le_nelson_mandela_face posted:shriekingviolet posted:
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:
wots ur alternative tho
join an actual revolutionary socialist organization ¯\(._.)/¯
and then do what
VERY CAREFULLY
cars posted:or, Like, work with & within communities to help provide that which oppression denies their members, such as helping prisoners get books they want to read that have been de facto banned from prison libraries, demonstrating socialism as a living, breathing force in the world in the many places where capitalist crisis has allowed sympathy with revolutionary aims to bloom
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/jun/09.htm
Ruzbihan posted:shriekingviolet posted:
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:
wots ur alternative tho
join an actual revolutionary socialist organization ¯\(._.)/¯
The problem is that what we have in North Amerika are microsects, not mass parties or a base. In the absence of those we can’t do much beyond embarrassing bourgeois functionaries at dinner.
cars posted:Ruzbihan posted:
The problem is that what we have in North Amerika are microsects, not mass parties or a base. In the absence of those we can’t do much beyond embarrassing bourgeois functionaries at dinner.
or, Like, work with & within communities to help provide that which oppression denies their members, such as helping prisoners get books they want to read that have been de facto banned from prison libraries, demonstrating socialism as a living, breathing force in the world in the many places where capitalist crisis has allowed sympathy with revolutionary aims to bloom. or you could donate to get a geriatric, who ghosted Matt Taibbi for being too radical, into a position where he re-endorses bombing Damascus into fish tank pebbles but still loses a national election in the United States, then contract fail aids and die, there’s a lot of options really.
what my friend Ruzbihan is getting at I think is that the number of self-proclaimed “revolutionary socialist” organizations actually working with and within communities in any meaningful sense is something approaching zero. not to denigrate the orgs who do, but there are plenty more running around touting the importance of mass-based work abstractly while doing little of it in practice, with maybe the bare bones of a blankets for the homeless drive (ie collectively donating thru a pre-existing ngo) type thing every seven months as fig leaf. excuse to write “conducts important mass-work!” in bullet-point on the back of the box.
while many of the orgs that work with and in the communities in a meaningful sense don’t call themselves “revolutionary socialist” at all. they just like, do it.
and, again, no grief to those who do such work and claim the title. im just saying there’s lotsa groupings that claim the title with no business doing so, and it can be a black hole for self-avowed socialists who want to contribute materially.
elias posted:Ruzbihan posted:shriekingviolet posted:
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:
wots ur alternative tho
join an actual revolutionary socialist organization ¯\(._.)/¯
The problem is that what we have in North Amerika are microsects, not mass parties or a base. In the absence of those we can’t do much beyond embarrassing bourgeois functionaries at dinner.
cars posted:Ruzbihan posted:
The problem is that what we have in North Amerika are microsects, not mass parties or a base. In the absence of those we can’t do much beyond embarrassing bourgeois functionaries at dinner.
or, Like, work with & within communities to help provide that which oppression denies their members, such as helping prisoners get books they want to read that have been de facto banned from prison libraries, demonstrating socialism as a living, breathing force in the world in the many places where capitalist crisis has allowed sympathy with revolutionary aims to bloom. or you could donate to get a geriatric, who ghosted Matt Taibbi for being too radical, into a position where he re-endorses bombing Damascus into fish tank pebbles but still loses a national election in the United States, then contract fail aids and die, there’s a lot of options really.
what my friend Ruzbihan is getting at I think is that the number of self-proclaimed “revolutionary socialist” organizations actually working with and within communities in any meaningful sense is something approaching zero. not to denigrate the orgs who do, but there are plenty more running around touting the importance of mass-based work abstractly while doing little of it in practice, with maybe the bare bones of a blankets for the homeless drive (ie collectively donating thru a pre-existing ngo) type thing every seven months as fig leaf. excuse to write “conducts important mass-work!” in bullet-point on the back of the box.
while many of the orgs that work with and in the communities in a meaningful sense don’t call themselves “revolutionary socialist” at all. they just like, do it.
and, again, no grief to those who do such work and claim the title. im just saying there’s lotsa groupings that claim the title with no business doing so, and it can be a black hole for self-avowed socialists who want to contribute materially.
which doesn’t mean “we can’t do much beyond embarrassing bourgeois functionaries at dinner”. Imo.
cars posted:like, if you’re in a group & you want to help get books into prisons, you can figure out how to do it pretty easily.
Tattoo all of Settlers to your body and then get arrested for a felony.
-J. Sakai
swampman posted:Update, had to listen to an extremely high 20 year old anarchist say the words "authoritarian communists" about 600 times in a row at 1am. I hate praxis now.
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