#361

Makeshift_Swahili posted:
any schedule for Exhumations? im writing some notes for myself this time around but im afraid they might be less coherent than the book itself

okay i've had a lot of reading for school i've had to do lately so i'm not very far along, but i'm on break now. i don't think we're particularly good at schedules here at tHE rHizzonE, so feel free to read at your own pace and post your reflections as they come to you i guess!

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#363
im a bit into exhumations.... the stuff about dust is kewl and got me thinking about deterritorialisation and the Swarm and so on.... i might make an actual post
#364
I like that section, it's all Bataille and Conrad. Life being deviations within dust's cycle and parts of systems detaching themselves and mutating, tending toward chaos.
Leper creativity again.

"creation is the surplus value of the Ouroboros cycle of the pest which lays it's eggs via devouring"

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#365
finally starting lol
#366
something else that seems like it could be relevant here, at least for comparison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Docta_Ignorantia

#367
yet another in a long list of games that are almost, but not quite, in the cyclonopedia genre, in one way or another. just played frozen synapse for the first time the other day and immediately had visions of modified campaign where youre an idf squad burrowing through nablus.

heres a random screenshot from the net if you havent seen the game before. rocket dudes can smooth out striations
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#370
this book looks interesting and i am going to give it a go. wish me luck.
#371

tpaine posted:

so eh...hehe he...hows the community reading project coming along? Fuckers?

i read the book but am unable to discuss. reading project reversal

#372

Crow posted:

i guess itd be cool if everyone was breaking their brains in western islamophilia and the dudes just using shit like "gog-magog" from the same angle bush was (when trying to convince chirac). "Only zionists truly understand deleuze!", the iranian version of deadken says to american officers

#373
haha why are half the things you say incomprehensible
#374
who let the gogs out
#375

tpaine posted:

so eh...hehe he...hows the community reading project coming along? Fuckers?

i read the book but am unable to discuss. reading project reversal

u can do it animedad, i believe in u! do it for clue cru! if you have any questions or problems i'd be happy to help

#376
i dont think understanding of deleuze can be measured in degrees, each understanding is itself a transformation; interpretation is the creation of chimeras
#377

haha why are half the things you say incomprehensible

you misunderstood dude, im not reza, save ur questions for when u see him at the naval academy

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#379

mistersix posted:

yet another in a long list of games that are almost, but not quite, in the cyclonopedia genre, in one way or another. just played frozen synapse for the first time the other day and immediately had visions of modified campaign where youre an idf squad burrowing through nablus.

heres a random screenshot from the net if you havent seen the game before. rocket dudes can smooth out striations

looks kewl

#380
all this talk of lepers and food is very medieval
#381

babyfinland posted:

all this talk of lepers and food is very medieval

#382
in the interest of building connections, bldgblog mentions here a conversation in which reza cites this 70s russian novella: http://lib.ru/RUFANT/WOJSKUNOWSKIJ/mekong_engl.txt
#383
I'm up to The Thing: White War And Hypercamouflage

At the start of The Dust Enforcer Reza talks about the way the spread of disease antagonises the hygiene industry and how the development of each ironically accelerates the development its opposite. This is called an Evolutionary Arms Race and its why anti-biotics are only prescribed sparingly. The pest in a perpetual struggle against its host.

Reading this book I had been thinking a lot about parasites (nemat space, The Other, plus they're just lovecraftian) so when I got to this part I was like "whoa"

#384
i just got a kindle and on pg5 it was said that there's a decent (non scan) copy...
aaaarg is taken down, where else could i get it?

tia
#385

xipe posted:

i just got a kindle and on pg5 it was said that there's a decent (non scan) copy...
aaaarg is taken down, where else could i get it?

tia

aaaaarg isnt down, but PM me your email and ill hook it up

#386
did you guys get to the inside/outside stuff yet? agamben sort of makes similar arguments about the state of exception, the nature of sovreignty and the political dimension generally
#387
Where exactly are people up to on this? I think if we're just going to say that we've read sections then it's going to be hard to actually have any sort of a converstion about it. I havn't got the book in front of me right now and i got sidetracked by ATP and some Delanda stuff so I can't actually remember where I'm up to in it this time. However, would be useful, rather than thinking of this book as a linear progression, to acknowledge the fact that it circles and drifts through a lot of the same things over and over and talk about it as a whole, even if someone of us haven't read to the end yet?
Are there problematics that seem key?
What is going on aside from the suposed sybiotic dichotomy of technocapitalism and monotheistic terrorism?
etc
#388
yeah, sorry FrancoNero, when i'm not keeping up this thread kinda dies - i've been sidetracked quite a bit and broken reading habits, but i should be getting back into the groove soon enough. i do think you're right about treating the book nonlinearly, i am not sure focusing section-by-section will be particularly as fruitful

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Oh hey just wanted to point out an interesting connection between the Israeli army wall busting maneuver, that game, striated/smooth space, etc... and the 2003 burglary in San Francisco which resulted in the theft of $6m dollars in jewelry by the Smith brothers and George Turner. The robbers broke through a wall in a neighboring closed down restaurant to enter the store and held the staff hostage while they stole the merchandise. In the small and segregated city of San Francisco, the act of three black men breaking into and stealing wealth from a symbol of bourgeoise decadence and wealth would have been a highly symbolic act were it not for the fact that the whole job was set up by the owner of the store, a rich white asshole, as an insurance scam. Three of the five people involved in the heist have been arrested, the owner received his insurance money and is now free. #391 [account deactivated] #392 EmanuelaOrlandi posted: Oh hey just wanted to point out an interesting connection between the Israeli army wall busting maneuver, that game, striated/smooth space, etc... and the 2003 burglary in San Francisco which resulted in the theft of$6m dollars in jewelry by the Smith brothers and George Turner. The robbers broke through a wall in a neighboring closed down restaurant to enter the store and held the staff hostage while they stole the merchandise. In the small and segregated city of San Francisco, the act of three black men breaking into and stealing wealth from a symbol of bourgeoise decadence and wealth would have been a highly symbolic act were it not for the fact that the whole job was set up by the owner of the store, a rich white asshole, as an insurance scam. Three of the five people involved in the heist have been arrested, the owner received his insurance money and is now free.

this was also the plot to Short Circuit 2 iirc

#393
so i've been reading this (now up to Mesopatamian Axis of Communication), and I'm digging it pretty well so far, and feel like I've got a decent grasp despite having never read deleuze + guattari (probably i don't), but i've noticed some weird things emerging in the text. For example, am i just being a big liberal baby to be concerned with the political implications of the glenn beckian islamophobia that's been getting stronger as it goes on (particularly in War As Machine and Barbaric Music and Voweless Alphabets)? It doesn't really seem helpful to just reduce it to a narrative device, but I should probably finish it before i make a final judgment there.

But aside from that, I'm also finding a lot of comparison's to pynchon's Against the Day, what with the dichotomy of Tellurian Insurgency/Solar Capitalism mirroring a lot of the Manichean elements of pynchon's work, including the ultimate collapse and rejection of that dichotomy.

Also is anyone else finding that the work seems more and more to be simply a guide to itself, that it is not the story it tells but a method for unearthing a different story? And I don't necessarily mean that in a reductive sense like it's just some stupid puzzle to solve, but more as it being an explicit example of its own narrative in( )action. Like in Machines are Digging when it says "In Hidden Writings the act of reading and writing is conducted through those plot holes rejected by most interpreters as misleading obscurities," does that mean its wrong to dismiss outright the numerology and other 'red herrings' that seem to dot the text?

Or the seemingly meaningless emphasis on room numbers in the icgonitum hactenus (306), which seems dismissable until a footnote also mentions that "Wherever there is a room number, a microscopic numerical narration is in progress...Room numbers are denizens of plot holes but this doesn't mean that they don't have plots of their own." What is the plot of that number?
#394

oh

no

#395
oh sry for the... exhumation
#396
no its cool and drwhat is now on the List
#397
yes drwhat have chapter 8 read and write a 2 page report by monday or its the banhammer for you
#398
goddamnit
#399
i started this book a long time ago but had no idea what it was and had no idea how to read this kind of thing at the time, i thought it was gonna be like thomas ligotti or something for some reason which is why i originally bought it (+ the back cover description of "islam is to negarestani as marxism to bataille" or something)

i recently read nick land's book on bataille and this thread made me want to look thru cyclonopedia again so welp add another person to the list of ppl who own this book and have looked at it but not much else
#400
will do