didn't listen long enough to tell if it is real, but I can tell you that 'yakety sax' is playing throughout the background of every part I checked.
marlax78 posted:very disappointed that chapo trap house rejected black nationalism. i am very surprised. i did not see that one coming.
lol what did they say? they've been good so far at not punching left (though usually they avoid this by only talking about bernie sanders or the dsa or whatever). more than a few of their guests and or twitter chums get clowned enough for the whole cast for doing that and i thought they caught on.
idk the whole thing was a bit on the nose and there were more than a couple sus 'baby with the bathwater' statements but i agree with the overall idea
i mean - correct me if i'm wrong here - but isn't the marxist position that nationalism is something that is, at most, tolerated because it is of instrumental use? like wasn't lenin's entire point that it was a useful fiction to be transcended rather than essentialized?
solzhesnitchin posted:i mean - correct me if i'm wrong here - but isn't the marxist position that nationalism is something that is, at most, tolerated because it is of instrumental use? like wasn't lenin's entire point that it was a useful fiction to be transcended rather than essentialized?
maybe in like 1917, grandpa
solzhesnitchin posted:it was basically just an entire show of them throwing down the gauntlet vs. identity politics. nationalism, privilege and appropriation discourse were denounced as being part of that
idk the whole thing was a bit on the nose and there were more than a couple sus 'baby with the bathwater' statements but i agree with the overall idea
i mean - correct me if i'm wrong here - but isn't the marxist position that nationalism is something that is, at most, tolerated because it is of instrumental use? like wasn't lenin's entire point that it was a useful fiction to be transcended rather than essentialized?
i agree with them taking the piss out of contemporary liberal discourse surrounding identity politics, cultural appropriation, privilege, or whatever, which is what they mostly did. (albeit, i'm nonetheless skeptical of where they're coming from... like they associate, like most liberals, 'black nationalism' with 'black separatism'.)
however, your implication that nationalism is a 'useful fiction' is definitely not the marxist-leninist position. your claim would be like saying "class is a useful fiction to be transcended". nations are real & and the division of the world into oppressor and oppressed nations is real. i could give you lenin quotes about its significance. there's no logical contradiction between wanting to transcend nations, and recognizing they're "essential" to the reproduction of capitalism and that they are the principal contradiction under capitalism-imperialism.
i used to prank this forum with early Lenin quotes where he argues against national identity, for instance against education of non-Russians living in Russia in their native tongues, but those come from a time before there was a USSR capable of assisting national struggles, by which time his position had evolved based on undeniable historical developments in the intervening years.
the reason i know those Lenin articles is because back when i was an undergrad i did a small project on the Black Panthers that talked about how the Soviet policy approach to strengthening national identity within the union in part helped define those cultures in a way now taken for granted by Western academics, like, those academics talk about elements of being Kazakh or Uzbek as though they had medieval origins that were only permitted to emerge as part of the Soviet Union under pro-national policies.
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cars posted:i used to prank this forum with early Lenin quotes where he argues against national identity,
there's a good article on the evolution of the bolshevik's stance towards national minorities here if anyone is interested: http://isreview.org/issue/100/anti-imperial-marxism
littlegreenpills posted:le_nelson_mandela_face posted:did anybody catch that thing about when khamsek was crashing with red kahina the former refused to flush the toilet
i expected this to be a link to this
tears posted:been listening to the war nerd podcast, its good. Also listened to Rania kHalek's podcast where she talks about how she lost her job and almost her entire career because she changed her mind on syria based on facts and evidence and going there to see for herself. I think its pretty rough how a certain section of the paranoid schizophrenic left declared how changing your mind on syria is impossible and that this is definatly a psyop and how she is worse than, uhh, hitler maybe, idk
it's impossible to trust anything anymore unless you see it yourself, except people's opinions of completely trivial things, which is why i live in a cave and only listen to people talk about video games
solzhesnitchin posted:it was basically just an entire show of them throwing down the gauntlet vs. identity politics. nationalism, privilege and appropriation discourse were denounced as being part of that
idk the whole thing was a bit on the nose and there were more than a couple sus 'baby with the bathwater' statements but i agree with the overall idea
which ep was this?
Mannex posted:which ep was this?
Episode 85 - The Appropriators feat. Shuja Haider (2/22/17)
idk i can never listen past the point where the really nerd-voiced guy goes on a tear
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kamelred posted:idk i can never listen past the point where the really nerd-voiced guy goes on a tear
you're gonna to have to be more specific
kamelred posted:idk i can never listen past the point where the really nerd-voiced guy goes on a tear
You are on the wrong web forum then my dude
roseweird posted:i clicked a link in this thread just now
how can anyone listen to this stuff
whst the hrll
sorry
i tried twice and i only got like a minute in, i don't get it, it's like listening to npr. which i also only heard a few times while in the us but each time i did i could feel my throat closing up as i started going into anaphylactic shock
cth are mostly just very very good at making talk radio and talk about a lot of things i'm interested in. for me that outweighs many negatives like the npr tone
if anyone wants to hear the real bad shit - the absolutely unbearable sub-npr garbage - you have to listen to the jacobin radio podcast. it is something else
Chthonic_Goat_666 posted:
i think you should have actually linked to this one:
reiyashi 53 points 1 day ago
i'm in a poly relationship that started failing after it turned out 90% of our living expenses were being spent to sustain the Cum Town bank balances
this woman died a few days ago, she was a cool cat; thats a podcast she did and this was her blog
https://degreeofuncertainty.wordpress.com/
also helps if you aggressively avoid making eye contact or conversation with any women who show up at your meetings
though i find myself occasionally wondering if they really are just russian propagandists, because if i were one i would do and say basically everything they do. well except for all the talking about russia
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