#321

drwhat posted:

ghostpinballer posted:

a state of perpetually escalating tension with no resolving moment of catharsis

hmm it seems like constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones


And the inability of capitalism to reproduce itself without destroying itself.

#322

drwhat posted:

hmm it seems like constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones


#323
Wasnt there also some eu tax thing set to make uk bourg uncomfy? I thought i read about some sort of legislation against the use of tax havens or something, for example this this: https://www.taxjustice.net/2019/01/23/brexit-and-the-future-of-tax-havens/

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#324

Hahahahaha
#325
what's the 'zone opinion on the GFA? I think if I were some sort of Irish political actor I would support it and probably not shoot people over it specifically.
#326
The Good Friday Agreement brought "peace" at great cost. Today if anything sectarianism is even greater than it was before the Agreement. The wall that divides West Belfast between catholic and protestant still shuts automatically at 6 different points every day at 7pm and doesn't reopen till 7am. Voting is more divided than it every has been, between Sinn Fein and the DUP. The Agreement gives the Unionist, and essentially Britain, a legal veto over Irish sovereignty which should be inalienable.

The Sinn Fein leadership accepted this as a legitimate route to power but they've utterly failed in that, still remaining marginilised in the South and basically propping up brutal austerity in the North under the guise of revolting "power sharing". They did this in the name of an agreement that was barely any better than the Sunningdale Agreement in 1973 which they had opposed. And if they would accept that then what the fuck were the next 20 years of war for?

In the meantime Republicans still face similar attacks that they have always faced, internment without trial, doors kicked down in the middle of the night, constant harassment by special branch agents. Communities in Derry are still impoverished and desperate. Sinn Fein talk about "Irish Unity" as if it's a magic fucking wand, but what the hell will it mean if the North is still divided by sectarianism, and the island as a whole is still dominated by foreign interests.

As James Connolly said:

"If you remove the English army to-morrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin Castle, unless you set about the organisation of the Socialist Republic your efforts would be in vain.
England would still rule you. She would rule you through her capitalists, through her landlords, through her financiers, through the whole array of commercial and individualist institutions she has planted in this country and watered with the tears of our mothers and the blood of our martyrs.
England would still rule you to your ruin, even while your lips offered hypocritical homage at the shrine of that Freedom whose cause you had betrayed."




Sinn Fein have forgotten this, if they ever understood it. The socialism they espouse has never been more than skin deep, and their relentless drive to the centre politically is proof of it. They even speak of alliance with Fine Gael, the fucking party founded by fascists. All they care about is the colour of the flag, not what that flag truly represents. This does not mean that I advocate for an armed campaign as the likes of Saoradh/The New IRA are plowing ahead with. But I understand the violence born of desperation, oppression and occupation more than that born of opportunism. Sinn Fein is far from the only layer of Republican leadership in Irish history to betray what it stood for.


To illustrate that point I'll finish with some famous words from Liam Mellows, a socialist republican who was executed by the pro British Irish Free State in 1922, a Free State that was never dissolved and never truly changed it's leanings:

It is a fallacy to believe that a Republic of any kind can be won through the shackled Free State. You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. The Free State is British created and serves British Imperialist interests. It is the buffer erected between British Capitalism and the Irish Republic.
A Worker’s Republic can be erected only on its ruins. The existing Irish Republic can be made the Worker’s and Peasants Republic if the labour movement is true to the ideals of James Connolly and true to itself.
The Irish Republic represents Independence and the struggle has a threefold significance. It is political; it is intellectual; it is economic. It is political in the sense that it means complete separation from England and the British Empire. It is intellectual in as much as it represents the cultural expression of the Gaelic civilisation and the removal of the impress of English speech and English thought upon the Irish character. It is economic because the wresting of Ireland from the grip of English capitalism can leave no thinking Irishman with the desire to build up and perpetuate this country an economic system that had its roots in foreign domination.
Ireland does not want a change of master. It would be folly to destroy English tyranny in order to erect a domestic tyranny that would need another revolution to free the people. The Irish Republic stands therefore for the ownership of Ireland by the people of Ireland. It means that the means and process of production must not be used for the profit or aggrandisment of any group or class.
Ireland has not yet become industrialized. It never will if in rejecting and casting off British Imperialism (and its offspring the Free State and Northern Parliaments) the Irish workers insist that a native imperialism does not replace it. If the Irish people do not control Irish industries, transport, money and the soil of the country then foreign or domestic capitalists will. And whoever controls the wealth of a country and the processes by which wealth is attained, controls also its government.
Ireland, if her industries and banks were controlled by foreign capital, would be at the mercy of every breeze that ruffled the surface of the world’s money-markets. If social capitalism flourished a social war such as now threatens practically every country in Europe would ensue. Ireland therefore must start with a clean slate.
The Irish Republic is the People's Republic.

#327
"tommy robinson" and sargon of youtube humiliated in european election https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/27/humiliated-tommy-robinson-sneaks-out-of-election-count-early
#328
it's really his fault for trying to take on powerhouse creep deadken on his own turf.
#329



as always both a lot and nothing at all going on at The Guardian today
#330
#331

cars posted:


Is this that British "humour" I heard about? Monthly Python or whatever?

#332

swampman posted:

Is this that British "humour" I heard about? Monthly Python or whatever?



#333
a good rule of thumb for British political media is the harder they stick the boot into corbyn the more the conservatives must be being overtly fascist and/or getting ready to do another evil thing.

sure enough liberal journalists have spent the last week spraying bile at labour because the tories are holding a leadership contest where every candidate is a clinical psychopath and it's difficult to cover that as something other than what it is
#334

pescalune posted:

The wall that divides West Belfast between catholic and protestant still shuts automatically at 6 different points every day at 7pm and doesn't reopen till 7am.



I have been in the UK for years now and talked to a bunch of Irish people about how things really are and still somehow I didn't hear about this shit. Fucking wild. They call them "peace lines"!!!!


"peace line" with "fortified police station" on right


"peace line"


"peace line"


"peace line"

#335
also "interface structures" which is great, good job branding. i feel so fucking ignorant sometimes
#336

drwhat posted:

also "interface structures" which is great, good job branding.



and people wonder why the Oireachtas is trying to make BDS the law

#337
Senile Despot Suspends Parliamentary Rule
MPs "blandish before... throne of skulls," suggests state religion's inbred anti-popess
#338
Whoever would have guessed that permanently bestowing supreme executive authority over a failed nuclear armed empire upon a geriatric inbred tribal leader who does nothing all day but have parties and fondle the baubles of genocide would not result in a democratic working class renaissance?
#339
#340
there are many reasons to criticise constitutional monarchy but the monarch assenting to the request of the prime minister probably isn't one of them. Just Saiyan
#341

Petrol posted:

there are many reasons to criticise constitutional monarchy but the monarch assenting to the request of the prime minister probably isn't one of them. Just Saiyan


the westminster democracy safety valve that turns off democracy when it would be inconvenient for the head hitler in charge is really cool

#342
please don't talk about the queen that way. the prime minister is he head hitler in charge, the queen is more of a superhitler, like the final boss of wolfenstein 3D.
#343
queen of where?
#344
great shitstain

(signing my own psots)
#345

shriekingviolet posted:

head hitler in charge



of rhizzone catchphrases i think this one is my new favorite

#346
queen of what?
#347






#348
he Lied to the QUEEN!
"Literally the best we could do" -Scotland, pseudo-country
#349
for two days last week i thought that corbyn&co would actually defeat the Boris, but then they decided it would be way more of a procedurally epic own to *not* have an election at the peak of national anger at him, and now Boris is going to make a deal with the EU and roar to victory while everyone else shuffles around and stares at their feet. and all the stupid manuevering will be for nothing, and the supreme court will overrule scotland, and thin men with hyphenated names will be begged by their voters to urinate on them
#350
those were a cool two days though.
#351
looking like there will all almost certainly be a December election to choose a new head hitler, set sail for fail
#352
Threads was a good idea nuke the UK!
#353
quietly optimistic, kind of have to be at this point cos reality is grim as fuck
#354
cant write nuke without UK
#355

https://news.sky.com/story/general-election-johnson-compares-corbyn-to-stalin-over-his-hatred-of-the-wealthy-11855158 posted:

General election: Johnson compares Corbyn to Stalin over his 'hatred' of the wealthy



good

Boris Johnson is launching the Conservative election campaign by comparing Jeremy Corbyn to Stalin over his "hatred" of wealth creators.

With parliament dissolved at midnight on Guy Fawkes' Night, the prime minister is heading to Buckingham Palace for an audience with the Queen.



well-known wealth creator Elizabeth Windsor

Writing in The Daily Telegraph, the prime minister claimed Mr Corbyn demonises billionaires in a manner not seen since the former Soviet leader persecuted landowners in the 1930s.



false, i myself have in fact been seen demonising billionaires in an extremely stalinistic manner as recently as 2017. i demand a full retraction

#356
#357
he's "stalin" all right... stalin out in the polls!!
#358