#5761

Dimashq posted:

I decided to take Arabic at my university this semester and the class is filled with wannabe State Department lackeys and future US non-profit workers (and one post-colonial religion grad student lol). You might have heard of our textbook, al-Kitaab, a book that is decidedly written specifically for these types of individuals which became evident immediately because literally on page 2 in Chapter 1 is a vocabulary list including "United Nations". Not complaining, but the cherry on top for this whole situation is that the class takes place in our university's ROTC building giving it all a shady, eerie feeling. The classroom has a bookshelf filled with infantry manuals and operational strategy books and there's even a table filled with toy green soldiers, presumably for teaching future marines how to most efficiently maneuver in the field and maybe even perpetrate a proper Mai Lai. It's filled with sand.

The teacher is pretty cool though.


arabic seems like a cool language to know

#5762

blinkandwheeze posted:

my critique is that the workers' party of belgium never established militant revolutionary struggle in any meaningful sense so appealing to their experience or line as any kind of practical authority is ridiculous. there's no reason to levy a particular critique against martens or the line of his party in particular because simply identifying their stage of development is sufficient

for what it's worth i will qualify that this isn't singling out martens in particular, this applies to very nearly any of the figures of 20th century marxist-leninist organisation in the west. it is completely absurd to inherit these past organisational traditions and lines because they all almost universally failed to develop to the point of revolutionary struggle. urbandale or any other random psl member (or poster on this forum) know effectively as much as the highest leadership of western european marxist-leninist parties when it comes to the question of how to develop militant struggle in the core, i.e. basically nothing

i don't know where your accusations of putting words in your mouth or whatever are coming from. i am simply arguing against the fact you cited a western marxist-leninist as an authority on organisational development, which you clearly did, something i consider absurd

belgend posted:

i also don't understand how people here are thinking the psl was in the wrong for softlocking urban for - according to urban's own posts - just up and leaving a congress where he was a delegate at. that's not demcen gone mad like how tears and apparently other people here have experienced demcen in the past. that's just a procedure


if a years deep high ranking member going for a smoke break is seen as equivalent to a walkout in protest worthy of softblocking then it is a stupid procedure for idiots



wHAT AN AMAZING POST

#5763
Idiot local communists involved in the org: Yea urbandale was fucking up

Genios Revolutionary Armed Strugglers of the Rhizzone dot Net: I THINK THE FUCK NOT!!!!
#5764
to be fair if national says youre fucking up and you disagree youre breaking demcen.

e: i dont personally disagree i broke from the party by stepping out, i think the issue is more the penalty for doing so and the failure of the party to censure or discipline anyone who had been hanging out in the lobby/landing/outside all day

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#5765
I camn add "loiterers = wreckers" to the rules thread if u want
#5766

Crow posted:

Idiot local communists involved in the org: Yea urbandale was fucking up

Genios Revolutionary Armed Strugglers of the Rhizzone dot Net: I THINK THE FUCK NOT!!!!


how is kicking out a years deep high ranking member for taking a smoke break during a meeting, even after they conducted self-criticism, a reasonable process

#5767
more a matter of asking "is this an appropriate and productive response" than insisting Our Boy Can Do No Wrong
#5768
i don't think anyone here thinks the actions in question aren't an infraction, just an insanely trivial one.
#5769
i was a mid-ranking member at best thank you
#5770

JohnBeige posted:

the failure of the party to censure or discipline anyone who had been hanging out in the lobby/landing/outside all day



im going to start collecting things like this for my book, "absurdism in communist organising"

#5771
i like to loiter in lobbies, is there a future for me in an org?
#5772
Marxism-Loitering
#5773
Lets not lose sight of the real wrong doer here: yoda, not over wild accusations but for not following the rules of Galactic senate.
#5774
Rhizzone Poster Urbandale's Telekinetic Midair Battle With Local Chairman, And What It Means For Your Demcen
#5775
flaked on a mixer last night cuz it was linked to a foundation, and i looked into the foundation, found their lecture series, found a DARPA brat humping human gene editing for security applications and a panel of climate traitors and anyway i can't wait to be bred by DARPA to survive on 4oz of irradiated water a day and have a tiny cortical stroke when my eyes meet the word Marx, like a pain rune

edit: single DARPA brat

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#5776
hung out in a park w/ my laptop watching the moon rise and fixed a project problem that'd been fuckin with me for days. took a huge sigh of relief, and a couple popped over and handed me a plate of tacos from their party, the ppl behind me put on kendrick. i'll always know who my people are, fuck the tech aristocracy and fuck their mixers.
#5777

toyotathon posted:

human gene editing for security applications


could you post or pm links?

#5778

Gssh posted:

toyotathon posted:


human gene editing for security applications


could you post or pm links?



#5779

Gssh posted:

toyotathon posted:

human gene editing for security applications

could you post or pm links?


nice try KGB

#5780

toyotathon posted:

hung out in a park w/ my laptop watching the moon rise and fixed a project problem that'd been fuckin with me for days. took a huge sigh of relief, and a couple popped over and handed me a plate of tacos from their party, the ppl behind me put on kendrick. i'll always know who my people are, fuck the tech aristocracy and fuck their mixers.


what do you do?

i miss tacos

#5781

Gssh posted:

could you post or pm links?



i pm'd ya but i'll just post it http://longnow.org/seminars/02017/oct/30/engineering-gene-safety/

from her DARPA bio: "Prior to joining DARPA as a PM, Dr. Wegrzyn was a Senior Lead Biotechnologist at Booz Allen Hamilton, where she led a team that provided scientific and strategic support in the areas of biodefense, biosecurity, disruptive technologies, emerging infectious disease, neuromodulation, and synthetic biology to DARPA and other federal and private institutions. She is a former fellow and active mentor for the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center’s Center for Health Security “Emerging Leaders in Biosecurity” initiative. Dr. Wegrzyn also led research and development teams in the biotech industry focused on the development of multiplex immunoassays and peptide-based disease diagnostics."

mentioned to my friend that climate traitor Bjorn Lomborg held the same podium, he responded:
"Like there are lots of good reasons to invite Bjorn Lomborg to your event. Like, there was that Surviving the Game movie where a guy gets invited on a hunting trip and it turns out when he gets there he's actually the quarry. Or there's that Dinner for Idiots movie, where you have to invite the biggest moron you can find and whoever makes everybody cringe the most wins. Or, also, there are those things where like most of the people involved know it's an orgy but you invite a few people who don't and you see if they join in or not"

#5782

You think about all the shit amerikkka has researched and stored away in a labyrinth of rooms underground in DARPA's basement, called "Pandora's Box" by some clever asshole working there back in the sixties.
room 24302-A has a freezer full of 15 different, but similar, virus specimens that are capable of causing the human liver to release toxins that slowly breaks down its host's flesh. 25091 has a variety of mammal specific mind altering substances, including an unnamed compound that causes koalas to masturbate to exhaustion. Go up one floor to U3 you'll find room 32001 which contains a neat compound that turns a significant amount of zooplankton specie's waste into a bright red color - other than the likely possibility of turning all of the world's seawater red, it doesn't do much else
Taking up a considerably large corner of level U-5 there is a server farm that is actively tracking every single foreign satellite with an accuracy of 1.15 ms. And if you go down the road to the CIA offices, they have their own room which contains a small server farm along with the necessary procedure to fire the entire inventory of ASAT's and probably destroying 89-91% of all non US controlled satellites.

Christian, a freshly minted MIT grad, was excited to start working for DARPA. It didn't take long before he was given an informal lecture about all the monstrous research being conducted there. It was simple: "it's in the name of defense, it won't take long before our enemies discover the same stuff, and we gotta make sure we know how to stop it". That made sense to Christian. although...months later.. he did once think to himself "what if something bad happens and America devolves into something nasty, what if this stuff gets in the wrong hands?". He looked outside his office window and saw the american flag proudly waving on its mast.. Then he turned towards the photo of his wife and newly born child. Shook his head. "no. america is great. that could never happen"
#5783
Re: Long Now Foundation: Like, okay, 10,000 year clock, always making different sounds, embedded in a mountain side near 5000 year old Bristlecone Pines (the longest living organism on earth), that sounds pretty cool, you know, I love smoking weed too, and you're all actually doing it... Whoa. But, if this is what rich artists and scientist are getting up to, and not maybe, more practical things like, um, well, I can't think of anything rn, but let's just assume there is some area in dire need of attention... I dunno... *clicks through membership options* Brian Eno????
#5784
sorry i missed all the demcem drama surrounding you, johnbeige. that sounds horrible abuse, an unnecessary purge in your case, we are only establishing demcem slowly but surely which i as a high-ranking local member have approved but also am curious if this could be used against my panic disorder instances, not that i need to be treated like a fucking special snowflake but incase of real life trivialities keeping me from destressing myself between attending atleast biweekly meetings between therapy and assisted housing shit. i need to take breathing excercises in crowds of comrades and short-acting meds and cigarettes. luckily cigarette breaks are designated and ive been trying to market myself as somekind of an open channel to the unwashed mentally ill masses but its still kinda hard to be open about that.

maybe my paranoia is taking the best of me and my small org is actually more humane in its treatment
#5785


Sorry. Seriously.
#5786

levoydpage posted:

Re: Long Now Foundation: Like, okay, 10,000 year clock, always making different sounds, embedded in a mountain side near 5000 year old Bristlecone Pines (the longest living organism on earth), that sounds pretty cool, you know, I love smoking weed too, and you're all actually doing it... Whoa. But, if this is what rich artists and scientist are getting up to, and not maybe, more practical things like, um, well, I can't think of anything rn, but let's just assume there is some area in dire need of attention... I dunno... *clicks through membership options* Brian Eno????



they've got a jurassic park initiative which is just pure, brazen scam. 100 species went extinct yesterday, of which we have names for 10, and 19th century ink drawings for 3, but they say they're going to take earth's genetic picture and restore earthlife to a time before capitalist humanity committed its greatest possible crime. cool clock though.

#5787
imagine looking around the world in 2017 and being super mad that the clocks dont go up to 10000
#5788
But, I want it to cuckoo noooooooowwwwww
#5789
the scattered remenants of humanity grubbing in the irradiated dirt to survive, worshiping a 10000 year old clock built by jeff bezos, founder of popular shopping website amazon . com
#5790

tears posted:

the scattered remenants of humanity grubbing in the irradiated dirt to survive, worshiping a 10000 year old clock built by jeff bezos, founder of popular shopping website amazon . com


artist rendition

#5791
so i've successfully travelled the breadth of canada and have ended up in the westernmost province. anybody looking for a roommate in greater vancouver area? haha, i'm looking at a couple places to live.
it's funny, i drove out here and that's obviously useful to have stuff, but it's so expensive keeping the car gassed up and having to keep moving it's parking location. luckily, i know that commercial parking lots can issue tickets, but unless they send bill collectors at you, you can safely ignore them. supposedly wal-mart lets you park overnight at their lots, so i've been sleeping in the back, so i'm obviously better off than most, but i can't just walk around and see things like when i was backpacking in europe.

basically i'm just commenting on the inanities of capitalist life and musing about how much easier if we just had a good supply of housing and distributing them in a fair and equitable way.
#5792

levoydpage posted:

Sorry. Seriously.




the dx7 is a nice touch

#5793
The South is the center of American life because it pioneered sunbelt corporate ideology: racially-blind multiculturalism, flattening history into competing extremeisms, individual valorization and narcissistic self-consumption in order to adopt to neoliberal labor disciplining, overcome the black liberation movement and the white working class resistance to both. The way we think of the south as exceptionally racist is simply the North's ideology which only exists as the shadow of the South and is only stable because de-facto segregation and internal colonization was completely victorious in the North, the material foundation for John Oliver liberalism and anti-South identity.

John Oliver has a new thing complaining about the confederacy and it's shitty but he does have a part worth noticing where he goes through the symbols of America. After pointing out that the statue of liberty = we love freedom, his replacements are a bunch of harmless liberal symbols that can be googled by the audience. Northern liberalism is so fragile that any celebration of reconstruction and its actual heroes or criticism of the North would be impossible because of the subsequent betrayal of the northern bourgeoisie and its role as the main advocate of scientific racism and segregation doesn't fit into the North/South division. Of course some Southern liberals reverse this and celebrate a kitsch Dollywood version of slavery and the civil war but the actual essence of the South is neoliberalism through and through, those are only a few hegemonic media voices and don't speak for the true Trump masses.

This also means California is the worst place on Earth because rather than disavowal and then ironic celebration of settlerism in the South or absolute forgetting in the North, California has a Disneyfied version of both. They are neither at the center of new South neoliberalism nor inheritors of old American bourgeois power but the decadent escapees of both. Settler occupation of Mexico and internment of Asians is of course unspeakable but liberalism is only a cynical underpinning to new age hippy remains of the 70s or tech "r/askgaybros." Now that I live here I see the true face of Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg as uniquely Californian (that they are expats is necessary). Want to go back to Florida lol, at least people like tpaine are possible there because the face of capitalism is so visible.
#5794

troolari posted:

sorry i missed all the demcem drama surrounding you, johnbeige. that sounds horrible abuse, an unnecessary purge in your case, we are only establishing demcem slowly but surely which i as a high-ranking local member have approved but also am curious if this could be used against my panic disorder instances, not that i need to be treated like a fucking special snowflake but incase of real life trivialities keeping me from destressing myself between attending atleast biweekly meetings between therapy and assisted housing shit. i need to take breathing excercises in crowds of comrades and short-acting meds and cigarettes. luckily cigarette breaks are designated and ive been trying to market myself as somekind of an open channel to the unwashed mentally ill masses but its still kinda hard to be open about that.

maybe my paranoia is taking the best of me and my small org is actually more humane in its treatment



its probably fine. as long as all parties are discussing things with each other without interruptions, most conflicts are eliminated as assumptions are struck. internal education on disability and accessibility is incredibly needed on the left, and goes a long way to establishing a framework for members to think of other peoples actions inside and outside of organizing spaces. demcen is great, it just requires two-way communication.

#5795
You will probably want to avoid busy Cali health food stores. Based of your last paragraph, they might leave you exhausted and terrified. Northern California refers to itself as Jefferson Sate, but yes, California is a complex geography. It's like the people who live here expected manifest destiny to never end and the lush redwood forests and beaches extend off the horizon and multiply in a psychedelic infinity mirror...
#5796
southern californias saving grace is that its not white, though it still operates under the shadow of the san fransisco Dems influence and high-tech militarism politically.
#5797

babyhueypnewton posted:

This also means California is the worst place on Earth because rather than disavowal and then ironic celebration of settlerism in the South or absolute forgetting in the North, California has a Disneyfied version of both. They are neither at the center of new South neoliberalism nor inheritors of old American bourgeois power but the decadent escapees of both. Settler occupation of Mexico and internment of Asians is of course unspeakable but liberalism is only a cynical underpinning to new age hippy remains of the 70s or tech "r/askgaybros." Now that I live here I see the true face of Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg as uniquely Californian (that they are expats is necessary). Want to go back to Florida lol, at least people like tpaine are possible there because the face of capitalism is so visible.



california's settler history is so vile, you're right about Disneyfication, the state history taught in schools is a series of lies. we learn that the settler land rush was a gold rush, despite the accumulated land value being many times more than the sierra's gold. we learn that the indians died from disease, which makes no sense on the face of disease exposure by the spanish for generations. settlers eliminated around 95% of the california indians in the span of around 30 years, the US army went up and down the rivers here on search and destroy missions like it was the mekong delta. surviving indians were put in zoos and fed when they re-enacted arrowhead making etc. in CA's schools they spend a year teaching about the spanish missions and zero about CA's slave history or that the first governor declared race war. california was the apogee of settler genocide, because the war techniques had been perfected, the guns were better, the war logistics were better, and california's indians were literally the most peaceful, least violent humans who have ever lived. californians are a people without history because facing any of it would shatter the myth of the state.

#5798

babyhueypnewton posted:

The South is the center of American life because it pioneered sunbelt corporate ideology: racially-blind multiculturalism,



#5799
i mean, california sucks and new england is just as racist, don't get me wrong but let's be realistic.
#5800
my partner has also now been expelled for going outside during PCoR. lol national is a shitshow