#81

#82
There are now constant and daily lootings of supermarkets and delivery trucks all over the country, you don't see reports in any TV channel though you have to rely on social media and the internet in general, most people simply don't have money to buy food and now thanks to the government's insane policies they have to rely on those CLAP groups to find the regulated products they could buy before.

I guess the only reason there aren't riots on the streets is because people are too weak from hunger...
#83
Glad people are solving the hoarding problems by taking matters into their own hands. Fanon talks about retailers dangerous role in a national liberation struggle in Wretched of the Earth. Good read.
#84

“The colectivos acted with total impunity, they had pipes, motorbike helmets, rocks, explosive artifacts, and they used them against us,” Borges told journalists afterwards, blood dripping from his nose and mouth and spilling down on to his shirt and suit jacket.

lmao a leader of the party of the venezuelan bourgeoisie is literally called "borges" and just got smacked with a pipe

#85
there are trots in venezuela and theyre against the revolution lol

http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/12028
#86

Scrree posted:

there are trots in venezuela and theyre against the revolution lol

http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/12028

if there is corruption, it should be opposed

#87

Panopticon posted:

Scrree posted:

there are trots in venezuela and theyre against the revolution lol

http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/12028

if there is corruption, it should be opposed

either way this article doesn't really give enough details to determine much of anything.

#88
i'll give you some detail, the united states government loves trots
#89
yeah. plus it uses broad allegations of "corruption" against governments it doesn't like. i know.

i guess i am desiring more details on this specific group and their allegations...
#90
http://gawker.com/venezuela-fucked-1783611624 My favorite bit from the whole thing is that "Venezuelands are being FORCED to WAit..... in LINE" which resonates with me bc I get so frustrated just by having one multibabied parent ahead of me in line at the Traitor Joe's, I would probably start flinging acid on people if a line was ever like 80 long
#91
im worried because the media likes to run these overblown apocalyptic stories right before the state department tries to pull something
#92

aerdil posted:

im worried because the media likes to run these overblown apocalyptic stories right before the state department tries to pull something

One of the citations claims "Colombian smugglers have an easier time getting across the border than Venezuelan citizens" but the quote from the smuggler is "Oh it's crazy dangerous, everyone wants to catch us" and the article also mentions that smugglers enter away from border crossings and bribe guards. I mean yeah Venezuela is in the wrong simply because smuggling exists(???) but the State Department can't quite use this knowledge to make a drawing of a truck with a tiny sarin gas factory inside it.

#93
We already bought their most recent congressional election for the capitalist party just last year. Comrade Presidente was elected in '13, looks like Venezuelan presidential terms are 6 years. So there doesn't appear to be anything politically major coming up...other than that coup that state was bragging about recently: http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/post/312183/

But I'm sure there still remains no evidence of any active plotting, so nothing to worry about there.
#94
i heard the maduro government seized an American factory and handed it over to the workers, if so then
#95
The Economist Intelligence Unit predicts the current Venezuelan, Brazilian and Ecuadoran presidents will be gone by EOY
#96
#97
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-29/socialist-utopia-slave-nation-venezuela-unveils-shocking-forced-labor-law
quotes in reverse order

Antonio Pestana, chief of Venezuela's farming association, indicated that Venezuela’s food crisis was a simple issue related to the underutilization of available ag land, telling reporters last month that only 25 percent of agricultural land is actually being farmed in Venezuela.

As Vice News reports, President Nicolás Maduro signed a new law last week that requires "all workers from the public and private sector with enough physical capabilities and technical know-how" to work in agricultural fields on demand. The new law mandates that citizens can be required to work in the agricultural sector for a period of 60 days which can be extended "if the circumstances require it."

So what do you do if you’re the President of a Socialist government with mounting civil unrest and growing political opposition seeking your ouster via a recall referendum? Well you enslave your entire nation, of course.

#98
I've never clicked on a zerohedge link and I intend to keep it that way
#99

Despite holding itself out as a town crier for market angst, transcripts from Zero Hedge internal chat sessions provided by Lokey reveal a focus on Web traffic by the Durdens. Headlines are debated and a relentless publishing schedule maintained to keep readers sated. Lokey said the emphasis on profit—and what he considered political bias at the site—motivated him to quit.

He pointed to the wealth of the Durdens as a factor. Ivandjiiski has a multimillion-dollar mansion in Mahwah, N.J., and Backshall lives in a plush San Francisco suburb—not exactly reflections of Pitt's anticapitalist icon. “What you are reading at Zero Hedge is nonsense. And you shouldn’t support it,” Lokey wrote in an e-mail. “Two guys who live a lifestyle you only dream of are pretending to speak for you.”

Lokey adds: “Durden lives in a castle. If you’ve seen Fight Club, you know how ironic that is.”

A former “director of contributor success” at website Seeking Alpha, Lokey said he joined Zero Hedge for $6,000 a month and received an annual bonus of$50,000, earning more than \$100,000 last year. His salary helped pay the rent on a “very nice” condominium on South Carolina’s Hilton Head Island, he said. Despite the compensation, he contends that he left because he disagreed with the site's editorial vision. “Reality checks are great. But Zero Hedge ceased to serve that public service years ago,” Lokey wrote. “They care what generates page views. Clicks. Money.”

Zero Hedge founder Ivandjiiski defended the site, adding that it's designed to be a for-profit entity. “Ultimately, the website makes money, and it’s profitable, which is also why we’ve never had to seek outside funding or any outside money—our only revenue is from advertising, always has been since day one,” he said. “Obviously, every publisher’s mission is to maximize revenue and page views, and we think that we do it in a way that is appropriate.”

#100
Those zero hedge writers are paid six figures to write that crap
#101
gotta get that reddit dollar
#102
I just find it remarkable that writers are paid so little and that they make so much money from web traffic
#103
so can the venezuelan actually send people to the fields or what
#104
In Cuba they do that, but they mostly rope youth into it and make it like a terrible summer camp.
#105
i wish i could go to grad school in cuba & spend some of it working in the fields, feeling like the ending to office space
#106
https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2016/07/31/more-than-50-animals-starve-to-death-in-venezuelas-zoos-as-the-nation-endures-devastating-food-shortages/

Marlene Sifontes, a union leader for employees of state parks agency Inparques which oversees zoos, told Reuters that the zoo lost Vietnamese pigs, tapirs, rabbits and birds after the animals went weeks without eating. Others animals at the zoo are in danger of severe malnutrition. Lions and tigers, which should be on a carnivorous diet, are being fed mango and pumpkin just to get something in their empty stomachs, while an elephant is being fed tropical fruit instead of its usual diet of hay, the union leader said. According to one report, the big cats are being fed slaughtered thoroughbred racehorses from a nearby race track.

Cecilio el león

#107
Those horses were destined to die in vain for our entertainment goddamnit! those monsters
#108
cool to see that the Media is applying the same brush to venezuela as it uses on north corea

we could probably make a headline generator if people want to contribute snippets?
#109
trump and some latin american governments like peru are saying maduro has launched a coup attempt

the supreme court has taken over some of the legislature's powers (the flashpoint being some kind of state-owned oil company?)

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Fake-News-Claims-of-Coup-in-Venezuela-Debunked-20170330-0026.html

the government are saying the amazonas candidates from the 2015 election were illegally sworn into office because there were allegations of vote-buying, so the legislature as a whole is functioning illegally

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/DNP-New-Evidence-of-electoral-Crimes-in-Amazonas-20160112-0011.html

#110
He should come launch a coup in the US
#111
So how is this gonna end up guys? My understanding is that while Maduro is in some sense unpopular the opposition isn't doing much better. Is there any way for Maduro to just ride this out? Or is it gonna keep getting worse until it comes to a head?

Also, I can't really tell what to make of the current opposition protests, is that mostly propaganda or are there actually a lot of people in the streets (even if just in Caracas)?
#112
i don't know dude sorry.
#113
i mean about how it's going to ultimately end up. obviously the opposition's support is overblown that's like the third full time job of the thinned-out u.s. press atm.
#114
Both Maduro and the opposition are popular, in their own ways
#115
GM says Venezuela has seized a factory of theirs
#116
ahem, liberated
#117
I've been reading some interesting stuff about Venezuela for a research paper. One thing that's interesting is that the left doesn't really claim they actually control the country. I mean there are a lot of government policies they keep or introduce that they openly say they despise. Sometimes they have chosen (probably wisely) to make large concessions to business owners. There are massive mostly-regressive subsidies still built into the system. They have just been trying very carefully to only move as far as the average person would support, whether or not that's a good strategy. Like if they made all middle-class pay global market prices for gasoline that would cause a political crisis they might not be able to manage.

#118
#119

mediumpig posted:

So how is this gonna end up guys? My understanding is that while Maduro is in some sense unpopular the opposition isn't doing much better. Is there any way for Maduro to just ride this out? Or is it gonna keep getting worse until it comes to a head?

Also, I can't really tell what to make of the current opposition protests, is that mostly propaganda or are there actually a lot of people in the streets (even if just in Caracas)?

Maduro is not unpopular. He, and his party the PSUV, have been gaining in popularity. Also, we are not concerned with the numbers of the protesters, but their class position. What class do they belong to, what class do they (and their actions) serve, etc? From observing the political parties in Venezuela that organize the protests, to the constant racist braying of the American media, and the neighborhoods that the protests mostly occur in we can answer these questions.

The situation will not get "better" or "worse", it will remain this way as long as the comprador class exists and has power and the support of the American empire. Maduro and PSUV have no good options. They can appease the compradors and initiate "structural reforms" but nothing will ever be enough, at least until the working class is taught a lesson in blood for their disobedience to America (i.e. Chile). They can expropriate the capital, eliminate the compradors and their power base, but that would likely provoke a bigger and bloodier response, a possible shooting war (or "rebellion").

Support for Chavismo Climbs in Venezuela

By RACHAEL BOOTHROYD-ROJAS

Caracas, April 13, 2017 (venezuelanalysis.com) – Support for the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV) and the allied leftist coalition, the Great Patriotic Pole (GPP), has risen to 35% – up from 27% in January – according to a new poll.

Carried out by independent think tank Hinterlaces, the survey shows that the ruling Chavista parties – which share the same voting ticket – continue to be Venezuela’s most popular electoral option despite an ongoing economic crisis.

Additionally, the poll puts support for the entirety of Venezuela’s opposition parties six points below at 29%, which includes 7% for Democratic Action, 7% for the Popular Will party, 6% for the Justice First party, and 6% for the opposition MUD coalition as a whole.

Nonetheless, a significant 36% of Venezuelans interviewed did not sympathize with any national party.

In its conclusions based on the poll, Hinterlaces asserts that the PSUV “continues to be the main political, social, and cultural force in the country,” while Democratic Action and the Popular Will party have managed to “consolidate themselves as the principal parties of the opposition, displacing Justice First” (PJ).

However, support for the Popular Will party appears to have dropped from 8.6% in January, while backing for Democratic Action has risen by 1%.

The pollster attributed the rise of the two opposition parties in the MUD to the “fall” of PJ leader Henrique Capriles Radonski, due to “his repeated setbacks as promoter of the failed strategies carried forward by the opposition from 2013, and for the growing unpopularity of his administration as governor of Miranda state”.

1580 people were interviewed as part of the poll, which has a 2.5% margin of error.

The survey results come on the back of another poll carried out by centre-right independent think tank Datanalisis in March, which put President Nicolas Maduro’s popularity ratings at 24.1%, according a report by Torino Capital. The figure represents an increase of 6% since November 2016, and places Maduro above other regional leaders such as Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto (21%), de-facto Brazilian President Michel Temer (10%), and Chilean President Michelle Bachelet (23%).

#120
A country is under attack for resisting US imperialism and consistently fighting to improve the quality of life for ordinary people. I'm sure the American Left will defen-

To be consistent to socialist principles and our strategic goals, we need to look further than a superficial analysis that defends Maduro as the only option for leftists. The situation in Venezuela is critical, and working people are the ones who are suffering the most. There is no short-term solution to the crisis.

But the revolutionary left must begin to articulate an independent project that rejects the current bureaucratization of the Bolivarian process. This project must fight for regrouping the political and social forces capable of and willing to form new organizations whose aims include democratizing and advancing workers' self-confidence and independence.