#4121
we can improve man... we have the ideology!
#4122
I am still very conflicted as to how malleable homo sapiens actually are
#4123

aerdil posted:

just googled my alias and apparently i'm a character in skyrim fanfiction

"There are rumours your area has become sanctuary to criminals Aerdil."

Ah, Aerdil. The woman stood tall for her age, straight, rigid and proud in the face of the threat. Rumours circled that she had been quite a catch in her youth, fuelled by adrenaline and a hunger for lust. Now the creases in her skin only served to add weight to her presence, what she had lost in youth she had gained in wisdom and outright demanded in respect. Thick grey tendrils had been tamed into a plait that hung low past her waist and as the crisp clear voice of Aerdil rang out into the trees, Tai could not help but grin. Now THAT was a woman who could hold her own. Sneaking a glance to her right she noticed the same pride written over Saylens lips.

lol

#4124
welp

#4125
http://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Militants-Pocket-Communism-Badiou/dp/1844679861/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_z ?
#4126

getfiscal posted:

welp


haha, "Let's Get Fiscal"

I'm no fan of Ryan's politics--he's a bit extreme for my tastes--but you can't deny that's clever!

#4127

stegosaurus posted:

http://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Militants-Pocket-Communism-Badiou/dp/1844679861/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_z?

that's.. coming out on my birthday. Heello fbi

#4128

getfiscal posted:

i read a bit by chantal mouffe yesterday and i think i finally am starting to get what my intuition about planning is (and related issues about althusser and her). basically its connected to rationalism. like planning is this idea that you can bring unity to society by rationally connecting production with consumption, but that's always going to be problematic because it requires a perfect unity between private and public purposes. and that's fine for most marxists because they imagine this total citizen which is wholly committed to planning acting in a sort of harmony and without alienation. but if you strip that away then you need to come up with much better arguments for planning which are rooted in very precise economic arguments and not just this intuition that planning is a natural extension of rationalist humanism. by all this i mean that the ideological intuition involved in most popular marxist arguments rests on this sort of belief in a well-ordered society, making it essentially a mirror image of rawlsian liberalism and such. and so althusser is better in that he focuses on the end of particular oppressions through class liberation, rather than a sort of perfect democratic order.




Yeah that's what I focus on, tying it into nietzsche's commentary on individual subjectivity as a liberatory site made me approach those ideas from something like an eye towards the limitations of rational humanism. And almost instinctually to me, the class division is the option, moreso than performative gender and race, maybe parallel only to biological sex, that is in itself tied to the creative impulse on the level of all humanity. A labor of love

About what iwc said that he doesnt think humans can change: to me that question doesnt really make sense. You can say that, okay, the New Soviet Man was a failure, but that's to miss that failure is extremely productive and that man is concretely transitory, like all life. It's like an onion whose center exists as Outside, its realization is always beyond itself and fundamentally delayed. To me, the question is which way to realize change, to take change as unyielding and circumscribed within the moment and possibility itself

#4129

getfiscal posted:

you know what's sort of funny (to me). reading about psychoanalysis has probably done a lot of the work in making me handle my anxiety and such better. like not much of the physical symptoms have changed but how i handle it has become significantly better in part because of lacanese junk. and i know it's probably half-understood junk but who cares.

for example, i often used to have panic attacks while talking to people because there are constant errors, slips, challenges and misunderstandings. and my brain would sort of slow down and try to work through each one. and once i realized that basically there was no way to avoid that chaotic stream of half-failures in communication i was able to communicate much more easily. and also the idea that people were engaged in a sort of critical dance to challenge me and assess me became much less frightening and then it became less troubling to play along.

beyond that i used to spend a lot of time thinking about meaning in life and such. and the only "solution" i had encountered was the existentialist idea that tends towards thinking that a stable self confronts an absurd world but that constructed meaning can be drawn from it. but the reality seems almost the opposite to me now. that is, the world makes complete sense, it has laws that it follows, but the self is basically an onion, you peel it away and there isn't anything left but the component parts. so the world isn't really absurd, it's more that we are, or rather all the things we desire sort of are insane. but like.... not really even that? like, they can be explained too... from a god's eye view you can know that you fell in love with someone because of some bizarre combination of psychological elements involved, but like, that doesn't really matter, who cares, just live your life!


getfiscal posted:

i read a bit by chantal mouffe yesterday and i think i finally am starting to get what my intuition about planning is (and related issues about althusser and her). basically its connected to rationalism. like planning is this idea that you can bring unity to society by rationally connecting production with consumption, but that's always going to be problematic because it requires a perfect unity between private and public purposes. and that's fine for most marxists because they imagine this total citizen which is wholly committed to planning acting in a sort of harmony and without alienation. but if you strip that away then you need to come up with much better arguments for planning which are rooted in very precise economic arguments and not just this intuition that planning is a natural extension of rationalist humanism. by all this i mean that the ideological intuition involved in most popular marxist arguments rests on this sort of belief in a well-ordered society, making it essentially a mirror image of rawlsian liberalism and such. and so althusser is better in that he focuses on the end of particular oppressions through class liberation, rather than a sort of perfect democratic order.



These two posts are completely contradictory. If consciousness is nothing more than an onion, composed of various hegemonic influences and neuroses, how could a man under communist society be anything but a "total citizen"? You're the only one projecting a humanistic impulse of man to resist totalization or coercion or whatever term you like.


#4130
the opressors always win haha but without revolutions and pushback history would be a dreary place
#4131
im reading women in love by dh lawrence and its really weird, like a pathetically provincial english attempt to emulate continental bitterness & resentment. so characters go to each others country homes and drink tea and do embroidery and then go "oh, gerald, i rather do hate you so." eng lit departments should stop their weird monomaniacal obsession with the paltry pisswords of this rain-sodden isle and just teach some goddamn celine
#4132
#4133
for fucks sake, dont they know the difference between downloading and uploading
#4134

gyrofry posted:

i found a rare video of aerdil, check it out



finally watched this movie and it's basically my life at the moment

#4135
the first torrent i searched for after buying a kindle was "sven hassel"
#4136
#4137
Actually, via the second movement of faith, you make all of the shots you don't take.
#4138
#4139

swampman posted:

http://gayutopia.blogspot.com/2007/12/noah-berlatsky-fecund-horror_12.htmlThis



this is still good if anyone skipped it when it was originally posted. that's what i read today. and like two other bad books

getfiscal get a goodreads if you don't have one please i want to stalk your to-read & have-read and add a bunch of it to my to-read tia. everyone else too. i have finally bought into goodreads completely to manage bookreadings

#4140

drwhat posted:

getfiscal get a goodreads if you don't have one please i want to stalk your to-read & have-read and add a bunch of it to my to-read tia. everyone else too. i have finally bought into goodreads completely to manage bookreadings

link to your goodreads then or PM me with a link.

#4141
i will assume that's you, thanks. thought that might be but i'm not cool enough to know everyone's non-posting names
#4142
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#4143

drwhat posted:

i will assume that's you, thanks. thought that might be but i'm not cool enough to know everyone's non-posting names

that is indeed me.

#4144
http://gawker.com/5957841/there-is-a-tv-show-called-dog-with-a-blog-and-its-about-a-dog-who-blogs
#4145
i finished reading leftist theories of sport and while his criticisms of hegemony theory and earlier leftist theories of sport are convincing his 'solution' is to seperate economic liberalism (bad) from political liberalism (good) and use the liberal principle of separation to demarcate areas of practice from the rest of society, which i guess will make sport uncorrupt and governed by its practitioners (which is the 'socialist' part??). you wouldn't want 'goods' from one part of society influencing activities in other parts, so you just draw a line in the sand and pretend? he talks about how more radical solutions 'boggle the mind' as to how they would be accomplished but doesn't even approach the question of how his solution would be implemented. also his book was really tedious after i got over the initial excitement about the subject since 2/3 of it was painstaking termological criticism that repeated itself 3x for every point and 1/3 his djumbass solution.

i guess i need to write a new leftist theory of sport then since this was the only book i found...
#4146
a friend of mine is doing that for football (as in futbol) so ya better hurry up!!!
#4147
The Outsider by Shamu
#4148
i finished Debt

not only am i humbled in how much i don't know and haven't read, but i feel like the entire academic establishment should be. even though I have poked around on the internet trying to find criticisms and responses to the book, everything I can find that isn't "this is really, really good and you should read it" is written by utter idiots that get destroyed by other people who actually understood what they were reading.

i mean you can certainly debate the fine details a bit and it isn't unassailable but jesus. what a lot of ideas. and now i can spend the next five years of my life finding & reading the books in the bibliography.

i also appreciate that he's an actual real guy who has a twitter and feels shitty sometimes and posts about it there. and also takes the time to thank people who destroy idiots who misunderstood the book entirely (which i am amazed you can do, it's such a clear read, but i suppose people see what they want to see)

thanks for pointing me to it, rza rzone
#4149
i saw him talk in real life and u'll be glad to know he also has the fashion sensibility of the average rhizzone poster
#4150
i still haven't finished it, needed a breather.
#4151
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#4152
it seems like there's tons of cool shit being written by anthropologists recently. it makes sense, before i ever went to university i was like, hey, wow, that sounds like something i'd be really into, i want to study modern society, i have always been into puzzling out the ways our weird shit works and why

then i went and took intro to anthro and went ahahaha this is awful that has nothing to do with anything i'm interested in ... because it didn't, it was just a lot of really superficial junk taught really poorly

i didn't really entertain the idea that the intro course was poorly written or had boring/awful textbooks or the prof was just bad at relating concepts, but i am definitely beginning to think i missed a really interesting field

i often wish there was some way i could go back. i never finished a degree. but (lol) i'm too in debt. oh well
#4153
ironically after reading a whole book about how we should liberate ourselves from debt both mentally and legally, i am still too embarrassed about my student loan debt and everything related to incurring it to even properly discuss it on an obscure forum about marxism that rhymes with a pizza hut food product
#4154
My monthly student loan payments are pretty low. FTW
#4155
i bugged out from university & went and worked semi-illegally in the united states (in the tech industry, as a white canadian, so no one actually cares) while ignoring my student loans so now they're just old and destitute and i have to talk to obscure subdepartments of two different governments (provincial and federal) to figure out wtf to do about any of it, and i think the part of the federal govt i have to talk to is part of revenue canada i.e. the tax people and i never filed taxes in all that time either, so i think they would be like OH REALLY at this point and well i don't really want to deal with it

i could go back if i went to my previous university, and paid for it all out of pocket, i guess, so i could go part-time and take like a decade to do a degree, but i'm 28 and not convinced it's worth it

anyway whatever i don't need to spam the readings thread with this. i will just keep reading and that'll probably be more intellectually gratifying than sitting around with some teenagers in undergrad anthropology courses
#4156

aerdil posted:

i saw him talk in real life and u'll be glad to know he also has the fashion sensibility of the average rhizzone poster



skinny jeans converse all stars & a keffiyeh?? wut

#4157
bootleg for the huskier fellers like me
#4158

deadken posted:

aerdil posted:
i saw him talk in real life and u'll be glad to know he also has the fashion sensibility of the average rhizzone poster


skinny jeans converse all stars & a keffiyeh?? wut



Infrateal once did some MS paint collage of all the LF “characters” and there was one typing “destroy the devil technology” on a computer which I assume was me and it was wearing a black hoodie and looked exactly 100% like me and it still weirds me out to this day.

#4159
Also student debt lol: “oooh let me pay you money for your knowledge let me pay you interest on that…please sir can I have some extra crumbs of knowledge form your table……I’ll work extra long in the slops to thank you”

Talk about slave morality
#4160
i accidentally sat in on a classics lecture and whoops i guess i'm reading some faggo italian renaissance humanist who sympathized with the gracchi