#121
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getfiscal posted:
someone in LF came into marxchat and said that very soon africans would be able to buy a replicator bot that made 3d printers and solve all their problems and i laughed really hard



grey goo running amok in the dark continent would certainly solve some #fwp

#122
meet me in st louis
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#fwp being exploiting africans
#123
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hmm, that gives me an idea on developing a von neumann probe that will only land on planets that have dark skinned inhabitants or are poor. huzzah!
#124
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melanin seeking nanobots
#125
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:
It just goes to show the worthlessness of science imo. It just shits me that people sperg out about dumb shit like 3D printing ("oh wow a machine that crafts things! what's a lathe?") like it's the second coming of Christy.



lol if you think 3d printing is anything like a lathe. thats fucking superlol

the ubiquitous and completely distributed/democratized manufacturing of cheap consumer plastics is going to completely destabilize the Chinese market and literally destroy millions of trademarks in one fell swoop and its going to be hilarious

this is seriously the one "new" thing that its completely dumb to smugly underplay about. *talks about workers owning the means of production* *poo-poos the first thing that ever comes along to actually make that possible*

#126
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selling iPhone cases is LITERALLY a $436 million dollar a year industry. gone, overnight

crustpunk_trotsky posted:
melanin seeking nanobots



well weve already perfected melanin-ignoring technology

http://gizmodo.com/5431190/hp-face+tracking-webcams-dont-recognize-black-people

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Superabound posted:
*poo-poos the first thing that ever comes along to actually make that possible*



lol yes 3d printing is the first thing thats made worker ownership of the means of production possible

#128
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comrades, the historical conditions have been met through which, at last, we have reached the highest stage of the proletarian revolution thus far. this moment is the summit that the blood shed by our endless, protracted struggle has finally led us to. paper tigers will tremble at our new found ability to produce stupid plastic garbage at a fairly adequate frequency
#129
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"possible" by which i mean "inevitable" by which i mean "possible"

blinkandwheeze posted:
comrades, the historical conditions have been met through which, at last, we have reached the highest stage of the proletarian revolution thus far. this moment is the summit that the blood shed by our endless, protracted struggle has finally led us to. paper tigers will tremble at our new found ability to produce stupid plastic garbage at a fairly adequate frequency



yeah that a pretty funny response until you realize that every capitalist economy is predicated almost entirely on the production of stupid plastic garbage being centralized and not free

#130
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keep in mind that this technology will very soon be used to print circuit boards
#131
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Look, i really hate to be a buzzkill, but Spontaneous Socialist Revolution is like, totally not going to happen guys.

An equal, rational society will not emerge from under the fist of Capitalism until socially irrevocable advances in technology inevitably erode and undermine the false scarcity-creating mechanisms and constantly (and expensively) maintained structures that furtively keep the corrupt, eterna-dying corpse god of Capital on life support. Post scarcity society FTW! 420 eat my own sterilized reconstituted shit every day
#132
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whatever you say dude, to me it just looks like a really expensive guitar pick maker!
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Superabound posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:
It just goes to show the worthlessness of science imo. It just shits me that people sperg out about dumb shit like 3D printing ("oh wow a machine that crafts things! what's a lathe?") like it's the second coming of Christy.

lol if you think 3d printing is anything like a lathe. thats fucking superlol

the ubiquitous and completely distributed/democratized manufacturing of cheap consumer plastics is going to completely destabilize the Chinese market and literally destroy millions of trademarks in one fell swoop and its going to be hilarious

this is seriously the one "new" thing that its completely dumb to smugly underplay about. *talks about workers owning the means of production* *poo-poos the first thing that ever comes along to actually make that possible*



Zzzz not impressed, prostitutes own the means of production and it's the oldest profession in the world.

#134
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:
Zzzz not impressed, prostitutes own the means of production and it's the oldest profession in the world.



and yet, the vast majority of a clearly highly profitable commodity is given away for free

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Superabound posted:
keep in mind that this technology will very soon be used to print circuit boards



that's kind of iffy at best. the best that things like the reprap or the makerbot can do right now is milling out the copper traces or using a sharpy as an etch resist but even then the circuit board density is fairly low.

#136
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su·per/ˈso͞opər a·bound/əˈbound/
Verb:

1. Exist in large numbers or amounts.
2. Much like your posting.
#137
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Hurricane_Faggot posted:

Superabound posted:
keep in mind that this technology will very soon be used to print circuit boards

that's kind of iffy at best. the best that things like the reprap or the makerbot can do right now is milling out the copper traces or using a sharpy as an etch resist but even then the circuit board density is fairly low.



ok now imagine its 50 years from now

#138
http://bit.ly/1Jzhh7M
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Superabound posted:

Hurricane_Faggot posted:

Superabound posted:
keep in mind that this technology will very soon be used to print circuit boards

that's kind of iffy at best. the best that things like the reprap or the makerbot can do right now is milling out the copper traces or using a sharpy as an etch resist but even then the circuit board density is fairly low.

ok now imagine its 50 years from now



does technology necessarily advance with time?

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Superabound posted:

Hurricane_Faggot posted:

Superabound posted:
keep in mind that this technology will very soon be used to print circuit boards

that's kind of iffy at best. the best that things like the reprap or the makerbot can do right now is milling out the copper traces or using a sharpy as an etch resist but even then the circuit board density is fairly low.

ok now imagine its 50 years from now



i'm worried that things are going to shit and the industrial capacity to even make the parts to put on the board is gone 50 years from now

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1488 posted:
does technology necessarily advance with time?



depends on the timescale youre sampling

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1488 posted:

Superabound posted:

Hurricane_Faggot posted:

Superabound posted:
keep in mind that this technology will very soon be used to print circuit boards

that's kind of iffy at best. the best that things like the reprap or the makerbot can do right now is milling out the copper traces or using a sharpy as an etch resist but even then the circuit board density is fairly low.

ok now imagine its 50 years from now

does technology necessarily advance with time?



yes, so long as we can avoid the oncoming muslim dark ages

#142
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TENGA is fucked lol!! lol
#143
Mike Nelson here.
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I already have the ability to build anything I want from plastic. It's called Lego. There is a pretty big adult Lego community. Join us on IRC at #legonnaires
#144
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Star Trek replicators can create anything by breaking down atoms into their component parts, using those parts to configure new atoms, arranging them into molecules, and then inserting those molecules into the final object. It is virtually identical to the teleportation technology. The 3D printer really does nothing substantial whatsoever to advance us closer to that sort of ability.
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Superabound posted:
ok now imagine its 50 years from now



3D PRINTING STILL GAY AS HELL lol

#146
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we are truly living in the diamond age
#147
Kurdt
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when i ws a little kid i went to the zoo and got a hot molded plastic ape made right before mein eyes and it was a life changing experience
#148
Kurdt
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mainly the effect of polymer fume inhalation
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#150
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eternal_virtue posted:
Star Trek replicators can create anything by breaking down atoms into their component parts, using those parts to configure new atoms, arranging them into molecules, and then inserting those molecules into the final object. It is virtually identical to the teleportation technology. The 3D printer really does nothing substantial whatsoever to advance us closer to that sort of ability.



i dont think anyone is saying that its anything like that. but you dont need magic space nanoforges to crash the cheap consumer plastics market.

just think about what mp3s did to the CD industry, and imagine what a similar situation would look like when applied to consumer plastics as a whole

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How many items do you own that are 100% plastic?
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eternal_virtue posted:
How many items do you own that are 100% plastic?




lots.

how many things have you thrown away just because a piece of the plastic was broken? how many brackets, casings, compartment covers, containers, etc.

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over 9000
#154
lies half the time
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Superabound posted:
just think about what mp3s did to the CD industry, and imagine what a similar situation would look like when applied to consumer plastics as a whole




happy meal industry fixing to go down the tubes

#155
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Hot molded plastic grape

Why didnt i think of that.

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#156
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Lucrative My Little Pony Doll Printing Exercise
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Superabound posted:

eternal_virtue posted:
Star Trek replicators can create anything by breaking down atoms into their component parts, using those parts to configure new atoms, arranging them into molecules, and then inserting those molecules into the final object. It is virtually identical to the teleportation technology. The 3D printer really does nothing substantial whatsoever to advance us closer to that sort of ability.

i dont think anyone is saying that its anything like that. but you dont need magic space nanoforges to crash the cheap consumer plastics market.

just think about what mp3s did to the CD industry, and imagine what a similar situation would look like when applied to consumer plastics as a whole



I think it was solid state memory, cheap bandwidth and increased hard drive capacity that actually killed the cd industy, an industry that very much still exists. Mp3 compression was just an enabler for a new era of mass produced audio reproduction trinkets.

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Solid state memory really seemed to matter more than anything from my perspective because I remember the first few waves of mp3 players were not that well received until you hit that 3rd generation of iPod. I think my first iPod was something like $300 and then 3 years later you could get a nano or shuffle for somewhere around $100. Once the nano and shuffle hit I started seeing iPods everywhere and people were using more than just kazaa or napster. A lot of smart and cheap people I know would not put in the effort of downloading a full album and just downloaded single songs. A lot of people kind of do that now with youtube
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Transient_Grace posted:
I think it was solid state memory, cheap bandwidth and increased hard drive capacity that actually killed the cd industy, an industry that very much still exists. Mp3 compression was just an enabler for a new era of mass produced audio reproduction trinkets.



yeah it still exists but when was the last time you actually bought a cd?

but what im trying to get at here is the increasing complete unenforcability of copyright law. CAD files are going to end up being traded like mp3s. As i mentioned before, people right now are spending $436 million dollar on iPhone cases every year. That JUST cases, JUST for iPhones. This technology is eventually going to eat into so many sectors of the consumer market its ridiculous. Other than the initial costs for the 3d printing equipment (which will likely follow a similar price curve as normal printers) and the cost of the printing medium (which would surely be less than the margined-the-hell out store prices of whatever objects you were printing), people will be getting millions of dollars worth of plastic goods for free. And how many child factory slaves will that liberate across the third world? I mean yeah, we'll probably have to keep a few around to build all the 3d printers but hey, you gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette.

and i dont know if its been mentioned yet, but this same technology can also be used for metal parts: http://www.bathsheba.com/sculpt/process/

theres a couple of companies even starting to make poured on-site housing using automated concrete jets that work similar to 3d printers.

i honestly think this will end up being the most significant development in how goods are produced worldwide since the mechanized assembly line

#160
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i honestly think you are one of the top 3 boring posters in lf but the difference between those opinions is i'm probably not wrong like you