jill stein (Green) - 338,169
rocky anderson (Justice) - 29,928
roseanne barr (Peace) - 29,653
stewart alexander (Socialist) - 3,809
peta lindsay (PSL) - 1,346
pretty terrible all around.
getfiscal posted:so far here are the results for the left:
jill stein (Green) - 338,169
rocky anderson (Justice) - 29,928
roseanne barr (Peace) - 29,653
stewart alexander (Socialist) - 3,809
peta lindsay (PSL) - 1,346
pretty terrible all around.
jeez, guess theres no future in social democracy
Crow posted:jeez, guess theres no future in social democracy
actually most social-democrats in the US are realistic and work within the big tent democratic party.
tpaine posted:haha in 2008 i posted a thread in lf called "bama i think your tent gettin big" and i pasted quotes from awful D^d posters who supported him and mccaine gassed it and probated me
those were the days
Crow posted:jeez, i'm glad i'm blessed not to be such a loser
weird, my news says the democrat won and that the marxist-leninist candidate did terribly.
*Looks up* Well life seems fine. O, i guess im dead now
i still totally don't get this spartan citizen-warrior type stuff but this narrative of a nation of 300 million people as exceptional individuals participating in a grand project is a powerful one
getfiscal posted:yeah obama will have to step up his game if he wants to murder as many muslims as the soviet union did.
Yeah i can't even imagine how far he'd have to step up his game to unmurder so many muslims. I thot you didn't believe in grand projects??
getfiscal posted:obama probably killed fewer pakistanis and afghans in four years than the soviet union killed afghans in a few weeks when they were trying to destroy that country in the name of socialism.
yeah i guess he's more interested in personally pouring over his hit list of muslim children hahaha
getfiscal posted:obama probably killed fewer pakistanis and afghans in four years than the soviet union killed afghans in a few weeks when they were trying to destroy that country in the name of socialism.
i don't like the drone program but yeah it's pretty weaksauce compared to the soviets
http://www.csmonitor.com/1980/0204/020416.html
The world must stand appalled at the cold- blooded massacre under Soviet orders that has virtually destroyed the village of Kerala in Afghanistan. As detailed in today's front- page dispatch, an estimated 1,170 unarmed male villagers, including young teen-age boys, were pitilessly shot and, while some were still alive, bulldozed into a mass grave. The facts are stark, but they have to be confronted by an international community with any pretense to concern for ordinary human decency, let alone human rights.
The killings, unverified until now, took place on April 20 last year. Kerala , which had a population of close to 5,000, is almost deserted. The women and few male survivors who fled are left to confirm the slaughter from their haunted memories.
What remains is the mass grave. What is required is an independent official investigation of the atrocity by an organization such as the Red Cross or the United Nations Commission on Human Rights.
No time should be lost. Recall the lingering controversy over the mass killing of Polish prisoners found buried in the Katyn forest during World War II. Moscow no doubt will seek to avoid responsibility for the Kerala murders as it did for the Katyn massacre. The world should have a full accounting before the grim trail grows cold.
The sort of ruthlessness displayed at Kerala may not be surprising in view of reports from Afghanistan indicating the continuation of it. An eyewitness told the Monitor of events last August in another village where he saw Afghan soldiers, accompanied by Soviet advisers, maiming children before killing five of them along with 28 adults.
Brutality toward even one individual ought to be too much for the conscience of humankind. The scale of the Kerala outrage cruelly dramatizes the suffering of each victim caught between the Soviet invaders and their totalitarian objectives.
Do the people of the Soviet Union want such acts carried out in their name? We cannot believe they do -- and not only because they have a populace of the bereaved to testify to Nazi brutality in the past. Two decades ago Soviet poet Yevgeny Yevtushenko seemed to touch the Russian people by accepting Russian guilt for anti-Semitism and for failing to memorialize the thousands of Jews killed by the Nazis at Babi Yar in the Ukraine. He wrote of himself as "a totally soundless shriek" over the buried victims.
There must be no soundless ignoring of the Afghanistan victims. Those tempted not to care cannot escape the thought in Yevtushenko's bygone words: "I am each old man that was slaughtered here/ I am each child that was slaughtered here./ Nothing in me can forget this."
I read about it in Killing the Cranes, where it goes into detail about it, truly appalling stuff