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Lykourgos posted:

haha you went to the US without going to chicago, you are dumb


What exactly does Chicago offer that you can't get in any other American city?

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Mike Nelson here.
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MadMedico posted:

Lykourgos posted:

haha you went to the US without going to chicago, you are dumb

What exactly does Chicago offer that you can't get in any other American city?

That is what Chicago offers!

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discipline posted:

jools you've never been to new york city



Neither have i but ive watched Girls and The Secret of my Success so i doubt im missing much

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it's monumental in a way that isn't conveyable through film imo

but i'm no expert, i don't even have the word aesthetics in my sig
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

I miss my girlfriend



I miss your girlfriend to

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Same as what you idiots said about chicago or new york or whatever but then its houston. Yea thaths right, i m talking about a different area of the country you dont know, an area you havent been to for more than a couple days at most. I said and it s because i thought long and hard, and i related to the Truth about it, and its True. My friend was in a hotel room by the airport and some guy killed another one outside her hotel room. Thts the kind of salt of the earth stuff youll hear about houston, texxas, and no where else.

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Mike Nelson here.
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people die outside my door every day. tens of thousands of them within a few thousand miles of me.
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houston isn't so bad. it reminds me of los angeles minus all the best parts of los angeles.
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Crow posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

I miss my girlfriend :(

I miss your girlfriend to

I was going to say this but then I thought, no, have some tact, some decorum, on this of all days, when a lover separated is at his lowest.

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Pompous Mormon symmetry. Everywhere marble: flawless, funereal (the Capitol, the organ in the Visitor Center). Yet a Los-Angeleic modernity, too- all the requisite gadgetry for a minimalist, extraterrestrial comfort. The Christ-topped dome (all the Christs here are copied from Thorwaldsen's and look like Bjorn Borg) straight out of Close Encounters: religion as special effects. In fact the whole city has the transparency and supernatural, otherworldly cleanness of a thing from outer space. A symmetrical, luminous, overpowering abstraction. At every intersection in the Tabernacle area - all marble and roses, and evangelical marketing - an electronic cuckoo-clock sigs out: such Puritan obsessiveness is astonishing in this heat, in the hear of the desert, alongside this leaden lake, its waters also hyperreal from sheer density of salt. And, beyond the lake, the Great Salt Lake Desert, where they had to invent the speed of prototype cars to cope with the absolute horizontality.... But the city itself is like a jewel, with its purity of air and its plungin urban vistas more breathtaking even than those of Los Angeles. What stunning brilliance, what modern ceracity these Mormons show, these rich banker, musicians, international genealogists, polygamists (the Empire State in New York has something of this same funereal Puritanism raised the the nth power). It is the capitalist, transexual pride of a people of mutants that gives the city its magic, equal opposite to that of Las Vegas, that great whore on the other side of the desert.
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the epicness of french hallucinations about america goes baudrillard > celine > de tocqueville > bhl
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MadMedico posted:

Lykourgos posted:

haha you went to the US without going to chicago, you are dumb

What exactly does Chicago offer that you can't get in any other American city?



uh are you even paying attention? largest single site jail, largest mental facility, busiest criminal courthouse, epic crime rate, that giant gorilla picasso thing, the government building that looks like the world's ugliest atrium on the opposite corner of the block, stone park squad car paint jobs, the least offensive american accent out there, the list of great stuff is too long to complete, sweet home chicago

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Mike Nelson here.
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chicago is great because it is a major location in "the blues brothers"
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Dont Mess With Sucess
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getfiscal posted:

chicago is great because it is a major location in "the blues brothers"

you mean that shopping mall they drive through?

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Dont Mess With Sucess
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its such an over-the-top scene, because most people would drive around
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wasted posted:

petrified forest is pretty cool



"Maybe we'll decide to get buried here."
"Well, you'd better come with me, Duke. I'm planning to be buried in the petrified forest. You know, I've been evolving a theory about that, that would interest you. It's the graveyard of the civilization that's shot from under us, the world of outmoded ideas...they're all so many dead stumps in the desert. That's where I belong. So do you, Duke. You're the last great apostle of rugged individualism."

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stegosaurus posted:

the epicness of french hallucinations about america goes baudrillard > celine > de tocqueville > bhl



Totally agree. I love this genre and the bhl book is laughable, esecially where he acts shocked that amtrak doesnt work like the tgv

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stegosaurus posted:

Crow posted:
Ironicwarcriminal posted:
I miss my girlfriend
I miss your girlfriend to
I was going to say this but then I thought, no, have some tact, some decorum, on this of all days, when a lover separated is at his lowest.



Tyvm for your empathy pal

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stegosaurus posted:

Pompous Mormon symmetry. Everywhere marble: flawless, funereal (the Capitol, the organ in the Visitor Center). Yet a Los-Angeleic modernity, too- all the requisite gadgetry for a minimalist, extraterrestrial comfort. The Christ-topped dome (all the Christs here are copied from Thorwaldsen's and look like Bjorn Borg) straight out of Close Encounters: religion as special effects. In fact the whole city has the transparency and supernatural, otherworldly cleanness of a thing from outer space. A symmetrical, luminous, overpowering abstraction. At every intersection in the Tabernacle area - all marble and roses, and evangelical marketing - an electronic cuckoo-clock sigs out: such Puritan obsessiveness is astonishing in this heat, in the hear of the desert, alongside this leaden lake, its waters also hyperreal from sheer density of salt. And, beyond the lake, the Great Salt Lake Desert, where they had to invent the speed of prototype cars to cope with the absolute horizontality.... But the city itself is like a jewel, with its purity of air and its plungin urban vistas more breathtaking even than those of Los Angeles. What stunning brilliance, what modern ceracity these Mormons show, these rich banker, musicians, international genealogists, polygamists (the Empire State in New York has something of this same funereal Puritanism raised the the nth power). It is the capitalist, transexual pride of a people of mutants that gives the city its magic, equal opposite to that of Las Vegas, that great whore on the other side of the desert.



"purity of air" lol. What is this from btw, is it baudrillard?

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Kurdt
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MadMedico posted:

Lykourgos posted:

haha you went to the US without going to chicago, you are dumb

What exactly does Chicago offer that you can't get in any other American city?


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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

stegosaurus posted:

Pompous Mormon symmetry. Everywhere marble: flawless, funereal (the Capitol, the organ in the Visitor Center). Yet a Los-Angeleic modernity, too- all the requisite gadgetry for a minimalist, extraterrestrial comfort. The Christ-topped dome (all the Christs here are copied from Thorwaldsen's and look like Bjorn Borg) straight out of Close Encounters: religion as special effects. In fact the whole city has the transparency and supernatural, otherworldly cleanness of a thing from outer space. A symmetrical, luminous, overpowering abstraction. At every intersection in the Tabernacle area - all marble and roses, and evangelical marketing - an electronic cuckoo-clock sigs out: such Puritan obsessiveness is astonishing in this heat, in the hear of the desert, alongside this leaden lake, its waters also hyperreal from sheer density of salt. And, beyond the lake, the Great Salt Lake Desert, where they had to invent the speed of prototype cars to cope with the absolute horizontality.... But the city itself is like a jewel, with its purity of air and its plungin urban vistas more breathtaking even than those of Los Angeles. What stunning brilliance, what modern ceracity these Mormons show, these rich banker, musicians, international genealogists, polygamists (the Empire State in New York has something of this same funereal Puritanism raised the the nth power). It is the capitalist, transexual pride of a people of mutants that gives the city its magic, equal opposite to that of Las Vegas, that great whore on the other side of the desert.

"purity of air" lol. What is this from btw, is it baudrillard?

yeah its baudrillard. I guess he was here in the summer or something. in 1980

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Did you drive through the Navajo Reservation iwc? If you didn't you missed out, what with your interest in the "real America" and all
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Lykourgos posted:

MadMedico posted:

Lykourgos posted:

haha you went to the US without going to chicago, you are dumb

What exactly does Chicago offer that you can't get in any other American city?

uh are you even paying attention? largest single site jail, largest mental facility, busiest criminal courthouse, epic crime rate, that giant gorilla picasso thing, the government building that looks like the world's ugliest atrium on the opposite corner of the block, stone park squad car paint jobs, the least offensive american accent out there, the list of great stuff is too long to complete, sweet home chicago


is where my homies at

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Squalid posted:

Did you drive through the Navajo Reservation iwc? If you didn't you missed out, what with your interest in the "real America" and all

'real' isnt the same as 'actually existing' hth

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Squalid posted:

Did you drive through the Navajo Reservation iwc? If you didn't you missed out, what with your interest in the "real America" and all

'real' isnt the same as 'actually existing' hth

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Squalid posted:

Did you drive through the Navajo Reservation iwc? If you didn't you missed out, what with your interest in the "real America" and all

I think he was saying they were gonna fly everywhere. which is more convenient but in a sense deprived them of the most crucial of american experiences, getting out of a car at a shoddy rest stop after six hours of driving and discovering that you had been sitting on crumbs from a gas station sandwich

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stegosaurus posted:

the epicness of french hallucinations about america goes baudrillard > celine > de tocqueville > bhl

baudrillars america book sucks dick and pales in comparison to celine. also kafka wrote a book about america never having been there

#229
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hamsun wrote a book about america but I don't think it has been translated.
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cleanhands posted:

Squalid posted:

Did you drive through the Navajo Reservation iwc? If you didn't you missed out, what with your interest in the "real America" and all

'real' isnt the same as 'actually existing' hth



no not all I have no clue what you're trying to say

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Impper posted:

stegosaurus posted:

the epicness of french hallucinations about america goes baudrillard > celine > de tocqueville > bhl

baudrillars america book sucks dick and pales in comparison to celine. also kafka wrote a book about america never having been there

it was a French list.

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Dont Mess With Sucess
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Impper posted:

stegosaurus posted:

the epicness of french hallucinations about america goes baudrillard > celine > de tocqueville > bhl

baudrillars america book sucks dick and pales in comparison to celine. also kafka wrote a book about america never having been there

yes, i read this one a couple months ago, it is pretty bonkers. basically its a screwball comedy where the little hardworking goodhearted german immigrant boy is continually being saved from trouble by Americans, who then find some incredibly complicated reason to discontinue their charity to him and cast him out. he grows ever more hopeful and determined as he sinks lower and lower in social standing and never once thinks to disagree with his masters. really reminded me of his short story from the perspective of a dog. its unfinished too so you get absolutely no glimmer of closure or denouement

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Impper posted:

stegosaurus posted:
the epicness of french hallucinations about america goes baudrillard > celine > de tocqueville > bhl
baudrillars america book sucks dick and pales in comparison to celine. also kafka wrote a book about america never having been there



I like celines american stuff but that america is long gone. Baudrillards reflected a bit more on modernity, expansion and the West which strikes me more. Anyway ima write something up when i get home which will hopefully be baudrillard meets bill bryson as narrated by russell crowe

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Im in la now there are signs on intersections that explain to pedestrians how to cross a road lmao
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Id love to see "the real la" but it seems like each angelenos concepcion of the real la is waxing lyrical about where the most authentic taco truck is

Also 80 degrees in february is alright and the girls here are very pretty
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Squalid posted:

cleanhands posted:

Squalid posted:

Did you drive through the Navajo Reservation iwc? If you didn't you missed out, what with your interest in the "real America" and all

'real' isnt the same as 'actually existing' hth

no not all I have no clue what you're trying to say

neither do i. let that be a lesson to both of us but mostly you

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swampman posted:

Impper posted:
stegosaurus posted:
the epicness of french hallucinations about america goes baudrillard > celine > de tocqueville > bhl
baudrillars america book sucks dick and pales in comparison to celine. also kafka wrote a book about america never having been there
yes, i read this one a couple months ago, it is pretty bonkers. basically its a screwball comedy where the little hardworking goodhearted german immigrant boy is continually being saved from trouble by Americans, who then find some incredibly complicated reason to discontinue their charity to him and cast him out. he grows ever more hopeful and determined as he sinks lower and lower in social standing and never once thinks to disagree with his masters. really reminded me of his short story from the perspective of a dog. its unfinished too so you get absolutely no glimmer of closure or denouement



im reading this now and yeah it rules. hes continuously honest and hardworking, the archetypal model for immigrant success story, and he just keeps getting more and more fucked over. plus his settings are awesome, american vibrancy and excess unrestrained by any encounters with its realities.

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Impper posted:

pales in comparison to celine.


I'm sure it does

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Kurdt
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i liked the baudrillard amerikkka bookkkk
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