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east germany murdered over a thousand people for trying to leave, which is another minor sign that it wasn't a good country.
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Mike Nelson here.
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as for the "being able to leave" thing, I had this conversation with two different groups yesterday actually. if you sink a lot of investment into education, housing, healthcare etc and there exists a strike breaker who is offering a half mil, house and job to your doctors and scientists, you will generally be cautious of people leaving. also you have to patiently explain that the ability to travel is a privilege that not many have

*shudders*

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tpaine posted:

seriously i can't get over this



it would make a great opening to an ABC drama about someone from the occupy movement caught in a net of conspiracies they could never have imagined

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Mike Nelson here.
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only the mass of people working in concert under common ideals change the course of human development.

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Tautology : http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2600/2600-h/2600-h.htm#link2H_4_0370
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Mike Nelson here.
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quind used to be great at coming up with creepy justifications for socialist crimes like that. remember that thread he posted about how soviet rapes of germans weren't bad because it was a form of revolutionary violence. good times.
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getfiscal posted:

quind used to be great at coming up with creepy justifications for socialist crimes like that. remember that thread he posted about how soviet rapes of germans weren't bad because it was a form of revolutionary violence. good times.



please keep moralizing about Nazi Germany canadian

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hi
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getfiscal posted:

quind used to be great at coming up with creepy justifications for socialist crimes like that. remember that thread he posted about how soviet rapes of germans weren't bad because it was a form of revolutionary violence. good times.


http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2987002

for those who don't have archives:
http://i.imgur.com/l4KG5W9.png

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Mike Nelson here.
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prikryl posted:

please keep moralizing about Nazi Germany canadian

yeah, just like that.

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lmao how does it feel to be more of an idiot than quind
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Mike Nelson here.
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prikryl posted:

lmao how does it feel to be more of an idiot than quind

1. quind is actually brilliant and i've always known i'm less intelligent than him.

2. you joined the PSL.

#257
Kurdt
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lol
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Online
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discipline posted:

getfiscal posted:

east germany murdered over a thousand people for trying to leave, which is another minor sign that it wasn't a good country.

as for the "being able to leave" thing, I had this conversation with two different groups yesterday actually. if you sink a lot of investment into education, housing, healthcare etc and there exists a strike breaker who is offering a half mil, house and job to your doctors and scientists, you will generally be cautious of people leaving. also you have to patiently explain that the ability to travel is a privilege that not many have

stop trolling donald

donalds not trolling, he's just having one of his down days, those days where all his doubts seize him and take hold of him, begin to crush him, and he's here possessed by those doubts, preaching them like a vicar from hell, but ultimately hoping to be exorcised of them by the community, so he can be restored to his happier state of ing it up like a boss.

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HenryKrinkle posted:

getfiscal posted:

quind used to be great at coming up with creepy justifications for socialist crimes like that. remember that thread he posted about how soviet rapes of germans weren't bad because it was a form of revolutionary violence. good times.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2987002

for those who don't have archives:
http://i.imgur.com/l4KG5W9.png

lmao at my awesome posts in that thread. five years ago

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Kurdt
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lol donald
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2987002&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=3#post350836134
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Kurdt
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haha this is the best quind post http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2987002&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=6#post350842821
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gyrofry posted:

lol donald
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2987002&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=3#post350836134


gyrofry posted:

haha this is the best quind post http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2987002&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=6#post350842821



Damn those are good posts by Senor Lowtax

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getfiscal posted:

the reason why people think of leftist organizations as cults is because normal people tend not to gravitate towards them. this is because leftism is the simplistic idea that "people should share" extrapolated into entire fantasy systems that make it some sort of angry imperative. accordingly these people rationalize all sorts of things in order to meet organizational goals, which they see as one and the same as fidelity to their warped morality. so when an average person is confronted by a leftist they don't really understand why it's so important that they buy the latest book about why socialism never really failed or whatever. this is also why the vast majority of people will always reject solid radical left platforms in most situations, explaining why almost all socialist countries have been dictatorships against the people. this is all plainly obvious, as well, which is why most people don't like talking about it.



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getfiscal posted:

most people live fine lives without needing leftism. when given the chance, the vast majority of these people will never vote for a radical left party. this has convinced most radical leftists that liberal-democracy itself must be destroyed in one way or another, which they cover under euphemisms like "socialist democracy" and the like. fortunately there will always be people willing to fight this form of socialism if it manages to grip the throat of a country for a short period.

mod note: this is a good thread, don't shit it up you poor, broken man



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Crow posted:

Damn those are good posts by Senor Lowtax





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HenryKrinkle posted:

Crow posted:

Damn those are good posts by Senor Lowtax




http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/sunday-review/the-holocaust-just-got-more-shocking.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

Dr. Dean, a co-researcher, said the findings left no doubt in his mind that many German citizens, despite the frequent claims of ignorance after the war, must have known about the widespread existence of the Nazi camps at the time.

“You literally could not go anywhere in Germany without running into forced labor camps, P.O.W. camps, concentration camps,” he said. “They were everywhere.”

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HenryKrinkle posted:

getfiscal posted:

quind used to be great at coming up with creepy justifications for socialist crimes like that. remember that thread he posted about how soviet rapes of germans weren't bad because it was a form of revolutionary violence. good times.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2987002

for those who don't have archives:
http://i.imgur.com/l4KG5W9.png



i didn't know Tom was perma'd from SA

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ilmdge posted:

discipline posted:

getfiscal posted:

east germany murdered over a thousand people for trying to leave, which is another minor sign that it wasn't a good country.

as for the "being able to leave" thing, I had this conversation with two different groups yesterday actually. if you sink a lot of investment into education, housing, healthcare etc and there exists a strike breaker who is offering a half mil, house and job to your doctors and scientists, you will generally be cautious of people leaving. also you have to patiently explain that the ability to travel is a privilege that not many have

stop trolling donald

donalds not trolling, he's just having one of his down days, those days where all his doubts seize him and take hold of him, begin to crush him, and he's here possessed by those doubts, preaching them like a vicar from hell, but ultimately hoping to be exorcised of them by the community, so he can be restored to his happier state of ing it up like a boss.

i was juts thinking lol, what if it's the opposite and he's only hardcore communist when he's depressed and it's when he's trolling us with social democracfy that he has a healthy mindset

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then i guess communism will win out in the end lol
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discipline posted:

I had a cool conversation with my german friends about this stuff last night, they are from the GDR and are scared of communism. also my german friends always bring up soviet rape it's weird



Not sure why that's weird. Like if an indigenous friend was always bringing up colonial dispossession i'd understand why

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discipline posted:

getfiscal posted:

east germany murdered over a thousand people for trying to leave, which is another minor sign that it wasn't a good country.



as for the "being able to leave" thing, I had this conversation with two different groups yesterday actually. if you sink a lot of investment into education, housing, healthcare etc and there exists a strike breaker who is offering a half mil, house and job to your doctors and scientists, you will generally be cautious of people leaving. also you have to patiently explain that the ability to travel is a privilege that not many have

stop trolling donald



most people have the privilege of being able to 'travel' around their own city. I take your points but cutting a city in half is not a Good Look

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sing hallelujah
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HenryKrinkle posted:

getfiscal posted:

quind used to be great at coming up with creepy justifications for socialist crimes like that. remember that thread he posted about how soviet rapes of germans weren't bad because it was a form of revolutionary violence. good times.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2987002

for those who don't have archives:
http://i.imgur.com/l4KG5W9.png



look at all these pious teens getting buttmad about the rantings of an insane person

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mongosteen posted:

HenryKrinkle posted:

getfiscal posted:

quind used to be great at coming up with creepy justifications for socialist crimes like that. remember that thread he posted about how soviet rapes of germans weren't bad because it was a form of revolutionary violence. good times.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2987002

for those who don't have archives:
http://i.imgur.com/l4KG5W9.png



look at all these pious teens getting buttmad about the rantings of an insane person



*goatstein, reflecting on yelling at catholic schoolkids out his car window*

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mongosteen posted:

HenryKrinkle posted:

getfiscal posted:

quind used to be great at coming up with creepy justifications for socialist crimes like that. remember that thread he posted about how soviet rapes of germans weren't bad because it was a form of revolutionary violence. good times.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2987002

for those who don't have archives:
http://i.imgur.com/l4KG5W9.png

look at all these pious teens getting buttmad about the rantings of an insane person



#276
Poronto
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i'm finding donald's trolling (goblining) (kobolding) (vodyanoing) to be compelling and instructive as we have to think hard about all the different ways we could potentially become wrong or be seen as wrong
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its just boring out of place nonsense in a discussion about organisations

the basics of dealing with contradictions around the ex socialist bloc can be dealt with in other places since they do need to be dealt with obviously by people who do want to organize but in all honesty its not actually that complicated and i imagine most people here could do it already (though dunnot to what extent in the way you have do it with everyday people) so in the end it just seems a bit bleh
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i mean to a point isn't "unproductive" trolling just being a literal idiot especially since its not as if being a "productive" troll is ever that witty or at least not past the ego that surrounds it re: attempt to make a point

i mean imagine someone doing in actual life its just all a bit yawn
#279
Dont Mess With Sucess
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Its what people do when they dont have anything relevant or interesting to say but they want to participate anyway. Thats trolling.
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swampman posted:

Its what people do when they dont have anything relevant or interesting to say but they want to participate anyway. Thats trolling.



don't ignoranceshame