#4801

NoFreeWill posted:

i TAed for a modern architecture class and the whole time i was like 'do these guys have any conception of human beings real needs' and then he would every so often bring up stuff that made it clear they didn't. like the new disney concert hall was made out of shiny curved steel and was actually making spots on the sidewalk 120 degrees and blinding people in nearby office buildings, so they had to get some people to come out with sandpaper and rough up a few sections.

sick dude, what building was this

#4802
the walt disney concert hall in los angeles, its one of those gehry things
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#4806

littlegreenpills posted:



the royal ontario museum, ladies and gentlemen

i lived across the street & down a bit when they were building this (at bloor & spadina), and i would just walk over there at the old, impressive, solid historical building and look at the drawings and stare at the framework in disbelief and confusion

it cost an unbelievable amount of money, too, i don't remember how much, but it's mostly unusable space, but you can now go to the museum and bask in modernity

#4807

Makeshift_Swahili posted:

they should plant some kudzu and this would be cool as heck

#4808

Crow posted:



fucking hate this shit

fraudmaster general gehry is gonna build this piece of shit for the university of technology here

#4809
still the only post-modernist skyscraper with any merit

#4810
that thing is hideous
#4811
I think i want to invent skyscraper... that is good for climbing. Easily climbable to all.
#4812

innsmouthful posted:

that thing is hideous



don't be racist

#4813
i mean it's cool that they made a skyscraper that looks like an elephant, but damn
#4814
this article

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323482504578229663495014162.html

For many years, the American left has combed the past for history lessons that will aid their effort to move the United States toward European-style social democracy, if not a full-fledged socialist utopia. The most successful leftist intellectual in that enterprise was the late Howard Zinn, whose books—such as "A People's History of the United States," first published in 1980—have sold millions of copies and are still used by high schools and colleges nationwide. Zinn believed that by emphasizing the struggles of working people, women and people of color against their supposed oppressors, his work could mobilize a new generation to carry on the fight of yesterday's radical heroes.

That search for a usable past has been taken up in a new form by filmmaker Oliver Stone and historian Peter Kuznick in both their Showtime television series, "Oliver Stone's Untold History of the United States," and in the accompanying book of the same name. Mr. Kuznick, who wrote the volume and whose outlook frames the series, is frank about his mission.

He once wrote in a book of essays that he sees his role as a professor to be that of "creating a bridge between leftist and more moderate students," so that he can "try to radicalize some of the more moderate and liberal students" who accept our political system instead of working for real radical change. Those who support "liberal capitalism," he wrote, are "blind to the lessons of history."

In discussing the TV series, Mr. Stone says in the first episode that he wants to counter the view that "we were the good guys" by telling the story of America "in a way that it has never been told before." The series' treatment of the Vietnam War, for instance, is intended, according to Mr. Kuznick, to show that the U.S. had moved so far "to the dark side" that "we were the wrong side."

For these and other revelations, Messrs. Stone and Kuznick have found respectful listeners on many TV news and talk shows, from "CBS This Morning," to CNN and even on Mike Huckabee's radio program. The authors assert that no one can contest their facts about the true story that has been hidden from Americans for decades. Their spiel routinely goes unquestioned, let alone contested, by their media hosts.

The reality is that the book and TV series are little more than a synthesis of discredited leftist Cold War "revisionist" history. In many instances they parrot Soviet and communist propaganda of the 1940s and '50s, and use the same arguments and the same citations as the ones that were first crafted by the KGB for agitprop.

One of the authors' main goals is to tell Americans that the Cold War with the Soviet Union was unnecessary and avoidable: The Cold War happened only because President Roosevelt dropped the exemplary Vice President Henry A. Wallace off the ticket at the 1944 Democratic convention and replaced him with the villain of their series, Harry S. Truman.

If Wallace had assumed the presidency when FDR died, they explain, he would have recognized Stalin's just demands to have friendly nations—such as Poland—on Russia's borders, thereby carrying on FDR's wartime policy of cooperation with the Soviet Union. Instead, the authors argue, within two weeks of taking office, Truman needlessly angered the Russians, rejected attempts by Stalin to carry on an amicable relationship with America, and proceeded on a warlike path that turned the U.S. into an imperialist and dangerous national-security state.

In making the case for Wallace as a hero, Messrs. Stone and Kuznick leave out a great deal of what we know about the man who was vice president until 1945 and then, in FDR's last term, the secretary of commerce.

The authors may approve of Wallace's belief, as he articulated in a speech in the 1940s, that "fascist interests motivated largely by anti-Russian bias" were trying to "get control of our government." But the series and book do not mention what intercepted Soviet messages and records—most famously the Venona coded intercepts, and the KGB archive papers brought to the West by KGB official Alexander Vassiliev as the Soviet Union crumbled—make clear: Had Wallace become president, a number of the men to whom he intended to give cabinet and other top positions were Soviet spies or agents.

After Wallace gave a speech in September 1946 opposing Truman's tough policy toward the Soviets, the president promptly fired him. From then on, Wallace openly tried to stop the White House from blocking Stalin's expansionist policies in Eastern Europe. Wallace opposed the creation of NATO, advocated abandoning Berlin at the time of the Soviet blockade in 1948, denounced the Marshall Plan as "the martial plan," and justified the 1948 Communist coup in Czechoslovakia as a measure needed to thwart a fascist takeover.

What the "Untold History" never mentions is that in October 1945, while he was still in the cabinet, Wallace met covertly in Washington with Anatoly Gorsky, the station chief of the NKGB (a forerunner of the KGB). KGB files record that Wallace told Gorsky that he wanted the atomic-bomb secret shared with the Soviets, that Truman was being influenced by an "anti-Soviet group" that wanted the Anglo-Saxon bloc to be dominant, and that the Soviets could help Wallace's "smaller group significantly."

A member of the U.S. cabinet asking the Soviets to intervene to help his side win the internal political battle within the administration was more than indiscreet. It was the action of a willing tool of Moscow.

At least Wallace eventually admitted that he had been duped. In 1952, he publicly apologized to Americans in the Sept. 7 issue of This Week magazine, in an article titled "Where I Was Wrong." You won't hear about this in the "Untold History," but Wallace wrote that "before 1949 I thought Russia really wanted and needed peace. After 1949 I became more and more disgusted with the Soviet methods and finally became convinced that the Politburo wanted the Cold War continued even at the peril of accidentally provoking a hot war."

The Wallace article continued: "As I look back over the past 10 years I now feel that my greatest mistake was in not denouncing the Communist takeover of Czechoslovakia in February of 1948." His analysis, he said, "failed to take into account the ruthless nature of Russian-trained Communists whose sole objective was to make Czechoslovakia subservient to Moscow."

It took time and perhaps bitter experience, but Henry Wallace finally accepted the facts before him—that Soviet policy was not the benign and peacemaking force he once believed it to be. Would that Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick were so open to the truth.

Mr. Radosh is a columnist for PJ Media and an adjunct fellow at the Hudson Institute. He is the co-author of "Spain Betrayed: The Soviet Union in the Spanish Civil War" (Yale University Press, 2001).
#4815
ayyo its ur boi z-dog wit sum mo hot flava http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/16/west-crisis-democracy-finance-spirit-dictators
#4816
http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/helen-rittelmeyer/2013/01/16/arrested-development-is-the-brothers-karamazov/
#4817

cleanhands posted:

ayyo its ur boi z-dog wit sum mo hot flava http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/16/west-crisis-democracy-finance-spirit-dictators



trot tears

#4818
finally reading gogol

#4819
this sentence:

>Capitalism is an observed theory of real markets, it is to economics as evolution is to biology.
#4820
im trying to bye some freakeing bataille and raoul vaniegem but ebay is fucked i mean fucked up. KINCH THE MAN SUCIIDED BY EBAY AND ITS FUCKING INEPT TECHNOCRAT CHILD
#4821
louis althussers philosophy of the encounter
#4822
louis althussers marriage counseling
#4823
louis althussers philosophy of the missed connection
#4824

stegosaurus posted:

louis althussers philosophy of the encounter


good bok m8

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#4826
i just finished reading althusser on ideology & the state, it has some really interesting internal tensions & deviations from the marxian theory in the german ideology, especially w/ the psychoanalytic metaphor. i might maek thrade.

a friend insisted i read godel escher bach so im givin it a try now, its making me feel kinda dumb lol because i can't do nonverbal reasoning
#4827
godel escher bach is a pile of trite and boring bullshit lmao

e: ken please keep in mind as you read that GEB basically inspired an entire generation of annoying ted talk watching burgerapp building bores, including the xkcd guy

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#4828
yeah my friend kept on going on about how marvellous and inventive his prose was but i don't rly rate it, the dialogues are kinda embarrassing (i was just looking at a picture by escher, my favourite artist! i have all his pictures! i'm a fuckshit!) and the chapters are all like 'here, have fun 'playing' with strings and theorems and shit.' i think i was recommended it because i was tellin this dude about a thousand plateaus but geb is kinda like how deleuze would write if he'd had brain damage

also the guy seems to be arguing that meaning is somehow inherent rather than socially constructed. lol wtf
#4829
you will get the entire useful essence of GEB without any of the obfustacatory wide eyed flim flam by reading a good introductory textbook on computability theory, and it'll probably be more interesting
#4830
godel escher bach was the boringest thing i tried to read probably
#4831

Impper posted:

the boringest thing i tried to read

i wanna make a thread for this question but all the replies would be "your posts" so it would not work

#4832

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

fraudmaster general gehry is gonna build this piece of shit for the university of technology here



#4833
yah there are a lot of bad posters here
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idk
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thirdplace posted:

Impper posted:

the boringest thing i tried to read

i wanna make a thread for this question but all the replies would be "your posts" so it would not work



Cylconepieda

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deadken posted:

yeah my friend kept on going on about how marvellous and inventive his prose was but i don't rly rate it, the dialogues are kinda embarrassing (i was just looking at a picture by escher, my favourite artist! i have all his pictures! i'm a fuckshit!) and the chapters are all like 'here, have fun 'playing' with strings and theorems and shit.' i think i was recommended it because i was tellin this dude about a thousand plateaus but geb is kinda like how deleuze would write if he'd had brain damage

also the guy seems to be arguing that meaning is somehow inherent rather than socially constructed. lol wtf



lol i never considered that geb is a fisher price version of deleuze but yes totally. hundreds of thousands of nerds deathly afraid of anything that doesn't say "math" or "science" or "monty python" on the cover swear by its deep mind-broadening synthesis of art and mathematics & some of them convinced me to read it when i was in first-year space science and shortly thereafter i realized i never wanted to ever talk to anyone else in science ever again. coincidence??/

#4840
downvoted by b&w. cyclonopedia continues to ruin my life.