death struggle, but pure virtuality that's more about fighting your own personal demons rather than moderating a healthy (or for that matter, flagging) political organization.

so you have intentional (or, worse for me to admit, unintentional) misreadings, you have these sort of impassioned public denunciations of friends, sidewipes kind of brought up obliquely (where only two or three people actually know what it means), calculated to cause maximum damage. and all of this takes place in the space of ambiguity. this is crucial, in the space of ambiguity in language (particularly the large gap left open in textual communication, free of physical cues), you kind of see a play of psychological drama. a projection. so like, you take a small little tv show article written on a website that has a real dearth of content, and then attack it for what it DOESNT say, for what content DOESNT exist on the website, and attack the person for NOT MENTIONING WHAT IT DOESNT SAY, and make it an essential, symptomatic 'thing-of-that-person'. that's indicative of this psychological drama being acted out in these sorts of broadsides.

or like when you talk about the carnegie foundation, there's alot of like completely constructed assertions about what discipline was saying, like "Oh since you think palestinian identity is rooted in the countryside, well then you must be saying this and this dismissively about urban palestinians". when its like, this person 1) has lived in palestine, 2) has done research on the way palestinian identity is rooted from the countryside, and 3) how NGOs and developers are working with the Israeli authorities to basically re-make the palestinian identity in an urban neoliberal landscape. and then linking the outrage or cynicism that the (very brief) article contextualizes the sneering ideology at play in the CF with 'condescension towards Russians & Caucasians' is a leap that boggles my mind, a Russian-Caucasian. like it's at the point when, to make your point on what discipline DIDNT say, one has to dismiss the *very idea of communist propaganda*. bWUH?!

i remember the thing mistersix was saying shortly before he stopped posting. i think it was during another wave of denunciations and when people were at each other's throats. everyone was complaining about the lack of content, or the quality of the writign and the posts, and kind of dragging each other through the dirt and it had its tinges of self-loathing and whatever. and he was like, well, if you don't like that there is a lack of content, why dont you write something, why dont you fill in the gap with what you want to see in this forum. you know, instead of dragging each other through the dirt for the sake of 'criticism', how about relaxing a little and trying to generate these new forms of what you want to see, enact your critique rather than try to stifle it. because people are paralyzed as it is with their personal struggles, and it seems to be sometimes not only is something written just for the sake of contention, but frequently with a huge ego investment, a written gesture of resentment through the veil of illness. like, i really have no will to write anything for this website with the sort of mean-spirited shit i see. its no longer even in the stages of 'oh, I should write something about this on the rhizzone', and more of a 'i should go start an anonymous blog'.

otherwise, i seriously suggest kind of settling down, and taking a much more kinder view of people that arent auspiciously your enemy. especially ones that honestly try to strive towards worthy goals. because, otherwise, truly youre only lashing out at yourself. PEACE.

deadken posted:

i thing i wrote is being printed in an australian post-trot magazine. next stop, an occasional column in the observer. i will take a hammer to the gates of Punditry and blind everyone within with the glare of my Whiteness