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no not really, varanasi is uniquely gross i think
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if india was a people's republic then they would have put a kibosh on the whole dump-the-body-in-the-ganges thing decades ago. look at china, a country free of superstitions.
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actually china has the highest population of atheists of any country in the world. check and mate.
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jools posted:

actually china has the highest population of atheists of any country in the world. check and mate.

they identify as atheists sure but scratch that surface a bit and underneath it's an entire world of ancestral spirits and buddhist guardian angels and magic potions. i, on the other hand, am guided only by right reason.

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sure but at least there its belief instilled by acceptable sources, like your parents or Ancient Texts or old men or whatever. here in the glorious west however theres been some 20% or something increase in belief in the paranormal because the history channel realised it could make more skrilla from showing ancient aliens than history
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jools posted:

sure but at least there its belief instilled by acceptable sources, like your parents or Ancient Texts or old men or whatever. here in the glorious west however theres been some 20% or something increase in belief in the paranormal because the history channel realised it could make more skrilla from showing ancient aliens than history

*nods approvingly*

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getfiscal posted:

if india was a people's republic then they would have put a kibosh on the whole dump-the-body-in-the-ganges thing decades ago. look at china, a country free of superstitions.



Superstitious are probably unavoidable, but they can also be directed? Like what jiols mentioned, or also like former socialist countries where old people feel weird about charging a stranded stranger to help fix their car. These aren't rational processes

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Crow posted:

getfiscal posted:

if india was a people's republic then they would have put a kibosh on the whole dump-the-body-in-the-ganges thing decades ago. look at china, a country free of superstitions.

Superstitious are probably unavoidable, but they can also be directed? Like what jiols mentioned, or also like former socialist countries where old people feel weird about charging a stranded stranger to help fix their car. These aren't rational processes

Yknow crow. one of Plato's ideas about how to run the perfect society is that the public needs elaborate mythology and superstition to keep them behaving correctly.

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swampman posted:

Crow posted:

getfiscal posted:

if india was a people's republic then they would have put a kibosh on the whole dump-the-body-in-the-ganges thing decades ago. look at china, a country free of superstitions.

Superstitious are probably unavoidable, but they can also be directed? Like what jiols mentioned, or also like former socialist countries where old people feel weird about charging a stranded stranger to help fix their car. These aren't rational processes

Yknow crow. one of Plato's ideas about how to run the perfect society is that the public needs elaborate mythology and superstition to keep them behaving correctly.



Yeah and its pretty clear religion is true. Just WHAT is goin on here, a sane man would wonder, or a sane woman

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If Plato were born today he'd be an Objectivist idiot scumlord most likely.
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swampman posted:

Crow posted:

getfiscal posted:

if india was a people's republic then they would have put a kibosh on the whole dump-the-body-in-the-ganges thing decades ago. look at china, a country free of superstitions.

Superstitious are probably unavoidable, but they can also be directed? Like what jiols mentioned, or also like former socialist countries where old people feel weird about charging a stranded stranger to help fix their car. These aren't rational processes

Yknow crow. one of Plato's ideas about how to run the perfect society is that the public needs elaborate mythology and superstition to keep them behaving correctly.



Two more thoughts:
1) Pobody's nerfect.

2) Another reason to praise the achievements of the North Korean people

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The_Schliski posted:

If Plato were born today he'd be an Objectivist idiot scumlord most likely.

Yes, he was very smart. But I question the parental wisdom of letting your newborn read Rand novels. Would 1 day old Plato be mature enough for the rape scenes, for instance.

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Another thing to consider is Plato has been traced as the originator of 'totalitarian thought'
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If Plato were alive today he'd probably be a Chinese sociologist about to publish Technocracy 2.0
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badiou came out with a "hypertranslation" of plato's republic, which is titled "plato's republic"... it was just translated and it hit bookstores RECENTLY. so buy it or steal it off the tubes.
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if plato were alive todya he would probably be . . . old as hell!!!! jk
#57
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mythology and superstition is fairly fucking epic
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Yes, he is the prime Statist philosopher. But OTOH. There is real doubt in the text whether they are being serious or just tricking their little fuck objects into endorsing weird and bad opinions. Because you dont get much opinions out of Socrates because of his.. method. Just one of many examples "When A Troll Goes Wrong"
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swampman posted:

Yes, he is the prime Statist philosopher. But OTOH. There is real doubt in the text whether they are being serious or just tricking their little fuck objects into endorsing weird and bad opinions. Because you dont get much opinions out of Socrates because of his.. method. Just one of many examples "When A Troll Goes Wrong"

Plato: The Ancient George Carlin

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lol at the idea of a nation who ships their fathers and mothers off to die in retirement homes getting all icky about a few corpses
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at the very least their rotting asses are not contaminating our drinking water
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the rest of indiathat isn't made up of pilgrims, mendicants, drug-addicts, and outcasts is cleaner somewhat
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If Plato were alive today, he'd be unemployed hahahaha (you know... because Greece... rofl).
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Nippon
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i dont think soap is going to fix throwing shit and corpses in your drinking water. but i appreciate the thought khamsek
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LEt the bodies hit the river
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Meursault posted:

LEt the bodies hit the river


vishnu-metal

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only a blind idiot trickster god would stick the most naturally hairy and sweaty people smack dab in the middle of earth's taint
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tpaine posted:

on the other hand, why would evolution result in the most sweat-vulnerable people acccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc



i like to think this is a clever reference to movin' out by billy joel that i don't understand

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getfiscal posted:

badiou came out with a "hypertranslation" of plato's republic, which is titled "plato's republic"... it was just translated and it hit bookstores RECENTLY. so buy it or steal it off the tubes.



so idk if you can tell much from the first few pages, but i took a quick glance and it doesn't look like it's much improved from other translations. it might be better in french and maybe the english translation degraded his efforts? but it just looks like... plato's republic

apparently he removes references to greek culture etc. great

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drwhat posted:

getfiscal posted:

badiou came out with a "hypertranslation" of plato's republic, which is titled "plato's republic"... it was just translated and it hit bookstores RECENTLY. so buy it or steal it off the tubes.

so idk if you can tell much from the first few pages, but i took a quick glance and it doesn't look like it's much improved from other translations. it might be better in french and maybe the english translation degraded his efforts? but it just looks like... plato's republic

apparently he removes references to greek culture etc. great

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well to be clear, it's not the same as other translations. it's made more modern colloquial. "a kid ran up", "this guy", "can you even still have sex with your wife". but i don't think that makes it better somehow
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then i shall wait to read it from a library.
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drwhat posted:

well to be clear, it's not the same as other translations. it's made more modern colloquial. "a kid ran up", "this guy", "can you even still have sex with your wife". but i don't think that makes it better somehow


You have not experienced Plato until you've read him in the original Klingon.

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SOCRATES - POLEMARCHUS

Tell me truly then, dost thou even lift bro?
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getfiscal posted:

then i shall wait to read it from a library.

waiyt to read dostoevskys Demons from the library too :/

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YO IF PLATO'S FIRST NAME WAS PLATO AND hIS LAST NAME WAS CHEESE MAYBE I WOULD GIVE A FUCK ABOUT SOME DEAD GAY PHILOSIPHOR. BUT RIGHT NOW I WANNA SEE SOME DEAD INDIANS SO POST MOAR PICS!