and that doesn't mean splits and left wing disunity is foolish either, the most world changing left wing revolutions are the result of ideological splits and party purges. we need to talk more about D&D and all of the failed people who post in it.
babyhueypnewton posted:ruining relationships over politics,
Speak for yourself, i was defriended by Chocolate America
babyhueypnewton posted:by the way SA/LF politics and the splintering of LF into various groups o0f crazy people is the most important topic we can talk about since it mirrors the real life struggles, splits, and degeneration of left groups irl. except we all got to learn these lessons without wasting years of our lives on misguided activism, ruining relationships over politics, and getting arrested.
and that doesn't mean splits and left wing disunity is foolish either, the most world changing left wing revolutions are the result of ideological splits and party purges. we need to talk more about D&D and all of the failed people who post in it.
what is the deal with duck monster
gyrofry posted:babyhueypnewton posted:
by the way SA/LF politics and the splintering of LF into various groups o0f crazy people is the most important topic we can talk about since it mirrors the real life struggles, splits, and degeneration of left groups irl. except we all got to learn these lessons without wasting years of our lives on misguided activism, ruining relationships over politics, and getting arrested.
and that doesn't mean splits and left wing disunity is foolish either, the most world changing left wing revolutions are the result of ideological splits and party purges. we need to talk more about D&D and all of the failed people who post in it.
what is the deal with duck monster
I found out recently he’s South African but lives in Perth now (along with half of bloody Jo’burg)
The settler doth protest too much I think
gyrofry posted:babyhueypnewton posted:by the way SA/LF politics and the splintering of LF into various groups o0f crazy people is the most important topic we can talk about since it mirrors the real life struggles, splits, and degeneration of left groups irl. except we all got to learn these lessons without wasting years of our lives on misguided activism, ruining relationships over politics, and getting arrested.
and that doesn't mean splits and left wing disunity is foolish either, the most world changing left wing revolutions are the result of ideological splits and party purges. we need to talk more about D&D and all of the failed people who post in it.what is the deal with duck monster
I like to think Duck Moster is when an activist becomes completely burned out, especially someone who is involved in anti-fascism which is utterly pointless. guess it's tough to be a street anarchist living in a squat when you're hitting 40.
thats me being generous, its far more likely he's just a dumb liberal who seemed radical on SA in 2004 but now just looks foolish. there are very few anarchists I have respect for and he is not one of them.
Ironicwarcriminal posted:gyrofry posted:babyhueypnewton posted:
by the way SA/LF politics and the splintering of LF into various groups o0f crazy people is the most important topic we can talk about since it mirrors the real life struggles, splits, and degeneration of left groups irl. except we all got to learn these lessons without wasting years of our lives on misguided activism, ruining relationships over politics, and getting arrested.
and that doesn't mean splits and left wing disunity is foolish either, the most world changing left wing revolutions are the result of ideological splits and party purges. we need to talk more about D&D and all of the failed people who post in it.
what is the deal with duck monsterI found out recently he’s South African but lives in Perth now (along with half of bloody Jo’burg)
The settler doth protest too much I think
lol
Hardcore Sax used to make the same thread every day in LF about the mentality of revolutionaries which was not very interesting, but I do think it's worth thinking about what happens when a revolutionary gets burned out or loses his way and becomes consumed with hopelessness and guilt and how we can prevent this.
Doesn't mean I'm advocating for taking the easy way out, Epicurus was the first one to say that correct philosophy is a source of joy and cheerfulness in the face of great pain and socialism has always been part of that tradition. Not to speak of the emptiness and mental illness that results from life under late capitalism, which is either filled by pop culture, therapy, or self-delusion about ethical capitalism.
Goethestein posted:honestly lowtax was right to purge lf, it was becoming dangerously overwhelmed with tumblr/wddp elements
i still feel that the halycon days of the imppers near the end had that infestation under control however
babyhueypnewton posted:I remember Chomsky said something to effect of "activism is really hard and takes a lot of sacrifice." Pretty interesting coming from a guy who's made his whole career in activism, but I guess it's sorta true. Marx was basically a bum, and most famous revolutionaries have at one time lived in exile/lived in jail/lived in the woods on squirrels. Stalin could have easily gone the way of David Gilbert for the Tiflis Bank robbery and Hoxha could have easily gone the way of Gramsci if the Italians had been more competent in Albania.
Hardcore Sax used to make the same thread every day in LF about the mentality of revolutionaries which was not very interesting, but I do think it's worth thinking about what happens when a revolutionary gets burned out or loses his way and becomes consumed with hopelessness and guilt and how we can prevent this.
Doesn't mean I'm advocating for taking the easy way out, Epicurus was the first one to say that correct philosophy is a source of joy and cheerfulness in the face of great pain and socialism has always been part of that tradition. Not to speak of the emptiness and mental illness that results from life under late capitalism, which is either filled by pop culture, therapy, or self-delusion about ethical capitalism.
the second half of my kobe book is about this specifically. i guess i don't really advance anything too interesting in the book, except to maybe think a little bit about the post-hopelessness nihilism and its dangers, or whatever
which means im always back where i started
and it makes me wonder, ooooh oh oh.
babyhueypnewton posted:except we all got to learn these lessons without wasting years of our lives on misguided activism, ruining relationships over politics, and getting arrested.
so glad you found a way to view your complete passiveness as actually beneficial and desirable. so glad you didn't waste time on engaging in 'misguided activism' but instead took full advantage of it by posting in zany politics comedy forums. so glad you unveiled the face of alleged internet leftist instead of digging water ways for third worlders like some of those other laughable goons did.
aerdil posted:the sports forum on SA is pretty awesome: the mods repeatedly proclaim from the rooftops these idiotic comments that the rest of the posters, like the good little lemmings they are, repeat back like sycophantic creeps. and then the moment anyone with anything original to say dares to step into the arena with a modicum of disagreement they are immediately mobbed by the mod's little crew of yes-men. it basically turns into a continual circle-jerk without end merely for the sake of ego-stroking. likely the same sort of thing occurs in d&d as a political forum, geeks are the fucking same wherever you look.
well done goon sire
aerdil posted:the sports forum on SA is pretty awesome: the mods repeatedly proclaim from the rooftops these idiotic comments that the rest of the posters, like the good little lemmings they are, repeat back like sycophantic creeps. and then the moment anyone with anything original to say dares to step into the arena with a modicum of disagreement they are immediately mobbed by the mod's little crew of yes-men. it basically turns into a continual circle-jerk without end merely for the sake of ego-stroking. likely the same sort of thing occurs in d&d as a political forum, geeks are the fucking same wherever you look.
political journalism and sports journalism are almost identical thematically
aerdil posted:the sports forum on SA is pretty awesome: the mods repeatedly proclaim from the rooftops these idiotic comments that the rest of the posters, like the good little lemmings they are, repeat back like sycophantic creeps. and then the moment anyone with anything original to say dares to step into the arena with a modicum of disagreement they are immediately mobbed by the mod's little crew of yes-men. it basically turns into a continual circle-jerk without end merely for the sake of ego-stroking. likely the same sort of thing occurs in d&d as a political forum, geeks are the fucking same wherever you look.
lol
Seattle Post Intelligencer - 14 minutes ago
MIDLAND, Texas (AP) — A joyful celebration turned to chaos as a train, its horn blaring, barreled into a float laden with military veterans and their spouses on their way to a banquet to honor the returning war heroes.
The float took the full force of the train at a railroad crossing in Midland. Some managed to jump clear as the train bore down on the float decorated with American flags. Horrified spectators could only watch as the carnage unfolded.
damn. damn. what a chaotic, nightmarish scene lol.
Reform, Lamar! Reform!
tentativelurkeraccount posted:not even our trains are safe
this forum is so fucking trainsphobic, no wonder price of dicks doesnt post here