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Kurdt
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- Ousted arch-revisionist Khruschev and adopted a "neutral" policy toward Stalin

- Promoted a strong program of aid for proletarian internationalism against CIA-backed reactionary movements worldwide, including Vietnam, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Angola, Ethiopia, Palestine, Yemen, and many more

- Unprecedented egalitarianism - by the end of the Brezhnev era, blue-collar workers had higher wages than professional workers in the Soviet Union

thanks in advance for your thoughts on this matter
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how can i reconsider something i've never considered before
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Consider The Communist, a book of essays by David "Foster" Wallace
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Mike Nelson here.
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what do you think about the czech invasion?
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Kurdt
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the invasion of czechoslovakia by liberal capitalist subversives was a very close brush with disaster, which was thankfully nipped in the bud by swift and decisive action to uphold the unity / prevent the fragmentation of the warsaw pact
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who are your all time favourite invaders of Afghanistan? mine's probably

1. Alexander
2. Brezhnev
3. George W Bush
4. Queen Victoria
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Mike Nelson here.
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mods change gyrofry's name to Alexander Dubstep
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getfiscal posted:

mods change gyrofry's name to Alexander Dubstep


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people hate on brezhnev because he did nothing while the bureacracy goatfucked, geuss he was better than traitor krushnev tho
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his daughter gets paid to sit next to a murderer and drink vodka and ambien cocktails on air
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meet me in st louis
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breshnev didn't die. he's been in stasis since 1978.
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mustang19 posted:

people hate on brezhnev because he did nothing while the bureacracy goatfucked, geuss he was better than traitor krushnev tho


counterpoint: he did a lot of things such as making the USSR into a military superpower and supporting successful revolutionary movements around the world. The rhetoric about 'stagnation' is really just US cold war psyop rah rah capitalism propaganda aimed at shaking up a system that was working

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gyrofry posted:

mustang19 posted:

people hate on brezhnev because he did nothing while the bureacracy goatfucked, geuss he was better than traitor krushnev tho

counterpoint: he did a lot of things such as making the USSR into a military superpower and supporting successful revolutionary movements around the world. The rhetoric about 'stagnation' is really just US cold war psyop rah rah capitalism propaganda aimed at shaking up a system that was working



counterpoint: the ussr was already a superpower and he failed to invade western europe despite overwhelming conventional and nuclear superiority

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counterpoint: czechoslovakia is kind of westernish
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mustang19 posted:

gyrofry posted:

mustang19 posted:

people hate on brezhnev because he did nothing while the bureacracy goatfucked, geuss he was better than traitor krushnev tho

counterpoint: he did a lot of things such as making the USSR into a military superpower and supporting successful revolutionary movements around the world. The rhetoric about 'stagnation' is really just US cold war psyop rah rah capitalism propaganda aimed at shaking up a system that was working

counterpoint: the ussr was already a superpower and he failed to invade western europe despite overwhelming conventional and nuclear superiority



counterpoint: that'd be the most idiotic, incorrect thing a Marxist or human being ever did or could do mlyp

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counterpoint:
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counterpoint: czechoslovakia is kind of westernish



argument conceded

prikryl posted:

mustang19 posted:

gyrofry posted:

mustang19 posted:

people hate on brezhnev because he did nothing while the bureacracy goatfucked, geuss he was better than traitor krushnev tho

counterpoint: he did a lot of things such as making the USSR into a military superpower and supporting successful revolutionary movements around the world. The rhetoric about 'stagnation' is really just US cold war psyop rah rah capitalism propaganda aimed at shaking up a system that was working

counterpoint: the ussr was already a superpower and he failed to invade western europe despite overwhelming conventional and nuclear superiority

counterpoint: that'd be the most idiotic, incorrect thing a Marxist or human being ever did or could do mlyp



counterpoint: marxist and human being are not separate categories

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mustang19 posted:

counterpoint: czechoslovakia is kind of westernish

argument conceded

prikryl posted:

mustang19 posted:

gyrofry posted:

mustang19 posted:

people hate on brezhnev because he did nothing while the bureacracy goatfucked, geuss he was better than traitor krushnev tho

counterpoint: he did a lot of things such as making the USSR into a military superpower and supporting successful revolutionary movements around the world. The rhetoric about 'stagnation' is really just US cold war psyop rah rah capitalism propaganda aimed at shaking up a system that was working

counterpoint: the ussr was already a superpower and he failed to invade western europe despite overwhelming conventional and nuclear superiority

counterpoint: that'd be the most idiotic, incorrect thing a Marxist or human being ever did or could do mlyp



counterpoint: marxist and human being are not separate categories



counterpoint: that wasn't the crux of the argument and I never claimed that. pee pee doo doo

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meet me in st louis
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tpaine posted:

Counterpoint: Reality.



Counterpoint: Reality.

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perhaps the truth is somewhere in the middle
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o wait i was thinking of brzezinski nvm
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i am going to ban all of u who posted in this thread. permaban.
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Gyrofry is giving us ALL a LOT to think about and i am NOT kidding.
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bump
http://rt.com/politics/brezhnev-stalin-gorbachev-soviet-638/
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EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

i am going to ban all of u who posted in this thread. permaban.


memories of the oppressive regime...

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gyrofry posted:

bump
http://rt.com/politics/brezhnev-stalin-gorbachev-soviet-638/

Harsh politicians are always perceived better than liberal ones, Grazhdankin said: “Freedom brings uncertainty, while people prefer certainty and clear perspectives… Rights and freedoms are too abstract, and the majority of people don’t need them. First of all, people appreciate the right to social guarantees and labor.”