#161

angelbutt_dollface posted:

Makeshift_Swahili posted:

ive always thought this would go good with the curb your enthusiasm treatment



https://goo.gl/HIw7Je

#162
if ur tpaine doll doesnt just spontaneously scream SHHAAAUUUUNNNNN what are u even doing
#163

angelbutt_dollface posted:

https://goo.gl/HIw7Je



lol

#164

tpaine posted:

i'd love to read a real takedown of my disproof of god. i spent years on it so if anyone here can disprove i'd love to hear it. you can't, because it's rock solid.



Sounds like an easy mission. Platonism is a correct account of reality. God is real, but all forms of Abrahamism are false and those religions should be abandoned.

#165
sam harris has embraced iq race science as of today
#166

Gibbonstrength posted:

In the second installment, I’ll be making the case that Sam Harris is not only a fraud, but also a white supremacist. See you then!

guess its a very easy case to make now.

#167
#168

angelbutt_dollface posted:

https://goo.gl/HIw7Je



still the best snipe in the history of the forums

#169
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/5/18/15655638/charles-murray-race-iq-sam-harris-science-free-speech

n an episode that runs nearly two and a half hours, Harris, who is best known as the author of The End of Faith, presents Murray as a victim of “a politically correct moral panic” — and goes so far as to say that Murray has no intellectually honest academic critics. Murray’s work on The Bell Curve, Harris insists, merely summarizes the consensus of experts on the subject of intelligence.

The consensus, he says, is that IQ exists; that it is extraordinarily important to life outcomes of all sorts; that it is largely heritable; and that we don’t know of any interventions that can improve the part that is not heritable. The consensus also includes the observation that the IQs of black Americans are lower, on average, than that of whites, and — most contentiously — that this and other differences among racial groups is based at least in part in genetics.

Harris is not a neutral presence in the interview. “For better or worse, these are all facts,” he tells his listeners. “In fact, there is almost nothing in psychological science for which there is more evidence than for these claims.” Harris belies his self-presentation as a tough-minded skeptic by failing to ask Murray a single challenging question. Instead, during their lengthy conversation, he passively follows Murray to the dangerous and unwarranted conclusion that black and Hispanic people in the US are almost certainly genetically disposed to have lower IQ scores on average than whites or Asians — and that the IQ difference also explains differences in life outcomes between different ethnic and racial groups.
#170
sam harris's latest two and a half hour podcast on iq
#171
mods rename thread to Sam Harris Is A Nazi
#172
speaking of junk science around IQ https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/05/researchers-find-dozens-of-genes-associated-with-measures-of-intelligence/
#173
Hi there!

Love the site, and this story in particular.

I have linked to this story in the latest Suggested Readings List on my blog Daily Dirt Diaspora. You can find it here: http://dailydirtdiaspora.blogspot.ca/

Cheers!
yer old pal Jerky
#174

jerkyleboeuf posted:

Hi there!

Love the site, and this story in particular.

I have linked to this story in the latest Suggested Readings List on my blog Daily Dirt Diaspora. You can find it here: http://dailydirtdiaspora.blogspot.ca/

Cheers!
yer old pal Jerky


#175

jerkyleboeuf posted:



paging tpaine to this gosh darn thread

#176
I'd like to apologize for my old pal Jerky.... they forgot the moratorium on sunshine here at Goth HQ
#177
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#178
pobody's nerfect
#179
Sorry, I'm new here. Just wanted to let the author know that I'd linked to his story (and hope it gets him at least a few new eyeballs). In the spirit of things, I'll try to be snarky.

TPain, Swampman... do we know each other? It's possible. I was the sole content provider (hired gun) for a newsletter/website, The Daily Dirt, which had a frighteningly large audited readership circa 1999-2006 (heyday 2001/2002).

About "the Russia thing"... is that topic verboten here? What's the deal? I can't imagine there are too many Trump fans here.

YOPJ
#180
HEeeeeelp
#181
This made my day

YOPB
#182
Oy vey...
#183
Yeah, I listened and it was pretty fucking disgusting.

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/5/18/15655638/charles-murray-race-iq-sam-harris-science-free-speechn an episode that runs nearly two and a half hours, Harris, who is best known as the author of The End of Faith, presents Murray as a victim of “a politically correct moral panic” — and goes so far as to say that Murray has no intellectually honest academic critics. Murray’s work on The Bell Curve, Harris insists, merely summarizes the consensus of experts on the subject of intelligence.

The consensus, he says, is that IQ exists; that it is extraordinarily important to life outcomes of all sorts; that it is largely heritable; and that we don’t know of any interventions that can improve the part that is not heritable. The consensus also includes the observation that the IQs of black Americans are lower, on average, than that of whites, and — most contentiously — that this and other differences among racial groups is based at least in part in genetics.

Harris is not a neutral presence in the interview. “For better or worse, these are all facts,” he tells his listeners. “In fact, there is almost nothing in psychological science for which there is more evidence than for these claims.” Harris belies his self-presentation as a tough-minded skeptic by failing to ask Murray a single challenging question. Instead, during their lengthy conversation, he passively follows Murray to the dangerous and unwarranted conclusion that black and Hispanic people in the US are almost certainly genetically disposed to have lower IQ scores on average than whites or Asians — and that the IQ difference also explains differences in life outcomes between different ethnic and racial groups.


#184

roseweird posted:

i upvoted jerky for being so positive and likeable but then i read his thing

Speaking of malevolent bad faith actors with sinister ulterior motives and an inexplicably large and vocal American fan base, how about them Russians?! The Daily Beast's excellent overview of America's long history of having sincere attempts at rapprochement backfire spectacularly, titled How Moscow's Spies Keep Duping America Over and Over Again, is both fascinating and chilling. It's enough to make you wonder which evil genius magician managed to convince so many ostensible Trump "foes" that there's nothing to the whole Russia thing, when the Russia thing is fucking HUGE, man, in all its ugly glory. Trump is covered in sucker marks from all the tentacles the Kremlin, Russian organized crime, the oligarchs (same dif) and all those weird Central Asian post-Soviet kleptocratic petrostates have wrapped around him. And yet we have self-styled lefties and Democrats screaming to stop talking about Russia. It's a testament to the New Fascist International's insanely powerful, nest level propaganda skills, that's for goddamn sure.



vote changed to dark Like (downvote)

#185

jerkyleboeuf posted:

About "the Russia thing"... is that topic verboten here? What's the deal?



lurk a few more months

#186
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#187

jerkyleboeuf posted:

About "the Russia thing"... is that topic verboten here? What's the deal? I can't imagine there are too many Trump fans here.

YOPJ


Hating Trump doesn't obligate us to buy into all the Russian shit. We're communists, so we sort of go our own way.

#188
Jorky le bay actually owns probably.
#189
Don't be mean to Jormy just because he thinks trump is a kremin puppet. I want to read his posts more.
#190
Well jeez, if you're communists then you can't have too much love in your heart for Vladimir Putin... can you?

Or does anything that destabilizes the neoliberal status quo feel like a win somehow?

Is there some sort of a suggested reading list for therHizzonE? I'd be interested to see it if one exists.

I earned a BA in philosophy and English lit in 1993, so I've got a handle on the basic Western canon. Lately, I've enjoyed some of what Zizek has written, although he occasionally suffers from the Continental disorder of engineered obscurantism. Any suggestions for a sincerely interested newbie? One willing to potentially be swayed farther left than democratic socialism?

YOPJ



ilmdge posted:

jerkyleboeuf posted:

About "the Russia thing"... is that topic verboten here? What's the deal? I can't imagine there are too many Trump fans here.

YOPJ

Hating Trump doesn't obligate us to buy into all the Russian shit. We're communists, so we sort of go our own way.


#191
Jerky: I'm locked into an endless and violet power struggle with the liar and thief "Swampman" due to he called me not funny 16 months ago but for so long as I have influence here, I will protect you

Regards,
The Respected "Keven"
#192
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#193
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#194
Well Keven, you've already made me laugh out loud twice today, so I'd say you've got the "funny" thing down.

And yet I still can't shake the feeling that I've stumbled across the part of the web reserved for David Lynch style, disorientation-sparking tonal shifts and mind-fucks.

Y'all are different, that's for sure.

YOPJ
#195
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#196
welcome Mr Kyle Boeuf
#197
That "comedy gold" thing is sarcasm, by the way (even though I do think it's funny and an irony worth pointing out). And I label any graphic I make for the blog "info-graphic" so I can find them all at once, via site search, later.

I'll stop signing my posts and start lurking now.

roseweird posted:

https://dailydirtdiaspora.blogspot.ca/2017/05/triple-d-photo-phunnies.htmlLabels: Comedy Gold, Info Graphic


#198
Lurk more and you will.find the rhizzone is like having friends

YOPB
#199
Can we make a sincerity sub-forum this is fun
#200

Belphegor posted:

Can we make a sincerity sub-forum this is fun


a finger curls up on the monkey's paw: https://www.rhizzone.net/forum/9/