MadMedico posted:So how is Iceland going to determine what is violent pornography and what is progressive sex positive erotica? Are they going to have a review board who will like watch movies and review websites using a set criteria?
MadMedico posted:discipline posted:omg imagine the crying into hankies when Icelanders can't jerk it to women being choked on cocks and slapped around and spat on
Well they can still do it through proxies, VPNs and bittorrent sites. It'll just take a bit more effort.
thirdplace posted:Crow posted:http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/prostitute_kidnapped_forced_harlem_fbii9oNNZ4wlayLUngOwVLhmm, reminds me alot of the service industry
i know you're havin a laugh but i bet people wouldn't be so unfazed by men renting womens' bodies for rape if everyone weren't taught from childhood on that there's nothing wrong with renting peoples' bodies for everything else
wait are you saying that modern capitalism provides its own instance of the patriarchal form? Well, I guess we'd have to address BOTH of em, eh?
discipline posted:they should castrate men who rape women, who buy women for sex, who watch women get slapped around and jack off to it
what if some men jack off to other men getting castrated for violent porn... here we see a paradox in your argument, it seems?
Crow posted:thirdplace posted:Crow posted:http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/prostitute_kidnapped_forced_harlem_fbii9oNNZ4wlayLUngOwVLhmm, reminds me alot of the service industry
i know you're havin a laugh but i bet people wouldn't be so unfazed by men renting womens' bodies for rape if everyone weren't taught from childhood on that there's nothing wrong with renting peoples' bodies for everything else
wait are you saying that modern capitalism provides its own instance of the patriarchal form? Well, I guess we'd have to address BOTH of em, eh?
degree not kind, imo. kill them all either way
MadMedico posted:How will this affect gay Native American porn and prostate massage videos which we've seen earlier in this thread are favorites of Icelandic porn connoisseurs?
this isn't as complex as you make it out to be. we simply feed a usb key filled with our oppression index into a supercomputer and it will decide a range of punishments for forms of regressive pornography and a range of subsidies for films that present america as a 1950s paradise.
Ironicwarcriminal posted:The genie is out of the bottle guys, states cannot ‘ban’ things they do not like anymore
sure they can. i trust the police.
getfiscal posted:this isn't as complex as you make it out to be. we simply feed a usb key filled with our oppression index into a supercomputer and it will decide a range of punishments for forms of regressive pornography and a range of subsidies for films that present america as a 1950s paradise.
do these subsidies include videos of couples masturbated in separate beds at least 70 cm apart
discipline posted:well I guess people will still watch child pornography and rape people even if it is illegal.. what is the point then... in making anything illegal... what use the state in trying times of the internet
sister, you are entering some earth-shattering territory...the TRUE theory of liberation.
discipline posted:omg imagine the crying into hankies when Icelanders can't jerk it to women being choked on cocks and slapped around and spat on
im imagining it and uh.. er- *shifts hands to cover awkward bulge*
SariBari posted:sister, you are entering some earth-shattering territory...the TRUE theory of liberation.
haha are you seriously not even a hoxhaist? lol noob
discipline posted:
came here to post this
just a heads up to occasional rhizzone poster "Hitler"
Iceland also ‘took a stand’ in the forties and was invaded and occupied by the US and while I understand that they are proud of their independence and defiance (and probably incorporate it into their national myth), the fact of them objection did not actually change anything.
Likewise, they can ‘ban violent porn’ and theorists and activists can congratulate themselves and use Icelands policy as a tool to criticize their own societies, but Iceland hosts the new Emerald Atlantic super high speed transatlantic internet cable, thus being one of the largest facilitators of pornography in the world. While they’re congratulating themselves on their purity and non-complicity, the tundra underneath their feet hums with a million terabytes of chokingsluts.com. Rejecting their access to the cable would be a sign of true conviction but as it is this is just providing busywork for parliamentarians and academics.
I get that it’s an important issue of social interest but could we please not discuss it as if it’s a meaningful or ethically admirable policy. It’s the attitude of a drug dealer who feels morally superior to his junkie customers because he doesn’t use himself.
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:I get that it’s an important issue of social interest but could we please not discuss it as if it’s a meaningful or ethically admirable policy. It’s the attitude of a drug dealer who feels morally superior to his junkie customers because he doesn’t use himself.
nauseating, it's a group of professionals writing a letter of support to a government for even being willing to talk about pornography and prostitution in real life terms and you still find a way to demonize, whom, exactly? people in support of a "civilized" govt trying to find a way to filter very profitable misogyny?
can you tell me what you know about the nordic model? what do you find so insignificant about the decrease in certain serious violence against prostitutes and the increase in reports of violence against them by johns? are you totally ignorant of it or are you actually secretly grossed out by the fact that it demonstrates men who pay for sex still have plenty of serious issues even when their flesh trade is regulated? let this buttoned up judgmental prude ask you one favor: can you please stick to the real isht at hand and not project about drug addicts and being grossed out by johns?
SariBari posted:Ironicwarcriminal posted:
I get that it’s an important issue of social interest but could we please not discuss it as if it’s a meaningful or ethically admirable policy. It’s the attitude of a drug dealer who feels morally superior to his junkie customers because he doesn’t use himself.
nauseating, it's a group of professionals writing a letter of support to a government for even being willing to talk about pornography and prostitution in real life terms and you still find a way to demonize, whom, exactly? people in support of a "civilized" govt trying to find a way to filter very profitable misogyny?
can you tell me what you know about the nordic model? what do you find so insignificant about the decrease in certain serious violence against prostitutes and the increase in reports of violence against them by johns? are you totally ignorant of it or are you actually secretly grossed out by the fact that it demonstrates men who pay for sex still have plenty of serious issues even when their flesh trade is regulated? let this buttoned up judgmental prude ask you one favor: can you please stick to the real isht at hand and not project about drug addicts and being grossed out by johns?
I am sorry that in using an analogy i erred from the Correct terminology.
This isn’t about prostitution it’s about pornography. Iceland is having it's cake and eating it too: As a transatlantic hub they benefit hugely from transmitting and distributing the very stuff that they are convinced is so harmful.
I have no problem with the scholars writing the letter, i'm sure they care very passionately about this but it's important to look at the material conditions in which this debate is taking place. As the primary transmission point between the perverted societies of North America and Europe, Iceland will still continue to be one of the largest peddlers of violent pornography in the world. Perhaps that letter would have been improved by raising this point as it seems like a bit of an omission.
For a less incendiary analogy than the junkie, it’s the same as what Australia does: pat itself on the back for it’s environmental controls while exporting massive quantities of coal to Asia to be used in very unsound ways.
swampman posted:Since they're trying to criminalize benefit from transmission and distribution of extreme pornography, they're not having their cake and eating it too.
So they’re going to criminalize the Iceland public who benefits from these extreme-porn-transmitting cables by having some of the best internet functionality in the world?
I guess Icelandic kids deserve to be shielded from violent filth but they’ll happily give it a push on to children in Manchester or Seville
