#4481
zyzz was the best thing to come out of australia
#4482
#4483

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

statickinetics posted:
im reading projectiles for the people, history of the RAF. it owns.


until i realized you were talking about the red army faction and not the royal air force that title was weirding me out




hahahahahahahaahahha

#4484
itsa Chirst Chirsty Christmas!

#4485
thx bruh. im pretty uneducated about anthropology & such things. i actually plan on visiting southern mexico and central america next fall, should be cool
#4486

jeffery posted:

itsa Chirst Chirsty Christmas!

#4487
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#4488

Crow posted:

downloading thbis *does a red salute lol*


what really impresses me is the clarity and accuracy of their theoretical writing. the polemics are some of the best ive ever read too

#4489

littlegreenpills posted:

who was the idiot who wrote transparent lies about everyone including family members banging each other in the trobriand islands



i dunno, i don't really know much about anthropology as a field. malinowski wrote "the sexual life of savages" and its on trobriand sexual whatever, but I don't remember anything particularly libidinally noteworthy leaping out at me (like for there's incest, but not really ridiculous incest in the context of a field ethnography, at least as I half remember). maybe there's a different book you're thinking of?

or maybe you just GOT WEAK PIPE GAME BRO

STEP YO FUK GAME UP

#4490

animedad posted:

thx bruh. im pretty uneducated about anthropology & such things. i actually plan on visiting southern mexico and central america next fall, should be cool



that's cool, are you doing the tourist-ezln thing?

#4491

statickinetics posted:

im reading projectiles for the people, history of the RAF. it owns.

high fünf

#4492
i had an idea to write a post about jimmy savile and jerry sandusky and their implications for western culture but, lets be honest, i wont actually do it
#4493

cleanhands posted:

i had an idea to write a post about jimmy savile and jerry sandusky and their implications for western culture but, lets be honest, i wont actually do it



is the gist of it that western culture is so frayed and insecure they have to tear down their heroes for a few indiscretions?

#4494
the gist is that savile wasnt special in his tastes for underage girls, access to whom was a huge part of the overall compensation package for everyone involved in rock n roll. to be clear, everyone who was anyone in the music industry at the time was either fucking little girls or trying to.

the significance of his posthumous reassessment is the precedent it sets. while i guess it would be important to some people to clarify that a lot of children wanted to fuck mick jagger while few of them wanted to fuck savile, the principle stands that savile was way, way down the food chain, sexually and culturally. we can stand to throw savile's effigy on the pyre because everyone was already happy to admit they thought he was a bit of a weirdo. but what do we do about the rest of our heroes? what do we do with our cherished collective memories of the rolling stones, or the beatles, or the who, or anyone else who made a name in swinging london? it's long been tacitly accepted that these men in their twenties had regular sex with girls as young as 13 as a matter of course, almost as of right, and nobody mentioned it and no tales were told. things were different then, you know?

except, it became clear as soon as savile's good name hit the pavement outside television centre, that the (now) women involved don't agree that things were different. the bottle thus rubbed, we await the genie, with terrible fury and inescapable wrath, with the power to dispel the myths upon which the british cultural establishment relies for its relevancy and legitimacy in a world which has otherwise moved on (bar the embarrassing reactionary binge that was 'britpop' in the early 90s). a cynical conspiracy theorist might suppose it was more than good fortune that the savile scandal stayed quiet until the London Olympics was wound up, reliant as it was on stretching 1960s musical goodwill to cover all aspects of the image we projected worldwide, our statement that we're still here and we still matter.

had this information come out 6 months earlier, it would have carried a different meaning: people of the world, behold, all these men fucked kids and didn't think anything was wrong, and neither do we. maybe the great rock n roll swindle will stay under wraps for good, but if it does it's because it needs to. britain needs to be Great, and must be kept that way by any means necessary. if that means knowingly lionising child rapists (as opposed to the status quo ante, which in theory was 'unknowingly' doing so) then that is just what we'll have to do. but if savile's memory isn't safe, as well protected as he was, then it'll be interesting to find out who is.

i was gonna add some stuff about sandusky but i havent followed that as much and would need to do actual reading but im outta time. that was longer than i planned, pretend i posted it on my blog and filled it full of lacanian gobbledegook i guess
#4495

cleanhands posted:

the gist is that savile wasnt special in his tastes for underage girls, access to whom was a huge part of the overall compensation package for everyone involved in rock n roll. to be clear, everyone who was anyone in the music industry at the time was either fucking little girls or trying to.

the significance of his posthumous reassessment is the precedent it sets. while i guess it would be important to some people to clarify that a lot of children wanted to fuck mick jagger while few of them wanted to fuck savile, the principle stands that savile was way, way down the food chain, sexually and culturally. we can stand to throw savile's effigy on the pyre because everyone was already happy to admit they thought he was a bit of a weirdo. but what do we do about the rest of our heroes? what do we do with our cherished collective memories of the rolling stones, or the beatles, or the who, or anyone else who made a name in swinging london? it's long been tacitly accepted that these men in their twenties had regular sex with girls as young as 13 as a matter of course, almost as of right, and nobody mentioned it and no tales were told. things were different then, you know?

except, it became clear as soon as savile's good name hit the pavement outside television centre, that the (now) women involved don't agree that things were different. the bottle thus rubbed, we await the genie, with terrible fury and inescapable wrath, with the power to dispel the myths upon which the british cultural establishment relies for its relevancy and legitimacy in a world which has otherwise moved on (bar the embarrassing reactionary binge that was 'britpop' in the early 90s). a cynical conspiracy theorist might suppose it was more than good fortune that the savile scandal stayed quiet until the London Olympics was wound up, reliant as it was on stretching 1960s musical goodwill to cover all aspects of the image we projected worldwide, our statement that we're still here and we still matter.

had this information come out 6 months earlier, it would have carried a different meaning: people of the world, behold, all these men fucked kids and didn't think anything was wrong, and neither do we. maybe the great rock n roll swindle will stay under wraps for good, but if it does it's because it needs to. britain needs to be Great, and must be kept that way by any means necessary. if that means knowingly lionising child rapists (as opposed to the status quo ante, which in theory was 'unknowingly' doing so) then that is just what we'll have to do. but if savile's memory isn't safe, as well protected as he was, then it'll be interesting to find out who is.

i was gonna add some stuff about sandusky but i havent followed that as much and would need to do actual reading but im outta time. that was longer than i planned, pretend i posted it on my blog and filled it full of lacanian gobbledegook i guess



PLEASE expand and post for frontpage please

#4496
Good shit.
#4497
yes cleanhands please develop that, i'll even refrain from drawing any compassions with certain prophets until you're done.
#4498
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#4499
i just watched the ultra zionist episode of louis theroux, good lord the australian guy moving jewish families into Silwan is obnoxious

anyway, it's finally put me in the mood to start reading hollow land, it's cool so far

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#4500
yeah as well as adding the sandusky stuff i was gonna throw in a quick recap of what britpop was all about because even today i think its interesting
#4501
well thats the thing people have taken issue with on twitter actually, the britpop part lol. so develop it and post a thread!!!!
#4502
post that twitter dude
#4503
90s britpop was reactionary compared to what? the kid-fucking of the swinging sixties?
#4504
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#4505
post the twitter obama
#4506

cleanhands posted:

post that twitter dude



https://twitter.com/joolsd/status/280625698199179264

#4507
oh cool, its pretty clear that blur's modern life trilogy was anti-materialist (even if its so nostalgic that people assume it's conservative without hearing the lyrics) and different class is kind of explicitly a counterblast to the whole britpop 'thing' which was nearing its peak, ive spent too much time on this already (i gots ta study! and do the hoovering!) but like i say its interesting
#4508
#4509
there was some new big deal documentary on 90s britpop I saw recently and it was lol watching most bands come to the crushing realization that thatcher's legacy proved out
#4510
i used to be really embarrassed about listening to pulp because i thought everyone thought they were terrible.
#4511
they are
#4512

EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

they are

dirty room, confused mind

#4513
#4514

MadMedico posted:



this is great if u haven't seen it

http://vimeo.com/29589320

#4515
il ike that one song by pulp about the stuck up bitch
#4516

gyrofry posted:

il ike that one song by pulp about the stuck up bitch



That song was the height of boozy misogynistic northern laddism covered up with lame social commentary

#4517
Really though, all british music is stained by the blood of imperialism, no wonder ian Curtis hanged himself
#4518
the entirety of british music has only ever produced three good songs





#4519
#4520
anyone who wants a gift subscription to the american conservative magazine please pm me an address. I'm getting one for my dad and you can't get just one gift subscription lol. it makes you pick two people