Dear Christ the video of this is much better!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJmmnMkuEM&feature=share
In a note responding to an earlier post from The Awl detailing the various media organization associations of 26 reporters arrested during the Occupy Wall Street protests, Bloomberg spokesperson Stu Loeser tried to dismiss any accusations that the arrests were improper by noting that only five of the reporters arrested had valid NYPD press credentials. He then went on to Tweet at ObserverNews Editor Megan McCarthy:@megan, you don’t have a press pass; that’s your option. But why should some random NYPD take your word that you’re press?
Aside from the question of whether credentialing by law enforcement is appropriate in the first place (inasmuch as it can potentially conflict with first amendment protections), the NYPD’s processes for acquiring credentials are, to put it nicely, Kafkaesque. To put it bluntly: they’re ridiculous.
Visit the “press eligibility” page of New York Finest and you’ll find the following requirements:
First-time applicants should contact the Press Credentials office (above) before completing their application.
Applicants must be a member of the media who covers, in person, emergency, spot or breaking news events and/or public events of a non-emergency nature, where police, fire lines or other restrictions, limitations, or barriers established by the City of New York have been set up for security or crowd control purposes, within the City of New York; or covers, in person, events sponsored by the City of New York which are open to members of the press.
Applicants also must submit one or more articles, commentaries, books, photographs, videos, films or audios published or broadcast within the twenty–four (24) months immediately preceding the Press Card application, sufficient to show that the applicant covered in person six (6) or more events occurring on separate days.
According to the last paragraph, you have to demonstrate coverage as an uncredentialed reporter in order to get credentialed. So the only way to comply with the law is to have previously broken the law repeatedly.
discipline posted:
welcome to the watering hole, you come to wet your whistle?
Crow posted:*nightmare dictatorship pulls up*
http://photos.oregonlive.com/photo-essay/2011/11/pepper_spray_came_out_during_t.html
huthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthuthut
goopstein posted:
why do cops need that much armor lmao. that's more armor than we give to dudes committing war crimes in the asshole of fallujah
"because ny is a port and if the dealers realize that their clients dont want weed but ak47s it wont take long " ~thinking like a cop
By overreacting so much, the cops are not only radicalizing the protesters but shattering many of the remaining illusions observers have about America being a free society. The Occupy movement couldn't have asked for more picture perfect antagonist than the militarized US police forces.
i heard an egyptian activist talk today, really inspirational stuff happening there despite shit like this ^^ tonite
HenryKrinkle posted:
It's a proven fact that arresting people in the most peaceful means possible is the easiest way to end protest movements. It's called "killing them with kindness."
By overreacting so much, the cops are not only radicalizing the protesters but shattering many of the remaining illusions observers have about America being a free society. The Occupy movement couldn't have asked for more picture perfect antagonist than the militarized US police forces.
The false praise counter would have worked much better and ended up with much less damage to capital. But at this late in the game it is a dying animal lashing out furiously at the vultures that gather to consume it.
NounsareVerbs posted:HenryKrinkle posted:
It's a proven fact that arresting people in the most peaceful means possible is the easiest way to end protest movements. It's called "killing them with kindness."
By overreacting so much, the cops are not only radicalizing the protesters but shattering many of the remaining illusions observers have about America being a free society. The Occupy movement couldn't have asked for more picture perfect antagonist than the militarized US police forces.The false praise counter would have worked much better and ended up with much less damage to capital. But at this late in the game it is a dying animal lashing out furiously at the vultures that gather to consume it.
Democrats did try that
i can't decide if it's b/c they're nerds, because they spent their formative years under post-columbine zero-tolerance policies, or if that's just what a baby rightist looks like and after a decade they'll come out of their shells and stop pretending they disagree with the predicted actions on any level
HenryKrinkle posted:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=1434366
thank you i will enjoy reading this with my non-banned archives-enabled SA account
aerdil posted:HenryKrinkle posted:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=1434366thank you i will enjoy reading this with my non-banned archives-enabled SA account
I know this is an old video, but I just saw it on the local FreeSpeachNow.Org.Protect.PoliceState.CorpDeath.NOW public access television.
Shows some hippies (some naked) who are trying to get their non-violent protest on and then suddenly get attacked by the evil Corpo-Police State who use guns and rockets and tanks.
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It shows some dumb hippies, rush into an office building in some downtown area. Throw down a 30lb stump, spread bark dust all over the lobby, and then lock their arms together inside of special steel tubes that make it impossible to separate them.
It is obvious to me the sole purpose of these video is to create a situation that the cops can not forcefully remove the protesters. I mean they use some cool metal pipes that allow them to lock arms but are impossible to cut without hurting the people. The only choices are to A) Let them sit and scream in a private building for days on end, or ‘convince’ them to let go on their own.
When the cops show up, they start screaming and taunting them. After 30 MINUTES of police asking them nicely to release hands. The cops come up one at a time. The take a little dab of pepper spray on a q-tip and touch it to one persons eyelid. This causes some minor discomfort and shows them what is coming. They then tell the person that if they do not release they will get a full dose in the face.
Of course the protesters start screaming that this is torture, and chemical attack against civilians and that the police are killing them. They tell the police to go away blah blah. My favorite line is one girl asked a cop, would you do this to your own daughter? And the cop responds, no, my daughter is not an idiot. He then calmly shoots her in the face with pepper spray (this was after letting her sit for 30 seconds with the small dab in her eye.)
The entire video shows a calm, measured police response that treats each idiot with as much respect as possible. The only part that has any indication of ‘force’ is when this one fat chick won’t let go no matter what. So the cops get her face down on the ground and basically sit on her back to compress her chest so she can’t breathe. She panics and lets go.
All in all, it has some hot chicks and cool cops beating stupid protesters. I suggest finding it at your local smelly hippy rental store and watching it.
discipline posted:
“Capture the Babe” mode is pretty much like any other “capture the flag” mode, “with one small touch: the “Babe” will sometimes freak out while you’re carrying her (somewhat understandable we’d say) at which point you have to hit a button to gently give her a reassuring slap.”
Jesto posted:
The police are not robots. They are not hard-wired to commit violence against people. They are not helpless to be anything but assholes following orders from other assholes. They are living, breathing, thinking, rational actors capable of making their own decisions in life.
In other words, they should pull themselves up by their own moral bootstraps, correct?
discipline posted:
yeah I'd hate to think what he says he's gonna do to her if she acts like an idiot ahaha... SANDY! The OTher Day I was working and sprayed this girl your age in the face with chemical weapons (this was after letting her sit for 30 seconds with the small dab in her eye.) because she was being an IDIOT! YOU'RE NOT AN IDIOT... ARE YOU??? COZ YOU'RE ACTING LIKE ONE RIGHT NOW SANDY!!!!!
My father was highly placed in the civil service. He was
responsible for a very large rural area. As soon as the troubles
started, he threw himself into the Algerian manhunt with
frenzied rage. Sometimes it happened that he would eat
nothing at all, and not even sleep, he was in such a state of
excitement over putting down the rebellion. I saw without
being able to do anything about it the slow metamorphosis of
my father. Finally, I decided not to go to see him any more
and to stay in town. The fact was that every time I went
home I spent entire nights awake, for screams used to rise
up to my room from down below; in the cellar and in the
unused rooms of the house Algerians were being tortured so
as to obtain information. You have no idea how terrible it
is to hear screaming all night like that. Sometimes I used to
wonder how it was that a human being was able to bear hear
ing those screams of pain—quite apart from the actual tor
ture. And so it went on. Finally, I didn't ever go home. The
rare times that my father came to see me in town I wasn't
able to look him in the face without being terribly frightened
and embarrassed. I found it increasingly difficult to force my
self to kiss him.
For you must understand that I had lived a long time in the
village. I knew almost all the families that lived there. The
Algerian boys of my age and I had played together when we
were small. Every time I went home my father told me that
fresh people had been arrested. In the end I didn't dare walk
in the street any more, I was so sure of meeting hatred every
where. In my heart I knew that those Algerians were right.
