#601
Stalin: Jestem ordynarny /ros."grubyj"/ i chcę jasno wiedzieć czy chcecie się bic czy toż nie.
Stalin: I am vulgar (rus "грубый) and I want to know plainly if <the soldiers> themselves want to fight or if they don't.

i have not been able to find any sources attesting to stalin being able to speak polish, and the note specifically stating that stalin called himself ”грубый" says to me this specifically is a translation from a conversation in russian to a transcript in polish.

so that's another consideration to add to the pile regarding the primary source document.
#602

Horselord posted:

is there any other topic of history where this sort of creative "reinterpretation" of sources is tolerated as much as it is when the topic is communism? because this shit is shameful. like "oh the source didn't say it but he was totally pretending, we all know that's what he'd do rite???" man fuck off w/that. what other history is bullshit


lol. I am currently enjoying this thread.

Swampman did not transcribe the entire book, but "psychologizing" is one way, as Professor Furr said in a later chapter, that the lies about the Soviet Union and Stalin are spread.

It just shows how history is falsified. We should thank Grover Furr for writing such history (such as Blood Lies) where he lets the primary source documents with a reasonable translation do much of the work.

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#603

Panopticon posted:

the "modifications" were by an author i didn't cite. the extract i posted at the top of page 14 doesn't say anything about feigning surprise.


no, but it does make the specific and important error of misinterpreting a speculative statement (maybe they went to manchuria) as a definitive one (they're in manchuria)...

Panopticon posted:

i also don't need to bend over backwards to invent reasonable excuses for stalin lying through his teeth.


...which leads to ridiculous claims like this. the only ones bending over backwards to invent history are those who insist on attributing nefarious intentions to stalin at every opportunity. can you really not see how much you are reading into the twice-translated record of this conversation? i don't understand this beef.

#604
i attribute nefarious intention to stalin because he explicitly said they'd been freed when the later story was that the camp was overrun and the officers captured. stalin was clearly lying.

"Stalin. They have certainly been freed, but have not yet arrived."
#605
Good lord. So the problem, according to you Stalin lied to Sikorski (you presume deliberately) about the prisoners having been freed. And yet as the transcript shows, Stalin went on in this meeting to agree to literally every one of Sikorski's requests in relation to the welfare of Poles:

  • Polish delegates being allowed access to areas of USSR with large numbers of Polish citizens, with genuine powers to assist them
  • An office of the Delegate of the Embassy to be established in Vladivostok for the distribution of donated warm clothing to Poles
  • Special instructions to be issued to the executive authorities to ensure the release of any remaining Polish prisoners
  • A loan of 100 million rubles to the Polish government for the transfer and care of Polish citizens in USSR


But.... he lied about whether all prisoners has been released already!! What a fucking monster
#606
we should probably all take a moment to remember that as this meeting was taking place on 3rd Dec 1941, the Nazis were 8km from moscow
#607
he executed the prisoners when he thought he was in an alliance with hitler. after hitler invaded he needed the poles. simple stuff.
#608
stalin literally never thought he was in an alliance with hitler. you smile and act friendly to the schoolyard psychopath so he hopefully doesn't beat the shit out of you

everyone know this
#609

Panopticon posted:

he executed the prisoners when he thought he was in an alliance with hitler. after hitler invaded he needed the poles. simple stuff.



Swampman has already posted chapter 7 m8

#610

Panopticon posted:

he executed the prisoners when he thought he was in an alliance with hitler. after hitler invaded he needed the poles. simple stuff.

It's simplified, not simple. The POWs at Katyn were executed because of the Soviet goals in Poland, the officers purged were not needed for the war effort. The Soviets "needed" Poland to begin with, and is arguably why they pursued a NAP with Nazi Germany.

#611
1943 pamphlet of interest cos i got nothing better to do on a day off than clean & digitise katyn stuff



THE POLISH CONSPIRACY
by George Audit



AT Stalingrad the main strategy of Fascist Germany in its bid to conquer the world was brought crashing in ruins.The German plan to deprive the Red Army of its offen-sive power, and then to turn to the West in order to impose a Fascist peace on the world, was decisively routed. Stalingrad and Rostov, El Alamein and Tripoli, created fresh bright prospects of a speedy ending of the war and the complete destruction of Nazi Germany. The Casablanca Conference held out the promise that within the next nine months Britain and America would profit by the opportunity created by the Red Army's winter victories to launch an offensive in Europe “on the widest scale.”

The Second Front was still delayed, and the delay enabled the German army partly to restore its military situation in the South; yet, in spite of this, the Alliance of the democratic peoples against Fascism grew steadily stronger. Such was the situation when the German Government early in 1943 laid its new and well-planned conspiracy to snatch a victory from what appeared to be a desperate position. The conspiracy was planned on so large a scale that no kind of concealment was possible. The basic aim was to recreate throughout the world by a flood of anti-Bolshevik diplomatic activity and propaganda the conditions which had made possible Munich and all other previous Fascist successes; the main weapon was that "bolshevik bogey" which had already served Fascism so well.
This point was made very clear by Joseph Stalin in his 1943 May Day Order of the Day:-

"To judge from reports in the foreign press, one can con-clude that the Germans would like to obtain peace with Britain and the U.S.A. on the condition that the latter break with the Soviet Union; or, on the contrary, that they would like to obtain peace with the Soviet Union on the condition that it breaks with Britain and the U.S.A. Treacherous to the marrow them-selves, the German imperialists have the insolence to measure the Allies by their own yardstick, expecting one or other of the Allies to swallow the bait.”

The plot hatched by Goebbels to save Germany from total defeat aimed at nothing less than the mobilisation of all reaction-ary elements in Europe-and a11 the dark forces throughout the world that feared the results of Hitler's defeat-with the object first of delaying the Allied blow in the West and, secondly, of arranging a peace that would make the world safe for Fascism.


How was this aim to be achieved?

In the first place by a foreign diplomacy and Press and Radio campaign concentrating on three main themes: “the defence of European civilisation against Bolshevism”; the impregnability of Germany's defences in the West; the impossibility of the Allied Nations becoming sufficiently united to defeat Germany for many years to come.

In the second place, by a concentration of Nazi propaganda fire against the known weak places in the structure of the democratic alliance. The battles of 1942 and 1943 had proved that the "invincible German soldiers" were very far from invincible; the invincible German liars of Goebbels' Propaganda Ministry were called on to see if they could do better.

The main instrument in the plot was the propaganda machine which Goebbels controlled - the most dangerous ever possessed by any tyranny in the history of mankind. All its resources were set to work. The whole Press of Fascist-occupied Europe, the hundreds of broadcasting stations sending out “one o'clock news” and “nine o'clock news" to Europe's 350 million people, applied themselves day and night to this one end. At least a dozen “news” agencies, and powerful short-wave stations broadcasting a non-stop service to Africa, India, the Near East, the Far East, South America, the United States and Australia, carried the poison abroad.


Earlier incidents: Polish blackmail attempts against the Soviet Union.

In order to understand the full significance of the act by the Polish Government which caused the breach, it is necessary to re-view briefly earlier Polish attempts to extort territorial concessions from the Soviet Union. Little more than a month earlier the Polish Government in London, and its agents in Allied countries, started an agitation for the settlement of its claims to the Western Ukraine and Western Byelorussia. These are non-Polish territories, the one a part of the Soviet Byelorussian Republic and the other a part of the Soviet Ukrainian Republic. Filched from the Soviet Union by the imperialist Pilsudski in 1920, at the period of the young Soviet Republic's weakness, they were restored to the Soviet Union by the Red Army in 1939, when the government of Rydz-Smigly and Colonel Beck had fled from Poland into hospitable Rumania, leaving their country undefended against the Nazi hordes. The Polish Government chose recently to announce, at a critical time when the Sovlet Union was still bearing almost the entire weight of the struggle on land against Nazi Germany, that 3 it considered the Polish-Soviet agreement concluded in 1941 as maintaining the territorial status quo of 1939.

Polish duplicity in relation to the Soviet Union is of long standing. When in 1920 the Soviet Government made an offer of peace to the Poles, the Poles expressed willingness to enter into negotiations; but this is what Count Skrzynski, Polisli. Foreign Minister, had to say of this in his book, “Poland and Peace”:-

"The Soviet proposals were not given any serious consideration . . . When, however, parliamentary and democratic policy did not permit them to be left without an answer, the question of the place wl).ere the negotiations might be held was raised in such an offensive spirit that the whole question was stopped at that point.”

This is what the late H. H. Asquith said in the House of Commons on August 10th, 1920, about the Polish-Russian situation at that time:-

"There was Poland six months ago, a population stricken with disease and famine, and, it is not an exaggeration to say, on the verge of national qankruptcy, and it was under these circum-stances that she started this campaign. Her avowed object was to get rid of the comparatively limited frontier, not an ungenerous frontier. . . and to go beyond it to the ancient boundaries of Poland of 1772.
As I say, it was a purely aggressive adventure. It was a wanton enterprise.”

Even at the time of the signing of the Soviet-Polish agreement, when hope was widely felt and expressed that the Polish Govern-ment had determined on a good-neighbourly policy towards the Soviet Union, there were elements in the Polish emigre Government in London which fought to prevent the signing of the agreement. The Polish War Minister, General Sosnkowski, resigned when the agreement was signed, and - such was the strength of the elements he represented-was at once offered another high position by Sikorski.

Throughout the entire period since the signing of this agreement the Polish Press has continuously published remarks which might have come straight from the pen of Dr. Goebbels. Mysl Polska, organ of the Polish National Party, a paper which scarcely troubles to disguise its anti-Soviet policy and publishes open anti-semitism of a nature that would cause any English newspaper to be suppressed, writes the following, for example:-

"The entry of the U.S.S.R. into Europe would create grounds for eternal conflict. Russia is a Eurasian not a European Empire.”


The Alter and Ehrlich anti-Soviet agitation

During February and March, 1943, Polish emigre politicians both in Britain and America conducted a widespread campaign 4 to rouse public indignation against the execution of two Polish Bundists, Alter and Ehrlich. In Britain this agitation had only a limited success.It was possible, however, for the Polish elements leading the campaign to hold a public meeting in London attended by 500 people in memory and honour of these two Polish would-be quislings who were executed for spreading propaganda among the Soviet troops in favour of a separate peace-and this, too, in December, 1941, during the most critical period of the Red Army's single-handed struggle with German Fascism. In America the agitation was worked up to greater proportions and such diverse elements as the Hearst Press, the Wall Street Journal, and certain American isolationists and leaders of the American Federation of Labour rushed to take part in it. The Polish National Council in London saw fit to issue a statement denying the treachery of Alter and Ehrlich and raising doubts as to "the fate of those thousands of Polish citizens deported to the depths of Russia concerning whom the Soviet authorities have not yet given sufficient explanation.”


Ground softened for Goebbels

It was in this way that the ground was softened for the new bid to wreck the unity of the Allied camp which the German Propaganda Ministry made on April 11th this year. On this day the German Transocean agency launched its masterpiece of anti-Soviet fabrication against the weakest spot in Allied relationship. It announced; -

“10,000 Polish officers - the entire Polish officer corps - has been discovered shot dead through the nape of the neck in the Katyn Wood near Smolensk. The German military authorities, acting on information supplied by the local population, had excavations conducted at the O.G.P.U. Recreation Home near Smolensk early this month. A mass grave was discovered, 28 m. by 16 m., in which, in twelve layers, 3.000 Polish officers in full uniform were buried face down with their hands tied. They had been shot dead in February and March, 1940. These officers could all be identified as the O.G.P.U. men left credentials on their bodies".

This broadcast did not, of course, explain why the German military authorities, during the period of nearly two years in which they had been in occupation of the Smolensk region, had never before come into possession of this highly useful and convenient “information which was in the hands of the local population". As the Moscow Radio later commented, this Goebbels atrocity story, this "hideous frame-up", came into the world with all the typical hallmarks of a hundred other exposed Gestapo fabrications:-

"With the much-to-fresh bodies of their victims buried in Soviet soil, with their carefully preserved diaries, with their false witnesses and their shady investigators, they have overshot the mark".


Later version of the Smolensk massacre fable

The need appears to have been soon felt in Berlin to tidy up and improve on this first botched-job of a story. During the succeeding days, when all Axis and Axis-controlled radio stations talked of little else the story began to be told in different forms almost from hour to hour.
On April 12th Transocean's Special Correspondent, Robert Broese wrote that he was "able to assure General Sikorski" that he was waiting in vain for the return of 900,000 Polish officers and men...he had just returned from Smolensk, "where no fewer then 10,000 officers lie buried in one grave like dead dogs".

On April 13th the heat was turned full on and the story was put out in endless repetition and with elaborations by the score. The German Home News, at 10 a.m., stated that "the murders were carried out between March and May, 1940, and went on to broadcast the following characteristic details:-

"Less than five hundred yards from the mass graves the Bolsheviks (later "the Bolshevik male and female officials") held orgies. The area had been hedged in barbed wire and was constantly guarded by O.G.P.U. men. To carry out the mass murder the Bolsheviks cleared a part of the wood of trees. Firs were planted on the graves and are now three years old (other broadcaster considered that abandoned vodka bottles provided a more convincing proof of Soviet authorship). The state of decomposition of the bodies agrees with this time check and with the statements of the local population. The wood of Katyn has at last revealed its terrible secret. Jewish bolshevism shows the world its horrible grimace. The discovery of Smolensk is a stirring warning to Europe and a roll-call for an unrelenting struggle against the most terrible enemy humanity has ever encountered."
A comparison of the answers given by the German Press and Radio at different times to various natural questions about the story will prove indisputably where it was concocted.

Who discovered the bodies, and when?

"Polish lumbermen": Minister Braun von Stumm, Spokeman of the German Foreign Office, 13.4.43.

"An old peasant": German Home Service, 16.4.43.

"A German military lieutenant": German Home Service, 14.4.43.

"Early this month": Transocean, 11.4.43.

"The autumn of 1942": Deutschlandsender, 14.4.43.
(What sense of modesty prevented Dr.Goebbels from telling the world for six whole months?)

{It was left to the Editor of the notorious paper Truth to provide the Doctor with an alibi, as follows: "Germany has used the incident with skill. She must have known of the graves in the forest for a long time, but has waited until her diplomats and propagandists regard as the crucial moment to force the present split".}

"The summer of 1942": Deutschlandsender, 14.4.43.

This last account is worth quoting: -
"Four Polish transport men, having heard of the murders from the local people, went into the forest with picks and spades. Shortly afterwards they returned, some utterly broken, and some shaking with indignation, and said they had found the place of the murders. Evacuation began at once (i.e. in the summer of last year) ...wherever one dug there were corpses...all the area between the pits has not been evacuated, but there can be no doubt that the burial place covers the whole hill where new trees have been planted".


Could the bodies be identified?

"Members of the Polish delegation (i.e. Polish quislings brought by the Germans from Warsaw) recognised the faces of many of the high Polish officers whom they knew". - German Home Service, 14.4.43.

"A great stench arises from this mass of partly decomposed and partly mummified humanity...no features could be discerned... even old experienced officers held handkerchiefs before their noses". - Calais in English for England, 14.4.43.

"Several hundred more names": Weichsel Radio, 18.4.43.

"It has been possible to identify 95 per cent of the bodies". - 21.4.43.


How many graves were there?

"A mass grave...in which 3,000 Polish officers in full uniform were buried": Transocean, 11.4.43.

"A mass grave...in which no fewer than 10,000 officers lie buried": Transocean, 12.4.43.

"Six similar graves have been discovered": Donau Radio, 12.4.43.

"Two great mass graves have so far been uncovered": Calais in English for England, 22.4.43.
Finally, a sort of mass grave hysteria seems to have seized on the German liars, and graves began to be discovered from one end of Europe to the other. Mass-graves indeed there are, in every country in Europe where the German Fascists have set their heel, and it has been well known to the whole world for some time who makes these mass graves for the peoples of Europe. Oslo Radio reported on April 21st that "Germans from the Baltic States" had witnessed the opening of a mass grave at Riga, and were able to testify that "the bodies were all members of the upper and middle class, and their fate is a warning of what will happen to those classes in Western Europe if the Bolshevik plague should ever gain the upper hand".

The same source reported the discovery of another grave outside Odessa. Here, too, the same forger's recipe could be recognised; here, too, local inhabitants were suddenly inspired to inform the Rumanian military authorities that "there were O.G.P.U. graves close by", and the Rumanian authorities ordered digging to begin at once. The graves were four years old, it was announced, and contained from 4,000 to 5,000 corpses. (It will readily be recalled that it was at Odessa that one of the worst pogroms of all time was carried out: 50,000 Jews, the entire Jewish population of the town, were put to death by the Gestapo after the Red Army withdrew from the town late in 1941).


Other discrepancies

German propaganda was unable to stick to one story even about precisely how the execution was carried out. In the original version, all the victims were shot neatly and symmetrically through the nape of the neck. But such was the Nazi zeal for inventing convincing detail that before the week had passed at least three different methods were widely stated to have been used, as the following quotations will show: -

"Iinhabitants in the neighbourhood... have stated that for some ten days the rattle of machine-guns and cries of terrified victims could be heard".

"Officers of the Polish General Staff were executed in a particularly cruel manner. They were shackled and then buried alive". "The corpses of the Polish officers showed the evidence of numerous bayonet stabs. These stabs were made with the typical Bolshevik four-edged military bayonet".

The two following statements were broadcast at the same hour on April 23rd: - (l)" Owing to the soil the corpses were mummified. The documents found on the bodies were almost intact because they had been impregnated with the grease of the bodies". (2)"The Polish Red Cross is expected soon to start identifying the bodies. This will be very difficult owing to the advanced stage of decomposition of the victims".


German Foreign Office angles for Polish Government support

During the whole period of the most intense concentration of German propaganda on the Smolensk massacre fable, Minister Braun von Stumm, spokesman of the German Foreign Office, was daily revealing to the Press Conference in Berlin the real purpose behind the story. On April 13th he "reminded correspondents of the Polish calculations that one and a half million Polish refugees and about 10.000 officers had fallen into Soviet hands. Despite pressing Polish inquiries, Moscow had refused to reply. Information on the fate of the 10.000 Polish officers was now being provided by the Germans instead". He added that the murdered Polish officers did not come from the Eastern Polish territories officially claimed by the Soviets, but came mostly from the Cracow and Warsaw districts. "This fact (!) - on the next day the German Home Service reported "so far only 76 cases have been investigated" - was clear proof that the Soviets regard even these territories as of political, in other words annexationist, interest".


Polish Government demands "investigation"

On April 16th, four days after the Nazi propagandists had let their story loose, it was already perfectly clear to all the world what kind of a story this was. The signature of the stage-managers of the Reichstag Fire Trial, of the Polish atrocities against Germans in Western Poland, of the "bolshevik massacres" at Lvov, and hundred more forgeries long ago exposed and derided by the free world, was clearly written over whole insidious tale. A Soviet statement issued on the previous day had summed up what was the general public reaction to the story throughout the world: -

"Beyond doubt Goebbels' slanderers are now trying by lies and calumnies to cover up the bloody crimes of the Hitlerite gangsters".

It seems likely, therefore, that the story would be allowed to run for a week or two, and replaced as soon as some fresher invention was ready to take its place in German propaganda. This, indeed, would certainly have been its fate, and it would have achieved nothing more than the further discrediting of its inventors, had not the Polish Government suddenly decided to accept Goebbels' story at its face value, and to use it for its own hostile campaign against the Soviet. On April 16th the Polish official newspaper in London, Dziennik Polski, wrote: -

"The fate of the Polish officers who were in the Kozielsk and Starobyelsk camps is unknown, and is the subject of the greatest concern to the Polish people".

Later in the same day the Polish Ministry of National Defence announced that the Polish Government "is asking the International Red Cross to send an investigation committee to Poland to investigate the graves". The communique explained, after a long series of allegations about "disappearance" of certain Polish officers in the Soviet Union, that the "detailed information given by the German necessitates the approach to the Red Cross with a request for an investigation".
Fifty minutes later the Berlin radio came on the air with the news that Hitler also had appealed to the International Red Cross to investigate the graves. And on the following morning Donau Radio stated that "Berlin welcomes the appeal of the Polish emigree Government to the Geneva Red Cross". Many other broadcasts emphasised the "deep satisfaction caused in Germany by the Polish Government's request". As if to place their provocative intentions in no doubt, the Polish National Council followed this up on the next day with a resolution declaring that "it did not believe" the Soviet statement on the reasons for the execution of Erlich and Alter given by the Soviet Information Bureau seven weeks before. The Polish Cabinet, after a meeting held on the same day, stated in an official communique: -

"There is no Pole who would not be deeply shocked by the news of the discovery near Smolensk in a common grave of massacred bodies of the Polish officers missing in the U.S.S.R. and the mass execution of which they have become victims..."


Pravda warning

In a leading article published on April 19th, the following was Pravda's comment on this insulting Polish appeal: -

"Slander spreads quickly... The Polish ministerial circles should have known that this is not the first time that the Hitlerite liars have resorted to this form of pressure on public opinion."
After recalling the full and circumstancial disproof which the Soviet Information Bureau had been able to publish in 1941 concerning the so-called victims of Bolshevik terror at Lvov, Pravda went on:-

"A similar foul piece of Hitlerite provocation has now once again been fabricated. As how now become perfectly clear, the Germans captured former prisoners of war who in 1941 were engaged on building construction in the area west of Smolensk, and who together with many Soviet citizens living in the Smolensk region, fell into the hands of the German Fascist hangmen in the summer of 1941, after the withdrawal of the Soviet troops from the Smolensk area"... The more details they present, even including visiting cards which they themselves put with great foresight into the pockets of the savagely tortured officers, the more clear it becomes that the Hitlerite hangmen are describing their own experience".

"The appeal of the Polish Ministry", Pravda went on, "cannot be regarded as anything but direct and open support of the Hitlerite provocateurs in the fabrication of their foul inventions. The Polish people will turn their backs on them as persons who encourage Hitler, the accursed enemy of Poland".


A success for Goebbels

During the week following April 17th Axis propaganda was whipped up to new hights of fury and mendacity in an attempt to make the very most of this gift from the Polish Government. In Poland the Polish partisans and patriots were fighting the German hordes, wrecking trains daily, ambushing convoys, sabotaging the Nazi factories, fighting in alliance with the Ukrainians, Byelorussians, Jugoslavs and all other Eastern European peoples a deadly battle with the Fascist enslavers. But in London the emigre Polish Government chose just this moment, on the eve of the decisive battles of the war, to volunteer for the anti-bolshevik legion. Many of Polish fighter for freedom inside Poland, hearing on the German radio and in the B.B.C.'s Polish service the full story and attempted justification of the Polish Government's treacherous act, must have determined in his heart that the Polish Junkers and near-Fascists should never be allowed to return to Poland when the struggle against Hitler had been won.

The official British attitude was that all that had happened was a "dispute" between two allied Governments, and this neutral policy was strictly adhered to in all British news broadcasts to Europe, with the exception of the Polish broadcasts which are controlled by the Polish Government. On April 16th the British Foreign Office had already refused to make any comment, on the ground that the matter was the concern only of the two allied Governments. The Times, speaking after the breach, wrote on April 28th: -

"The general abstention from comment during the past ten days has not been sufficient to prevent an open breach, and may even have hastened it by allowing the hidden sore to fester... the action of the Polish Government ten days ago beyond doubt played, in fact though not in intention (!the Polish Government could not have been ignorant of the assistance it was in fact rendering to Germany) directly into German hands and followed precisely the course which German propaganda was designed to dictate".

Speaking in the House of Commons a few days later, the Foreign Secretary summed up the situation with the words: "Least said, soonest mended". Never has there been such a negation of diplomatic action, as this bland assumption that fundamental differences can be dissolved by ignoring them.
When on May 7, M.Vyshinski, Soviet Deputy Commissar for Foreign Affairs, published to the world a detailed statement of espionage activities by Polish diplomats in the U.S.S.R., ostensibly engaged in charitable work among their compatriots, and in addition exposed the duplicity with which the Polish High Command had evaded its military responsibilities on the Soviet front, the Diplomatic Correspondent of The Times described it as regrettable that "a subordinate" should have undone the good impression created by M.Stalin's May Day Order of the Day. Comment of other Diplomatic Correspondents was so similar in character as to suggest that this also was a line suggested from on high.

Certainly Nazi hopes went much further than immediate object of enlisting the support of the Polish Junkers in a joint anti-Soviet campaign. Their object was nothing less than to drive a wedge into the Allied coalition, to gain precious time in which to prepare for the spring battles in the East and the West, and to prepare the ground for a "peace offensive" on a world scale.

It was no coincidence that it was on April 16th, the very day that the Polish National Council sent its request to the International Red Cross, that the most definite peace offer yet made by Fascism was put out on its behalf by the Spanish Foreign Minister, Jordana. Speaking in the presence of the Argentine and Chilean Ambassadors, he stated that it was now quite clear that none of the belligerents could win the war, that the "Western and Central Powers" were exhausting themselves, and that every one of them, including the United States, would fall a "prey to Bolshevism" if the struggle were allowed to continue much longer. He concluded by expressing the willingness of the Spanish Government to mediate between belligerents. The timing of this peace proposal to coincide with the Smolensk massacre agitation and the treachery of the Polish Government in London leaves no room for doubt that this was the climax of the sustained Axis "anti-bolshevik campaign", and that the Polish Government in London played a vital part in the attempt made by German Fascism and its supporters throughout the world to split the Allied camp.

It is interesting to note that on April 21st the official Spanish news agency instructed all Spanish newspapers to publish suitable comment on the Smolensk story, "with special reference to the International Red Cross and the Polish Government in London.”


The Soviet Union exposes the conspiracy

Such was the state of affairs which obliged the Soviet Govern-ment to break off relations with the Polish Government on April 25th. M. Molotov'snote explained that:-

"The Soviet Government considers the recent behaviour of the Polish Government with regard to the U.S.S.R. as entirely abnormal and violating all regulations and standards of relation between two Allied States. The slanderous campaign hostile to the Soviet Union launched by the German Fascists in connection with the murder of the Polish officers which they themselves committed in the Smolensk area on territory occupied by German troops, was at once taken up by the Polish Government and is being fanned in every way by the Polish official press.

“Far from offering a rebuff to the vile Fascist slander of the U .S.S.R. the Polish Government did not even find it necessary to address to the Soviet Government any inquiry or request for an explanation on this subject.. . .

"For the 'investigation' both the Polish Government and the Hitlerite Government invited the International Red Cross, which is compelled, in conditions of a terroristic regime, with its gallows and mass extermination of the peaceful population, to take part in this investigation farce staged by Hitler.. . .

"The fact that the hostile campaign against the Soviet Union commenced simultaneously in the German and Polish press, and was conducted along the same lines, leaves no doubt as to the existence of contact and accord between the enemy of the Allies – Hitler – and the Polish Government “While the people of the Soviet Union, bleeding profusely in a hard struggle against Hitlerite Germany, are straining every effort for the defeat of the common enemy of the Russian and Polish peoples, and of all freedom-loving democratic countries, the Polish Government, to please Hitler's tyranny, has dealt a treacherous blow at the Soviet Union.”

The Note went on to state that the Soviet Government was aware that the real purpose of this Polish collaboration with Hitler was to "wrest from it territorial concessions at the expense of the interests of the Soviet Ukraine, Soviet Bylorussia and Soviet Lithuania.”

“All these circumstances,” the Note concluded, “compel the Soviet Government to recognise that the present Government of Poland having slid on to the path of accord with Hitler's Government, has actually discontinued allied relations with the U.S.S.R., and has adopted a hostile attitude towards the Soviet Union.

“On the strength of the above, the Soviet Government has decided to sever relations with the Polish Government.”


Polish Government reply

The great majority of the British and American Press did not hesitate to condemn the action of the Polish Government. "On two simple counts", said the London Evening Standard, "we believe the Polish Government must be held responsible for the breach. First, they had no right to suppose that a German allegation might contain the truth. Second, they had no right to call for an investigation on territory occupied by the enemy". The Times reminded the Poles that they themselves had been victims of similar allegation from the same source: -

"Surprise as well as regret will be felt that those who have had so much cause to understand the perfidy and ingenuity of the Goebbels propaganda machine should have themselves fallen into the trap laid by it. Poles will hardly have forgotten a volume widely circulated in the first winter of the war which described with every appearance of circumstantial avidence, including that of photography, alleged Polish atrocities against the peaceful German inhabitants of Poland; and this gruesome and fantastic fabrication, neither the first nor the last of its kind, might have deterred them from treating at the face value accusations of a similiar character when directed against others... At no moment of the war, and at no moment of history, have the closest confidence and co-operiation between Britain and Russia been more essential than now".

The viewpoint of the trade unionists of Britain was vigorously expressed at the Scottich Trades Union Congress by Mr.James Campbell, a member of the General Council, who said: -
"I say to the Poles in this country that, if they are going to use their sanctuary here to attack Russia, they will lose the sympathy of the organised working class of Britain, and our answer will be, "You have outstayed your welcome".

Yet the British Press partly disguised the seriousness of the matter by fairly consistently reffering to it as a "dispute between two Governments". The only official comment available in London, even two days after the breach, was that "the Governments of Britain and the United States are endeavouring to alleviate a regrettable situation", and the Washington State Department announced on the same day "without reference to the merits of the matter, and without knowing as yet the full facts, we learn of this development with regret".


The real Poland

The claims of the Sikorski Government to speak for the real Poland were demolished in an article in Izvestia written by Wanda Wassilevska famous Polish writer, Deputy to the Supreme Soviet, and President of the Union of Polish Patriots in the Soviet Union:-

"Whom does this emigre government represent? The Polish people? By no means. The Polish people neither elected, appointed, nor conferred powers on this government. The present Polish Government took over the functions of the remnants of the Rydz-Smigly Government which fled ­from Poland the government of Poland's September defeat. . . .

“We have seen plainly through these people from the very outset. We have known that they differ only outwardly from those who brought disaster on Poland in 1939, that they are bound to these people by thousands of ties, ideological, personal, and traditional. . . .

“The Polish Government has made bargaining for frontiers its main task. But it bargains not for Polish lands occupied by the Germans, but for the land of Soviet Byelorussia, the Soviet Ukraine, and Soviet Lithuania, lands populated by our brother with whom the Polish people want to live in peace. . . . It was for these reasons that we Poles in the U.S.S.R. demanded that we be given an opportunity to take part in the war, arms in hand. When General Anders took his army away to the Middle East we demanded that Polish troops be formed on the territory of the U.S.S.R., which would not stay for months in their tents, but would go to the front to smite the enemy shoulder to shoulder with the Red Army. The friendship of the Polish and Soviet peoples, cemented with blood in the joint struggle, is unshakable.”


Stalin's pledge to Poland

When the Soviet-Polish agreement was signed, Stalin made a solemn statement to Sikorski that the Soviet Government wants to see a strong and independent Poland. The Soviet Government knows, as indeed the whole world must recognise to be the truth, that Poland will owe her liberation when it does come to the efforts of the Red Army, and of the patriots who are at present struggling against the Nazi yoke. Certain it is that if the ultimate aims shared by the German Nazis and the Polish Junker landlords were ever to be realised neither Poland nor any other of the Hitler-enslaved peoples would escape destruction. “A sharp jolt has been given,” as the Manchester Guardian declared on April 29th, “to all of us who complacently thought that the necessity of winning the war would defeat any tendency to dangerous disunity.” The conspiracy to save Fascism has suffered a reverse through the vigilant action of the Soviet Government in exposing some of its hidden friends. But the danger remains, and the people of Britain must in their own interests exercise a vigilance as sharp as that of our Russian allies. They must make it clear that they stand solidly with the Soviet Union against the Nazi-Polish plotters. They should demand that the British Government take up the firmest possible stand against this and any other attempts to drive wedges into the Alliance to destroy Fascism.

Until the decisive joint Anglo-American-Russian offensive is launched against Hitler Europe, until the Second Front is opened, it is certain that fresh plots will be hatched. Where it is a question of behaviour by any elements in the Allied camp which threatens the unity of the forces in this camp, it is impossible for anti-Fascists to take up a neutral attitude. The British people should demand that those exceptional press facilities granted to the Poles in London, and so wantonly abused by them, should be withdrawn. The emigre Government must withdraw the charges it has made, directly and by implication, against the Government of the U.S.S.R., whose heroic struggle provides the only guarantee of the emergence of Poland as a free nation in a free world.
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Printed and Published by HARRISON & SONS, LTD., Hayes, Middlesex, for the Russia Today Society, 150, Southampton Row, W.C.1
MAY, 1943



bolding and italics in original
source: http://digital.kenyon.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014&context=rarebooks

#612
this appears to be a summary of mukhins "infamous" book,

Katyn Massacre and the Polish Officer Corp
Based on the book Katyn Detective, by Y.I. Mukhin 1995

Introduction

In March 1942, Nazi Germany announced that in the Katyn Forest the bodies of executed Polish officers were found. There followed in April 1943 an excavation of the bodies. It was determined that in Katyn there were the bodies of 12 thousand Polish officers. The exhumed bodies were examined by forensic experts from Nazi Germany and an International commission made up of twelve countries. The conclusion of this investigation was without a doubt that the Polish officers had been executed by the Soviet Union in the spring of 1940. In the west the conclusion of this investigation was welcomed as yet another proof of the brutality of the USSR and the evils of communism. By the 1950s, the Nazi evidence on Katyn reemerged in the west as slanderous propaganda to throw against the USSR. In November 1989, the revisionists and anti-communists ruling the USSR admitted that indeed the Polish officers were killed by the Soviets - just before these same revisionists threw the Soviet people into the jaws of fully-blown capitalism, in exchange for a Nobel Prize. Today this same anti-Soviet argument of the Nazis, Western imperialists and Gorbachievite revisionists is repeated over and over by "respected" historians. It is no coincidence, that these same historians that accuse the USSR on lying about Katyn are the same Nazi apologists and Holocaust deniers that accuse the USSR of lying about Auschwitz and about the Holocaust. They go hand in hand.

To pin the blame on the USSR and exult the Nazis, these historians relay on fraudulent methods. They base their argument on the words of the likes of Gorbachiev and Yakovliev, who openly admitted that Katyn was the responsibility of the Soviets. But what was Gorbachiev going to say? That the USSR was telling the truth when it said it was innocent? Of course not. Yakovliev had already proclaimed he had personally reviewed the cases of 60 million executed persons. It is of course strange that today no one has read or can even find these documents, except for Yakovliev himself. The words of these revisionists matter little, today that we know what their intentions were, and why they said what they said. The only ones who take their words seriously are the Nazi sympathizers who accuse the Soviet Union. These "historians" also rely on forged documentation released by the Gorbachieviute gang. Against such opposition it is a right, indeed a duty to stand up against. This article will prove that it is the Nazis that are to blame for Katyn, using physical evidence, eyewitness accounts and documental sources. The truth on Katyn has been known for a long time, but the slanderous propaganda of the Nazi apologist historians of today has done its best to keep this truth hidden.



The Polish Officer Corp

The Katyn story must begin with the character of the Polish elitist officer corp. Poland was created as an independent country from the ruins of the Germanic, Austrian and Russian empires. The new Polish ruling elite was arrogant and opportunistic. As part of the all out imperialist assault against Soviet Russia, the newly created Polish state launched an unprovoked invasion into its neighboring countries in 1920. The new Soviet Russia was powerless against the Polish invaders, operating in conjunction with a dozen more imperialist countries. Poland annexed a large part of Ukraine, Byelorussia and Lithuania, even taking away its present capital, Vilnius. Some 20 million non-Poles were placed under the rule of the Polish landlords and gentry. Assured the support of England and France, Poland become the gangster of Eastern Europe. It took a fiercely anti-Soviet attitude, becoming an active base for all sorts of anti-Soviet political and terrorist groups that conducted raids and inserted agents into the USSR.

Poland 's hooligan behavior and anti-Soviet attitude played a pivotal role in the rise of Nazi Germany and the demise of the Polish nation itself. In the 1930s, with its British and French masters behind it, Poland played the role of an instigator of conflict and an obstacle to peace. In the 1930s, Poland signed a 10 year non-aggression pact with Germany. With the USSR it agreed to sign it for only 3 years. In 1933, the USSR proposed the creation of a defensive plan between USSR, France, Belgium, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland. The aim of the plan was to defend in case of a German attack. It was the arrogant Polish ruling elite that prevented this plan from becoming reality. Poland declared it would not enter in any pact if Lithuania and Czechoslovakia were in it. The Polish Foreign Minister bragged to his German counterpart that the plan had been dealt a "mortal blow." In March 1939, USSR proposed yet another defensive plan between USSR, England, France, Poland and the Baltic, Balkan and Scandinavian countries. In this plan the USSR should be given the right to defend Poland in case of a German attack by moving its armies into Polish territory in case of war. Again, the Polish rulers, on cue from its British and French masters, refused to enter into any plan involving the USSR. History has shown where this led the world to. The Polish ruling elite prevented the defensive union of England, France and the USSR that may have prevented German military adventurism. They welcomed their destruction upon themselves.
Polish aggressiveness did not stop at wrecking security plans. When Germany marched into the Sudatenland in 1938, Poland followed suit, annexing parts of Czechoslovakia for itself. On March 11, 1938 Poland instigated an incident at the Polish-Lithuanian border. The Polish military elite rose up, moving their armies on the Lithuanian border and inviting the Germans to join them in an invasion of Lithuania. They made provocating speeches with the slogans "Forward to Kaunas" (the capital of Lithuania at the time was Kaunas). But on March 18, the USSR declared that it would not stand by peacefully if Poland attacked Lithuania. The Polish rulers backed down. The Polish elite still maintained hopes of conquering more Soviet territory. Its dream was of annexing the Baltic countries and reaching the Black Sea by annexing parts of Ukraine. In January 1939, the Polish Foreign Minister J. Bek held a meeting with Hitler and Robbentope. According to the memoirs of the last, Bek told the Germans the Polish intentions were to reach the Black Sea. The purpose of the meeting was to lay out a plan for a joint Polish-German invasion of Czechoslovakia and Lithuania.
Having seen the unwillingness of the western imperialists in creating a defensive pact against Germany, and having been left alone and in a vulnerable position, the USSR entered into a non-aggression pact with Germany, its mortal enemy. If they could not stop the Germans with an alliance, they would do it by themselves. It was agreed in the non-aggression pact that the sphere of influence of the USSR, where Germany should not interfere were the Baltic states and the land Poland had occupied from Russia in 1920. The Polish elite in essence, had signed its won destruction by rejecting defensive plans and approaching the Germans.
In March 30 1939, after having rejected the Soviet proposal for a defensive plan, Poland accepted the British offer to defend her. Immediately, the arrogant Polish rulers broke off its non-aggression pact with Germany. It arranged for deportation of the German population in Poland and moved the Polish Army on the borders with Germany. This was in essence a provocation of war. Poland now felt invulnerable, because the French and British would come to its defense.

On September 1 1939, Germany launched its invasion of Poland. The Polish government and military elite collapsed within days. 5 days after the start of hostilities, the Polish government ran from Warsaw to Lublin. They moved to three other cities until by September 16, abandoned the Polish people and ran into Romania. In September 30, 1939 they established a government in exile in France, under the leadership of General Sikorski. The Polish officers acted no differently. Most ran away with their government in exile, abandoning their soldiers and their country. Those that stayed offered token resistance, not because they could not, but because they would not. To them, it was more important to save their skin than their people.
To demonstrate the actions of the Polish officer elite, it is necessary to look at their casualty lists. In the USSR, in the years of 1944-1945, the ratio of soldier and officer casualties was 1:10.3. In previous years of the war, the ratio was often 1:2. In the French Army defending against the German invasion, the ratio was 1:2.3. By contrast, in the Polish Army defending against the German invasion in September, the ratio of soldiers and officer casualties was 1:32.2. These officers ran away from the fight, letting their soldiers be slaughtered and their nation conquered. This was the true nature of the elitist landlords, gentry and militarists ruling Poland at the time.



The Soviet Intervention

On September 17 1939, following the escape of the Polish government into Romania, the Red Army marched into the territory Poland stole in 1920. The Red Army was welcomed as liberators by the local population, who were only too happy to see the rule of the Polish gentry broken. Even the Polish soldiers themselves welcomed the Red Army, which met virtually no resistance. The territory that was stolen from Ukraine and Byelorussia was restored to them and become part of the USSR. The territory of Lithuania was restored to it, including its capital, Vilnius.

In the Soviet intervention into Poland, the USSR detained between 250-300 thousand Polish soldiers and officers. Most were released from detention centers. However, some 130,242 persons were maintained in detention camps of the NKVD, before their situation changed.

In November 1939, the Polish government in exile, as arrogant and bullish as ever, declared war on the USSR, supposedly in reply to the Soviet-Finish War. The Poles went as far as creating a special brigade to be send to fight the Red Army in Finland. By this act of war, the Polish government changed the status of the Polish soldiers still detained in the USSR. They now become automatically prisoners of war, and thus those still remaining in NKVD camps could not be released. According to international law, the prisoners of war could be forced to work on construction projects. However, officers could not be forced to work. Therefore, the Polish soldiers were put to work on constructing highways, such as the Novograd-Volynski-Lvov road.

After the official inclusion of the territory captured by Poland in 1920 into the USSR, the Polish prisoners of war automatically become citizens of the USSR. By decision of court, it was named illegal for the NKVD to detain and force these soldiers to work. Therefore, most soldiers and petty officers were all released into civilian life as citizens of the USSR. However, there was a group of people that could not be released. These were those charged with crimes against the non-Polish and Polish population in the newly liberated areas as well as for war crimes against the USSR. This group comprised members of Poland's military and governmental elite, gentry, landlord and manufacturers. There were plenty of war crimes committed by these people, such as the mass execution of Soviet prisoners of war in 1920 and active support for diversionary and terrorist groups against the USSR. It was decided to keep these individuals, numbering more than 20,000, in detention camps of the NKVD until a Special Commission of the NKVD examined their cases and decided upon a sentence for them.



The Decision of the Special Commission of the NKVD

The action of sentencing these foreign officers to war crimes was against international laws of the time. It was also not the time for the USSR to take such steps. War would soon come, and to publicly announce that some of the Polish officers were being considered as war criminals, could not help the USSR. Foreign imperialists, who were only looking for an opportunity to attack the USSR, would see this as an opportunity. Therefore, it was decided to keep this as secret as possible. A Special Commission of the NKVD was organized to individually investigate each case of the persons accused of crimes against the people or war crimes. Starting from December 1939, the administration of each camp in which the prisoners were being detained, started selecting those prisoners to be investigated by the Special Commission of the NKVD. On December 31, 1939 L. Beria send the order for the camps to deliver the names of the suspected officers. By February 20, 1940 the order was issued to release from camps all those individuals who were sick, invalid or representatives of the working intelligentsia. After a lengthy review by the members of the Special Commission, a decision was reached. The first time the conclusion of the NKVD was made publicly available in its entirety was in September 1993 in the "Military-Historical Magazine." This document was found in the Archives of the USSR. The decision of the Special Commission of the People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs (NKVD) was the following:

1. To give the status of war criminal to the persons considered socially dangerous; to exile for the period of up to 5 years under public supervision in the districts specified by the NKVD; to sentence them for the period of 5 years under public supervision with the prohibition of residing in the capitals, large cities and industrial centers of the USSR; to imprison in correctional-working camps and isolate in the camps for a period of up to 5 years, and to send outside the limits of the USSR foreign citizens considered socially dangerous.
2. To give the status of war criminal to the persons convicted of espionage, sabotage, diversion and terrorist activity and to imprison for the period from 5 to 8 years.
3. For the realization of the actions specified in items 1 and 2, the People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs acts under the chairmanship of the Special Commission comprised of: a) the Assistant to the People's Commissar of Internal Affairs; b) the representative of the NKVD to the RSFSR; c) the Chief of Central Administrative Board of Worker's and Peasant's Militia; d) the People's Commissar of the Union Republic on whose territory the action is carried out.
4. The public prosecutor or his assistant who in case of disagreement with both the decision or the direction of the Special Commission of the NKVD, has the right to protest to the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR. In this case, the decision of the Special Commission of the NKVD is suspended pending a decision from the Central Committee of the USSR.

5. The decision of the Special Committee of the NKVD about the reference and imprisonment into correctional-working camps of each person should be accompanied by the instruction of the reason of the application of these measures, area of imprisonment and term of imprisonment.

Starting from March 16 1940, individual cases were reviewed by the Special Commission of the NKVD and sentences were established for them. Some individuals were found not guilty of wrong doing and were returned to the prisoner of war status or were released. It was decided by the Special Commission that the privilege of correspondence be removed from the prisoners that were sentenced. The reason for this was that they were no longer prisoners of war, but war criminals, and thus the Soviet authorities were under no obligation to allow this privilege. Furthermore, the fact that the Polish officer elite had been sentenced as war criminals could not be released publicly. Releasing such information to the world would have been damaging to the USSR, especially in this time when allies, even half-hearted ones, were necessary. However, not all the detained prisoners were sentenced. Those that were not, were placed in prisoners of war camps from where they could freely correspond.
Furthermore, the Special Commission of the NKVD issued orders to the Starobelsk prisoners of war camp, where the Polish officers were previously held, to destroy the documentation regarding their prisoner of war status. An order was issued from L. Beria on September 10, 1940 to the commander of the camp to destroy the stock-taking documents of the prisoners of war. This order from Beria had no security clearance, and therefore could be viewed by anyone. The existence of this order has been seen by the western "historians" as evidence that the officers had been executed and that the Soviets were trying to cover their tracks. This is not the case. In the order of Beria and in following orders to the Starobelsk camp, the camp administration is asked to make copies of the prisoner's photographs and some other additional files which were to be send to the Kharakov UNKVD. The reality of this order is that the status of the officers had changed, from prisoners of war to war criminals. They had moved from the jurisdiction of the NKVD to that of the UNKVD, which dealt with such cases. Documents about their prisoner of war status could be destroyed, since they served no more purpose. But the pictures of the prisoners were send to the UNKVD, where new criminal files were opened for the prisoners.

With this, the work and jurisdiction of the Special Commission of the NKVD was finished. The prisoners were moved from the Starobelsk camp to three separate camps near the Smolenks area. These camps were specially set up by the UNKVD for the Polish officers. They were camp 1ON, 23km from Smolensk on the Moscow-Minsk highway, camp 2ON 25 km from Smolensk on the Smolensk-Vitebsk highway and camp 3ON 45km from Smolensk in the Krasokem area. In these camps, the officers were placed in construction of roads, particularly the highway Smolensk-Lvov.

Since 1943, the USSR was forced to publicly admit that the Polish officers and other individuals were sentenced to imprisonment in correctional and working-camps for the period of 5 to 8 years without the right of correspondence. Since that time, the USSR has been accused of lying. Indeed, it was concluded by the Nazis and the western imperialists that the USSR had sentenced these individuals to death instead of imprisonment. However, the discovery of the actual decision of the Special Commission of the NKVD, has proved beyond a doubt that the USSR was not lying. The prisoners were indeed sentenced to terms of imprisonment, or as in the case of foreign nationals, to exile. The decision of the Special Commission of the NKVD should never have been doubted because in 1941 several individuals of foreign nationality were exiled outside the USSR. Among them was a Polish officer of German origins, R.Shtiller, who was deported to Germany and revealed information about the sentencing. Furthermore, those Polish officers found not guilty were returned to their prisoner of war camps, from where they could freely correspond. The entire investigation of the NKVD begs the question, that if the intention was to kill the prisoners, why carry out such a lengthy investigation of individual cases and release persons found not guilty? If the intention was to execute them, none of this would have been done. However, as with most truthful evidence on Katyn, this information is rejected and kept hidden as much as possible by the western and Russian revisionist historians. Instead, these "historians" and the Gorbachievite gang, resorted to forgeries and lies on the decision of the NKVD. About these, we shall talk latter on.



Relations with Poland During the War

On June 22 1941, Germany launched its invasion of the USSR. At the time, Poland still held its declaration of war against the USSR. It wasn't until after the war had started, that the Polish government in exile retreated its declaration. In July 30 1941, the government of Sikorsky entered into negotiation with the USSR about the release of the remaining Polish prisoners and about the organization of a Polish Army from these. By early August 1941, it was decided to create a Polish Army in the USSR under the command of Polish General Anders (who was one of the prisoners), called the Anders Army. Sikorsky promised Stalin that the Anders Army would remain in the USSR and fight against the Germans. All he wanted in return was that 25,000 Polish soldiers be send to the Middle East to join the British Army. Stalin agreed, and in 1941 the Anders Army was created and armed. Sikorsky also asked Stalin about the fate of the missing Polish officers. Stalin avoided the question, giving the answer that he did not know (while the Soviet press made up imaginative theories of what happened). But the truth was that Stalin indeed did not know what had happened. By that time the Germans had taken Smolensk and the Polish camps and the Soviets did not know what happened to them. Also, this was not a priority for the Soviet Union. In any case, Stalin organized a committee to find out what happened to the Polish officers. They could not find out what happened to them, except that they had been captured by the Germans. On this, we shall talk about latter.

Anders, being of the Polish military elite and as arrogant as usual, had a deep hatred for the USSR. The USSR was sacrificing much by arming these Polish soldiers. At a time when weapons had to be taken out of museums to arm the defenders of Moscow, the Anders Army was being armed with the best weapons. In an act of treachery, which was second nature for the elite Polish officers, Anders led his army of 114,000 into Iran. He abandoned the Red Army and abandoned the fight for his homeland to ran away to Iran to join the British. This was indeed a great blow to Polish-Soviet relations. Never again would Stalin trust the Polish government in exile, and proved once more their treacherous and cowardly nature. Nevertheless, hundreds of thousands of Polish soldiers and officers still remained in the USSR. these were organized into the Polish People's Army, under the command of the PKKA. This was created in October 1941 and fought alongside the Red Army until the end of the war. By the Battle of Berlin, the Polish People's Army numbered 400,000. They were the only Polish troops to participate in the liberation of their country from the Nazis.
Meanwhile, the Polish military elite continued in its characteristic ways. In August 11 1941, the Sikorsky government ordered the Craiova Army (the Polish resistance under the control of Sikorsky) to begin the Warsaw uprising. The Red Army was only a short distance from Warsaw, but could not carry out an attack on the city at the time. They had just finished a 400km advance and had exhausted their resources. It was necessary to halt in front of the city in face of the German resistance. Instead of organizing their uprising in Warsaw with the Red Army, Sikorsky never told the Soviets about the planned uprising. He was trying to prove his authority as the legitimate ruler of Poland. Instead, the uprising resulted in a disaster for the Polish people, with the Germans massacring 200,000 people as a result. The arrogance and opportunistic nature of the Polish ruling elite had cost the Polish people countless losses, while its officers found it more convenient to run away to England instead of fighting to directly liberate their homeland.



Nazi and Revisionist Evidence

On July 10 1941, 62 German divisions, numbering some 1 million men, launched an assault against the city of Smolensk. In 2 months of heavy fighting, the Germans advanced 100km into Soviet territory and managed to capture the city of Smolensk. The three camps where the Polish officers were held were also captured in the German advance. What really happened to these officers we shall talk about latter. For now, only the German version of the story will be told.
In March 1942, the Germans announced that they had learned from Soviet prisoners that the Polish officers missing since 1940, had all been executed by the Soviets and buried in the Katyn forest. This German announcement was made at the same time when Poland and the USSR were organizing the creation of the Anders Army. Its aim was to destroy Soviet-Polish relations, which it achieved. The burial places of the officers were found and the Germans placed a cross in the area. On February 18 1943, the Germans announced that the burial places of the Polish officers would be excavated and examined. In April 11 1943, members of the Polish Red Cross (PKK), were invited by the Germans in their investigation of the Polish officers. Between April and June 1943, the PKK and a German team of forensic experts, headed by German Doctor G. Buttsu, investigated 4143 corpses. Between April 29 and 30 1943, an International Commission of 12 countries was organized. These included mostly satellite states of Germany as well as Switzerland. The 12 members of the International Commission, in their 2 day stay, investigated 9 corpses. On May 1 1943, the 12 members finished writing their reports of their findings, which were published on May 4 1943. By June 1943, the excavation and investigation of the bodies stopped, supposedly because of fear of epidemics.
According to the investigatory reports of the German, Polish and International teams, there was left no doubt that as many as 12,000 Polish officers were executed by the Soviets between the spring months of May and April 1940. The murders, according to the three parties, were carried out in the Katyn woods, near the NKVD vacation house situated in the woods. The Katyn forest is 15 km from Smolensk. The bodies were buried in an area 200m from the main Smolensk-Vitebsk highway and 700m from the two-story NKVD vacation house. This area, according to the Nazis, was very remote and closed off to the public. It was an area where no one ventured into. According to them, it had been used as a main execution grounds for the NKVD for 5 to 15 years, since bodies of executed Russians were found to be dated at 5-15 years. The Polish officers were buried in a number of graves, stacked 9-12 bodies high and covered by 1m or more of earth. On the bodies themselves, the forensic investigators found many documents belonging to the victims, such as passports and photos. None of the documents found on the 4143 bodies examined had dates beyond May 1940. Therefore, the date of execution was determined to have been in May of 1940. The bodies of Polish officers examined by the forensic experts were determined to have been in the ground for a period of at least 3 years, thus placing their execution time in the Spring of 1940. Bodies of Russians were also found. Their time in the ground was determined to be 5-15 years, thus proving Katyn had long been a place of executions.

Physical evidence was also found by the investigating commissions. Directly next to the burial grounds, there was a small cabin, where it was suspected the executions were carried out. The dead officers were found to have their hands tied on their back and to have been shot by a low-velocity pistol round on the back of the head. The bullet round on most bodies exited on the front of the head. Type and caliber of the bullet was not determined precisely, except that the bullet cases had Soviet inscriptions on them and production dates of 1939-1940. Further evidence of time of death were the birch leaves which had fallen inside the graves. These leaves were determined to have been fresh at the time of fall, and therefore were spring leaves.
The Nazi evidence on Katyn stopped at this. The documentation and evidence of the PKK was destroyed in 1944 during the Warsaw Uprising, while the German evidence was destroyed by the Germans in 1945 before their capitulation. However, the anti-Soviet propaganda did not end with the Nazis. Their work was continued by the revisionists ruling the USSR in the 80s and 90s. Already by 1989, Gorbachiev announced that it was the USSR that had killed the Polish officers. A witness was brought foreword by the revisionist "historians" assigned by Gorbachiev to "research" Katyn. This was a man named Tokarev, and in 1940 was the chief of the UNKVD of the Kalinin area. At the time of his "testimony", he was 89 years old. The old man was smart enough to tell Gorbachiev's investigators just what they wanted to hear. He told them he had attended a meeting with 15-20 other heads of UNKVD where they had received orders from the "highest authority" to execute "representatives of retaliatory bodies of the Polish republic." Tokarev went further to describe in detail how the executions were carried out. According to him, the executions were carried out inside the UNKVD building in the middle of Smolensk. 6000 officers were executed in one month; 300-200 officers per day. The prisoners were placed in the cellar of the building, where they were locked inside separate prison cells. They were pulled out in small groups of 10-40 persons and taken to a separate room. There, they were shot in the back of the head using a TT automatic pistol. They were loaded on 5-6 trucks and taken to the burial sites. In all, between the NKVD officers and drivers, 10 people were involved in the executions. In the first days, 300 officers were executed daily. But daylight started getting smaller, so the number was reduced to 250-200 officers per day. According to Tokarev, this was done in absolute secrecy and no one besides these 10 men were allowed to know about the executions.

Furthermore, the Gorbachevite "historians" brought forth an 83 year old man named Soprunenko. At the time he was a General-Major in the NKVD. He told the investigators about a meeting of 8-12 persons, which he attended, with Beria. There, they received an order signed by Stalin about the execution of the Polish officers. With this, the Gorbachevite "historians" had presented eyewitness proof that the Polish officers were executed by the Soviets.



Nazi Evidence Refuted

Of course, all the evidence presented by the Nazi and revisionist historians is false. It is false for the reason that the Polish prisoners were sentenced not to death but to imprisonment by the Special Commission of the NKVD and because they were very much alive until the German occupation of Smolensk. In this article the lies and propaganda of these "historians" will be examined and revealed to be what it truly is - lies!

First, let’s begin with the "proofs" of the Nazis. Following the liberation of Smolensk from the Germans in September 1943, a Special Commission was established, headed by Academician N.N. Burdenko. Following a lengthy investigation of the area, questioning of witnesses and the excavation and study of 925 bodies, the Burdenko Commission wrote a 56 page report. This report was made public in 1944. Since then, the revisionist historians have accused the report of being simply a propaganda document with no truth in it. However, this assessment does not hold. In 1990, a "Top Secret" version of the Burdenko report was discovered. This "Top Secret" document was send by Burdenko to the heads of the Soviet government. Truly, if the report made public was simply propaganda, the government in this "Top Secret" report had received the truth. Such documents don't serve propaganda purposes because they are not made public, and lying to your superiors is not a very good idea. However, the "Top Secret" version contained the same information as the publicly available report. The "Top Secret" report was published by the "Military-Historical Magazine" in 1990, No. 11 and 12.

The Burdenko Commission refuted all the points of the German and International investigation, except for the fact that there were 12,000 bodies. First to be examined was the location of the burial itself. The Germans claimed that the Katyn forest was an isolated area which had served as an execution ground for many years. In reality, Katyn was a popular area of vacationing. The NKVD vacation home was located only 700 away from the burial places. There resided the wives and children of the NKVD officers on vacation there. The city and surrounding population frequented the Katyn forest as a place of vacationing. Villagers came to the forest for picking mushrooms or for pasturing their animals. The area was not closed off the public in any way. Furthermore, the burial was only 200m from the Smolensk-Vitebsk highway. This was a heavily traveled road, with thousands of people crossing it every day. Could this be an area where executions were carried out for many years? Could this be the area where for months, 12,000 people were buried? It was not possible for the Soviets to carry out this act in such a place. Surely the NKVD could have found an area which was far more secure than this, an area where the only witnesses would have been bears. Most importantly, this revelation about Katyn proves the Germans were lying. According to the findings of the Burdenko Commission, it wasn't until the Germans occupied the area that the woods were closed to the population. Signs were put up, warning anyone who entered that they would be shot. A German military unit was stationed on the grounds of the Katyn forest, closing off the area.
And about the cabin found by the Germans directly next to the graves (where the Germans said the executions had been carried out). It was in actuality a cabin for the Pioneers! It appears, that the exact area of the burials was a favorite ground for the Pioneers to set up their summer camp. Therefore, a permanent cabin was build on that area for housing materials for their use (while the Pioneers themselves slept in tents).

The Burdenko Commission also answered the question of what had happened to the Polish prisoners after their camps were overrun by the Germans. The directors of the prisoner camps were located and questioned. The director of camp 1ON, Major of Security V.M. Vetoschinikov, testified about what happened. According to him, he received orders about the evacuation of the prisoners from the camp. However, he had not received any instructions on how to carry this out, since phone connections had been cut off. He and some employees of the camp drove to Smolensk to clarify the situation. He meets with Engineer S.V. Ivanov, head of transportation on the western stretch of the Smolensk railway. Vetoschinikov asked Ivanov for a few train cars to transport the prisoners. However, at the time the evacuation of the city population was being carried out. Therefore, Ivanov told him not to expect any train cars since none were available. Vetoschinikov tried to contact Moscow about permission to evacuate of foot, but could not contact them. By that time, the 1ON camp was cut off from Smolensk and the director had no idea what had happened to the prisoners or their guards.
Officer Ljubodzetsk witnessed what occurred in the 1ON camp after Vetoschinikov did not return. According to him, the evacuation of the camp started to be carried out by foot. However, the Polish officers rebelled. They said they wanted to wait for the Germans and surrender to them. At least the Germans, they thought, would treat them in accordance to international norms. The majority of the prisoners decided to remain in the camp and wait for the Germans. Only a few of the prisoners agreed to the evacuation - those of Jewish origin.
Therefore, it has been proven that the Polish officers were alive and in the camps by the time the Germans captured them. The Burdenko Commission gathered testimonies from a number of other eyewitnesses from the neighboring villages. According to several of them, they had seen Polish prisoners in the area near Smolensk as late as September 1941.
The Burdenko Commission went on to investigate if anyone had actually seen the process of execution of the Polish officers by the Germans. They found three women, the cooks of the NKVD vacation house, A.M. Aleksejava, O.A. Michailova, and S.P. Konachovskaja. At the time, the house was the base for a German military unit. According to the women, this was the Staff building for a Construction Battalion No.537-1. There were 30 persons stationed at this place, according to the cooks. They could not remember the names of all of them, except for a few. The commander of the battalion was Lt. Colonel Arnes. Others were Lt. Colonel Rekst, Lt. Hott, Sgt.Luemert and few others whom the women could remember. They witnessed the entire procedures of the Germans. Though they never witnessed an execution, they were aware of what was going on. According to all three women, several trucks regularly arrived at the residence starting from September 1941. They would not come directly to the residence at first. Coming off the main highway, the trucks would stop somewhere between the highway and the residence. The officers of the 537th would go into the woods. About half an hour latter, individual shots in succession begun to be heard. About 1 hour after the trucks had stopped, they reached the building and all would disembark. They would go into the house and wash themselves in the bathroom. They would then proceed to drink heavily. The women were not allowed out of the kitchen when the drivers and the other members of the convoy arrived. They were kept in the kitchen, cooking meals for them. On several occasions, the women noticed fresh blood stains on the uniforms of at least two officers. The cooks usually left their work in the evening. According to them, the officers had the unusual habit of sleeping until 12 o'clock. They suspected that they conducted the same business during the night. They also saw Polish officers on at least two occasions. In one occasion, one of the women was allowed to go home after her usual hours, in the evening. Walking on the road, she noticed a group of 30 prisoners. She recognized them as Polish because she had seen their uniforms before, while they were conducting construction work for the Soviets. On another occasion, two of the women accidentally saw two Polish officers inside the residence, surrounded by German officers. The women were chased back into the kitchen and there was a large fuss around the officers. A few minutes latter, the women heard two shots. They had been warned several times to be careful about what they saw and not to tell anyone. As punishment for their intrusion, one of the women was locked in the basement of the building for 8 days while the other two for 3 days. After they realized what was going on, they quit their jobs on various excuses.

The conclusion that can be drawn from the testimonies of these three women is that the Polish officers were being executed by the Germans in the autumn of 1941. Apparently, several trucks were carrying groups of 30 or so prisoners to the Katyn woods. Stopping "between the highway and the residence", or approximately 200m from the highway, the prisoners were unloaded. There awaited them the 30 members of the 537th in addition to the drivers and escorting soldiers. The prisoners were individually executed directly above their burial grounds and were thrown into their graves. This is a scene which can be seen many times in German footage of executions, where a German officer stands behind a kneeling prisoner, shoots him in the back of the head and throws him into an open grave. Following their work, all the German officers, soldiers and drivers went into the residence to clean off the blood or dirt and to celebrate with drinks. Now it was finally proven what had happened to the Polish officers.
The Burdenko Commission started excavation of the burial grounds in Katyn on January 16, 1944. The Commission dug up 925 bodies from those which had not already been examined by the Germans. There was a multitude of physical evidence on the bodies themselves. An obvious feature of the bodies was the heavy gray overcoat of the Polish officers. The question must than be asked, if the Polish officers were shot in the spring of 1940, as the Germans claim, why were they wearing coats? The only explanation for this is that they were not killed in the spring, but in a cold season, perhaps in autumn.

The hands of some Polish officers had been tied using a white braided cord. At the time, the USSR was the largest producer of hemp rope. In fact, the only kind of rope produced in the USSR in the per-war years was hemp rope. Smolenks was one of the main centers of production. Therefore, the conclusion can be drawn that this was not rope produced in the USSR, but in some other foreign country.

The most obvious forensic evidence to look for in a murder case is the bullet and the bullet case. It was determined by the investigation on the 925 bodies, that most bullets had made an exit whole in the front of the head or in the face. In 27 cases, the bullet had remained inside the head. It was determined, the kills were made with low-velocity pistols. Many bullet cases were found in the graves. These were primarily of a 7.65mm caliber, but there were also a few 6.35mm caliber and even fewer 9mm bullets. The inscription on the 7.65mm bullets were "Genshov and K", a German producer of cartridges known also as "Geko". So the bullets were produced in Germany! The question must than be asked, did the USSR make use of such weapons? Perhaps there was some export of 7.65mm cartridges to the USSR from Germany? The truth is the USSR made no use of any kind of gun with a 7.65mm caliber. The standard bullet size for Soviet pistols, including the TT, was 7.62mm. The USSR did make use of several types of guns with a 6.35mm caliber, but Germany also produced 59 types of pistols with a 6.35mm caliber. Also, USSR did not have a 9mm pistol until after the war, the Makarov pistol. Therefore, it is proven beyond a doubt that the executions were carried out with bullets produced in Germany and with guns which the Soviet Union did not posses. The only explanation is of course that these were carried out by the Germans. As for the German claim of having found bullet cases with Soviet inscriptions on them, this can only be propaganda since no producer, caliber or type of case was mentioned (on all Soviet cartridges the name of the factory of production is mentioned).

The bodies were searched for documentation of any sort. Many documents and papers were recovered. Among them, were at least 9 documents with dates from 12 November 1940 to 20 June 1941. These included 2 letters, one received and another not send out, one icon and a number of camp receipts. The existence of these papers is proof that the prisoners were still alive until at least the German invasion started.

And what about those leaves the Germans supposedly found in the graves? If these leaves had fallen into the graves, and 3 years latter (the Germans claimed the Poles were killed in 1940) they were still distinguishable to be birch leaves, than they must have been dry at the time of their fall. A fresh leaf would decompose very quickly and there would be nothing left of it. A dry leaf, especially birch leaves, can maintain their form for a long time if buried. But even they, cannot maintain their shape after 3 years. So there must be a different explanation. If the murders happened in the spring of 1940, than there would have been no dry leaves. And as is known leaves fall from the trees in the fall. Perhaps in the fall of 1941, or one and a half years before they were exhumed.


Investigation of the PKK and International Commission

Even more physical evidence about the bodies in Katyn comes from the investigators of the International Commission itself, who examined the bodies in 1943 under German supervision. Two members of the forensic team of the International Commission, Czechoslovakian Professor of forensic medicine F. Gaek and Bulgarian forensic scientist Marko Marks, were questioned on the matter. Marks was arrested in 1944 by the Bulgarian People's Government and accused of lying on his Katyn investigation. Instead, Marks told them he did not lie, but that his real report was never made public by the Germans (thus Marks was freed). According to his experience, on May 1 1943, the team was flown from Katyn to Berlin. On the way to Berlin, their plane landed in an isolated military airfield. There, the members of the commission ate dinner. They were then given a prepared report on what they saw, which they had to sign. According to Marks, the report the Germans made public was only signed by the members of the commission, but not written by them. Instead, as Marks accounts, the members wrote individual reports which the Germans did not make public. In these reports, the conclusion of the commission was that the bodies in Katyn were too well preserved to have been buried 3 years earlier. Instead the commission concluded the bodies had been killed one to one and a half year earlier, in late 1941 or early 1942.
The findings of the Polish Red Cross (PKK) were also the same. On the death certificates they made for the victims at Katyn, they specified no date of death. According to its members, who testified after the war, they could not agree on a conclusion. Most though the killings had been carried out one to one and a half years earlier and not 3 years as the Germans claimed. However, they could not wrote such a thing. Therefore it was decided to leave the time of death simply blank.

The PKK and the International Commission, as well as experts invited from other countries, examined in detail the bodies the Germans had laid out for them. The way in which these examinations were carried out was bizarre. The PKK members were present in the exhuming of the 4143 bodies they examined. The Germans had rounded up people from the neighboring villages to dig out the bodies. Once the bodies were out, the peasants were forced to search their uniforms for documents and papers of any kind. Once these were found, they were placed in individual folders with a number. The same number was placed on the body with a metal tag. The documents found in the bodies were not given to the PKK. By order from Berlin, all diaries, letters, receipts and orders were to be send to Germany immediately for translation into German. The PKK members were given only the passports and other identification papers of the prisoners. Now it becomes obvious why the investigators found no documents with dates after the spring of 1940. Any document which would have contained a date was taken to Germany for "translation", and only than made public. The PKK and other commissions were given only documents which did not contain any dates or hints of when they were killed.

The examination of the bodies themselves was even more revealing as to their time of death. According to the pathologist and forensic experts, the bodies were in a good condition. The tissue on the bodies was still attached. The skin on the hands, face and neck had turned gray, and in some cases greenish brown. There was no complete decomposition of the bodies and no putrefaction. In the bodies, muscles and tendons were still visible. Limbs were also still attached. When the bodies were carried out by the peasants, no parts of the bodies came apart. The uniforms of the bodies was still in good condition and held together well. The metallic parts of their uniforms, such as belts, buttons and nails, was still metallic and shiny in some areas. They were not rusted completely.

Bodies decompose faster in the warm seasons of the year, spring and summer. In winter bodies decompose very little and are as if in refrigeration. If the German version of the story were true, and the officers were killed in the spring of 1940, than there would have been 3 summer seasons between that time and April 1943. However, if the bodies had been killed in the autumn and winter of 1941, as the Soviet version of events goes, than there would have been only 1 summer season between that time and April 1943. In 3 summer seasons, the bodies would have been in a far more advanced stage of decomposition than the commissions found. For this reason the conclusion of both PKK and International forensic experts was that the bodies were killed one to one and a half years earlier, during the German occupation of the area. However, such a conclusion could not be made public by Germany.
The decomposition of the bodies was also the reason for the German delay in excavating the area. According to them, the location of the graves was discovered in March 1942. Excavation of the bodies started more than 1 year latter. The Germans knew that since the bodies had been buried in the autumn and winter of 1941, they were still not decomposing by March 1942. Therefore, it was necessary to wait at least one summer for the bodies to decompose, and than excavate them in the spring of 1943.



Revisionist Evidence Refuted

The two eyewitnesses presented by the Gorbachevites are indeed lying about what really occurred. But it is not them who are to be blamed. They had no other choice. Soprunenko refused to admit that he received such an order for several months. The daughter, fearing for her and her father’s safety, said it was true that her father had seen an order from Stalin to kill the prisoners. The old man denied it, until after months of intimidation and threats was forced to tell them what they wanted to hear. But the Gorbachevite inspectors had not taken into consideration one detail. Soprunenko had already been asked the question of what happened to the Polish officers. He was asked this by the Committee that Stalin organized in the fall of 1941 to find out what happened to the Polish officers (on behalf of Sikorsky). The documentation the general-major received and send on this matter was found in the Archives of the USSR as "Top Secret" documents. The truth, what Soprunenko had said in the fall of 1941, was finally found out and shattered the lies of the revisionists. One of the first persons questioned in 1941 on what happened to the Polish officers was precisely General-Major Soprunenko. Soprunenko wrote several documents under the title "Top Secret". In these documents Soprunenko says the UNKVD "is at a loss" about what happened to the Polish officers. It did not know! He also wrote a document about the release of prisoners of German origin to Germany in a prisoner exchange program. But his reply to the Commission was that the UNKVD did not know. If the general-major had indeed been ordered by Beria to execute the Polish officers, he would have replied "on the indication of Comrade Beria, the Polish officers were shot." Remember that the documents were "Top Secret". No one would have seen them, except for people who would have send such on order themselves! Why hide an order of Stalin and Beria...from Stalin and Beria? Yet Soprunenko made no such comment. He never received or saw such an order. He placed the responsibility for the disappearance of the prisoners on himself and on the UNKVD. So the truth of what the old man knew become known in the "Top Secret" documents, and the testimony he was forced to give to the Gorbachevite inspectors was proven to be false.

The testimony of Tokarev was false as well. He knew the Gorbachev inspectors would not quit until they heard what they wanted to hear. So Tokarev, being smarter than these revisionists, told them exactly what they wanted to hear, and at the same time hinted in his testimony he was only pulling their tail. The whole story of how the executions were carried out makes absolutely no sense. Even according to the German investigation, the pistols used in executing the Poles were low-velocity pistols. Tokarev says the executioners used TT pistols. TT pistols are very high-velocity guns, with a muzzle velocity of 420m/s. It is very powerful, and at a point blank range, it would not have produced a simple entry and exit wound. At that range, it would have carried away with it half the head! To give an impression of its power, even today the only hand guns that compare to its power are magnum revolvers. Furthermore, when shooting indoors against brick or cement walls, it ricochets off the walls and hits the executioners themselves! Therefore, TT pistols are never used for executions at close range and inside buildings. TT pistols also have a caliber of 7.62mm. No such bullets were found in the Katyn graves. Of course, Tokarev was aware of this, but his questioners were not.

The most obvious aspect of Tokarev's false testimonial is his description of the execution process. Tokarev says the executions were carried out in the UNKVD building in the middle of Smolensk. How can executions of 300 prisoners per day be kept secret in a large prison in the middle of a city? It cannot. The executions, if they were 6000 per month, went on for 2 months. If the executions were to be carried out in absolute secrecy, the building had to be emptied of personnel for 2 months. All the other prisoners, the guards, the office personnel, the telephone operators, the genitors, the cooks and storekeepers of the complex had to be send home for 2 months and operations of the UNKVD had to be shut down for that period. Guards would have to be placed outside the building, indeed a long way out of the building, to keep people from coming near enough to hear the shooting. Could all this have been carried out in secret in the middle of a city? Of course not. It makes no sense, and Tokarev knew this. Furthermore, is it possible for 10 guards to execute 300-200 prisoners every day? According to Tokarev, they were executed in groups of 10-40 people. The entire process, as according to Tokarev, was to take them out of their cells, take them to an office room to be identified and to complete necessary documentation, take them to special room to be executed. Afterwards, they were loaded into trucks from the back door of the building and taken to their burial sites. This entire process would have taken a very long time, especially for a small group of 10 guards. The prisoners would have been less then cooperative. It is hard to drag 10-40 men who know that they are going to be executed. So the time elapsed in this process is even longer. If there are 10 hours of daylight in April, and Tokarev said the executions were carried out during the daylight hours, than there was a 2 minute time period for the execution of every person in order to kill 300 persons per day. This is the time if the guards take no breaks and eat nothing during this process. Furthermore, if the prisoners were killed in the UNKVD building in the middle of the city, why were there bullet cases in the graves of the Polish officers? It is simply impossible. The Burdenko Commission already showed how the Germans, who were master executioners, carried out their actions.



Nürnberg Tribunal

During the Nuremberg Trial in 1946 of Nazi war criminals, the USSR added to the war crimes of Germany the murder of the Polish officers. The Nuremberg judges, however, decided not to accuse Germany of this crime. By the admission of the judges themselves, they had received orders from their government not to accept Soviet evidence. The west wanted the responsibility to fall on the USSR. Also, by the admission of the judges themselves, they had already read the German reports on Katyn and had accepted these as authentic (how authentic they were has already been described above.)

Nevertheless, the specific individuals who had carried out the crimes had to be identified and brought to justice. Courts were set up in all European countries for the investigation of specific crimes. Katyn was investigated by a court made up of Polish judges (remember that at the time Poland was not a socialist country.) The USSR brought forth its evidence as to who the killers were. The three cooks of the NKVD vacation house testified that on that residence there was the 537th Construction Battalion and named its commanders, Arnes, Hott and a few others. Lt. Colonel Arnes was identified and brought in front of the tribunal. According to him, he did not serve in the 537-1 Construction Battalion, but in the 537-1 Communication Battalion. Furthermore, Arnes testified that he did not become commander of the 537-1 until November 1941, and therefore did not know about the killings. The commander of Army Group " Center ", to which the 537th was attached, General E. Oberkhoyzer, testified that the 537th had arrived in the Katyn forest in September 1941, but that Arnes become its commander only in November 1941.

Without carrying out an investigation on the truthfulness of these testimonies, and without examining any orders of the command to the 537th, the Polish tribunal found the men Not Guilty. The tribunal simply accepted the testimonies of people who were the killers. Does a killer admit to his crime immediately? Indeed, nothing was proven in this trial. It was only proven that the cooks had been wrong. The German unit was not the 537 Construction but rather the 537 Communication. Therefore these men were innocent. No one thought that perhaps those three women, who were not particularly knowledgeable in identifying military units, had simply made a mistake. Indeed, it cannot be a coincidence that there was a 537 unit in Katyn with the same officers the cooks described. Furthermore, it was claimed Arnes was not the commander of that unit until November 1941. But that still does not exclude the possibility that he was in that unit, perhaps as a junior commander. Perhaps Arena, Hott and others had received special orders? Perhaps they were placed temporarily in command for this task? These are the questions the tribunal should have investigated. Instead, it simply chose to believe the words of the killers and end its investigation at that. The western imperialists and the arrogance of the Polish ruling elite, again sabotaged the quest for the truth. The pinpointing of the individuals who carried out this act is, however, less important than proving that it was the responsibility of the Nazis.



Forged Documents

As a final chapter to the Katyn drama, the Gorbachevite "historians" announced in 1992 the discovery of three documents, undeniably proving Soviet guilt in Katyn. The first document was a request by Beria to the Political Bureau, to give the order to execute the Polish officers. The second document is the protocol of the Political Bureau for its Session No.13, where the request of Beria is noted. The third document is a letter from Shepelin to Khrushchev dated March 3 1959, informing him that all documentation on Katyn would be destroyed.
All three of these documents are false, and this article shall prove so. The letter of Beria to the Politburo is of most importance. It is also the most obvious fake. In the letter dated March 5 1940, Beria says he thinks it necessary that "the NKVD" propose to "the NKVD" to transfer the cases for 14,700 prisoners of war and 11,000 arrested people. It asks the Politburo in request I, to order "the application to them of the highest measure of punishment - execution". In request II, it asks that the sentences for the persons be carried out without their presence and without representation for them. In request III, it asks the Politburo to appoint this matter to a "troika" made up of Kabulov, Merkulov and Bashtakov. This letter is under the title "Top Secret". On the first page of the document, it is signed by Stalin, Molotov, Mikoyan, Voroshilov. The names of Kaganovich and Kalinin are added under these, where they express "after".
The mistakes and inconsistencies in this letter are many. To start, the letter is "Top Secret". Standard procedure for a "Top Secret" letter were to write on the letter the name of the person who typed it, the names of all the persons who have seen the document, the names of all persons to whom this letter is to be send, the number of copies made of this letter, the carbon paper used to make a copy of it and finally the tape of the typewriter used to make this paper. For the "Beria document", none of these exist. Without these precautions, it is not a "Top Secret" letter. The forger of this document either was not aware of the requirements of a "Top Secret" paper, or such requirements could not be forged by them. Either way, this paper immediately looses its value, and furthermore shows it is a forgery.

But the mistakes do not stop here. The signatures of the members of the Politburo go against the form. In this letter, 4 members of the Politburo have simply signed their names. By this act, they have rejected the request of Beria. You see, if the members of the Politburo agreed to send out an order or to carry out a request, it was necessary of them to sign the document, and to write next to their signatures "agreed" or "after". In order for the request to be agreed and the order to be send out, the members had to express their agreement to the request or their agreement to an order being send. If they simply signed the paper, it meant that the members had read the document, but had not agreed to it and had not sent out any orders. The forger was obviously not aware of this and has made the mistake. Even if this request is authentic, which it is not, it was not accepted by the Politburo.

On the first page of the document, along with the four signatures of Stalin, Molotov, Mikoyan and Voroshilov, the forger added the names of Kaganovich and Kalinin underneath these. What the forger was not aware of, is that both Kaganovich and Kalinin were absent from the 13th Session of the Politburo in March 1940. They could not have placed their signatures on this document.

Beria's requests contain even more proof that it is a forgery. Beria's requests that he finds it necessary for the NKVD to propose to the NKVD, makes no sense. Why would Beria find it necessary to propose to Beria? This is a mistake which the forger accidentally made. Why he made this mistake shall be discussed below.

In Beria's third request, he ask for the creation of a "troika" of three individuals mentioned by name. This entire request makes no sense. When a troika is created, its members are never mentioned by name. They are mentioned by their post. What was to happen if one of the members died or was removed from his post? Was the troika destroyed or was this person, who was no longer in position, still in the troika? It could not have been done in this way. For an example, the reader should refer to the above decision of the Special Commission of the NKVD, where its members are identified only by their post. It is not important who the individuals are. The individuals in the posts may change, but the troika still stands.
Furthermore, this document gives no indication as to who should receive or should be informed of the decision of the Politburo. The only person mentioned is L. Beria. But in a document such as this, the names of the persons to receive it are also included. Otherwise, how is Kabulov to know he is a member of the "troika"? This document is "Top Secret". It is given to him only by the Politburo. Furthermore, the persons in charge of carrying out the orders of the Politburo, in this case the people or organs to carry out the executions must also be named. Otherwise, if it is simply announced to them by a second or third party, it is no longer a "Top Secret" decision, but something for the whole world to know. This document contains no such names.

The request for execution to the Politburo is a further mistake of the forger. Such a request would never have been made. The Politburo did not have the authority to make such an order. The only body capable of issuing an order for execution was the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, specifically the Supreme Court of the USSR. Only by decision of the Supreme Court could an execution be carried out. The Court also established special "troikas", which by authority of the Court had the power to sentence to execution. In this document, Beria is asking the Politburo to create a "troika" to sentence people to death. It was impossible! Only a decision of the Supreme Court could have created such a "troika". An example of how such a process was carried out happened in 1941. The German advance was threatening to capture the prison at Orel, where important members of anti-Soviet groups were being held. It could not be allowed for them to fall into the hands of the Germans, who would use them against the USSR. Therefore, a meeting of the Supreme Court was called where it issued an order for execution, and only then were the prisoners executed. Even in the most pressing of times, 1941, the rule of Soviet law was not broken. So why was Beria asking the Politburo for such a decision?
The question must be asked, why did the forger make such mistakes? The reason for them is that the forger used an original document from Beria to the Politburo. The forger needed an original document to have a document number and to keep the same characteristic style of Beria. He did not change the first page, except for adding the names of Kaganovich and Kalinin (which the forger thought should have been there). However, the forger changed the second page, Beria's requests. So in the original document of Beria it read "...the NKVD finds it necessary to propose to the Special Commission of the NKVD..." Than it would make sense. The forger however, removed the Special Commission, since its decision was to sentence the officers to a maximum of 5 years of imprisonment. Therefore, in the original document, Beria's request was not to execute the prisoners, and thus disagree with the conclusion of the Special Commission. It was in agreement with the Special Commission. Instead of ordering an execution, the original document should have read " with the application to them of the sentence of 5-8 years of imprisonment as specified by the Special Commission of the NKVD". Also, in the original there was no request for the creation of a troika. Only then would this document make sense. It was only asking the members of the Politburo to agree to allow the NKVD to propose to the Special Commission of the NKVD the transfer of files to them and to allow the NKVD to propose to the Special Commission to carry out its investigation of individuals without their presence and without the presence of their representation. This original request of the document is supported in the fact that on March 16 1940, the Special Commission started receiving personal information on the prisoners and begun its individual sentencing. This is the exact request of Beria's original letter to the Politburo.

If the original document had read as such, than the signatures on the first page are transformed into an agreement. This is not bizarre, but if the Politburo was not asked to carry out an order or to take any action, but only to agree, than a simple signature would have sufficed. If there were no orders or actions to be carried out, than none had to be specified next to the names. So by changing the requests of Beria, the forger also changed the decision of the Politburo. Nevertheless, this document so proudly displayed by the revisionists is no doubt a fake.

The second document is the protocol of the Politburo on the request of Beria. It confirms all the requests of Beria, the execution of the prisoners and the creation of the "troika" with the members Beria mentioned. This is the letter that is taken from the logs of the Politburo and send to the persons specified in Beria's request are to receive it. However, since no such persons were indicated on the letter of Beria, to whom was this protocol send to? Furthermore, since by their simple signatures, the members of the Politburo did not agree to Beria's request, why was a protocol of the Politburo made for it? Also, it does not contain the signature of the Secretary of the Politburo. Without the signature, it means nothing. This second document is simply a continuation of the first one, an attempt of the forgers to show the Politburo agreed and send out an order. Just as the forger changed the original Beria document to suggest execution, so was changed the original protocol of the Politburo.

The third document is very poorly made and seems to have the purpose of telling all other historians not to search documents on Katyn any more, Khrushchev has destroyed them all! On this letter of Shepelin to Khrushchev, there is no number at all and there is no signature. It follows no form. Nevertheless, in this letter Shepelin tells Khrushchev that all documents on Katyn will be destroyed since they have no "historical value" to anyone. How did Shepelin think that documents on executions of thousands of foreign nationals, had no value to anyone? Among the documents Shepelin mentions, are the stock-taking documents of the prisoners of war from their camps, mentioned among them is Starobelsk camp. As we have already seen, an order was send from Beria to the commander of Starobelsk in September 1940, to destroy the stock-taking documents of the prisoners of war since criminal cases for them would be opened. How did these stock-taking documents reappear in 1959 for Shepelin to destroy? For the prisoners of war sentenced to prison by the Special Commission of the NKVD, criminal cases were opened and there existed no more documents of their prisoner of war status. Also, in this document, the protocol to execute the Poles is said to have come from the Politburo of the CPSU. Shepelin simply refers "to the protocol of the Politburo of the CPSU to execute..." The problem with this is that the CPSU did not exist until 1952. In 1940, there was no such government body! In 1940, it was called the Politburo of the AUCP(B) (All Union Communist Party - Bolshevik). Also, Shepelin cannot simply refer to such a "Top Secret" document without quoting it or without including a copy of it for Khrushchev. Otherwise, how would Khrushchev know what Shepelin was talking about. Yet all these simple mistakes are made by the forger.

All three documents are forgeries. There are only a few authentic documents recovered on Katyn (the resolution of the Special Commission, the orders to Starobelsk ext.) Any additional documents on Katyn, such as the criminal cases of the prisoners, were located in the Smolensk Archives. Unfortunately, the Smolensk Archives were captured by the Germans during WW2 and latter by the Americans. If these documents exist anymore, they are in the hands of the Americans, and will thus never be revealed. Nevertheless, it is important to show that the revisionists have no documents implicating the USSR, but instead resort to forgeries and lies.



Conclusion

What conclusion can be drawn from the evidence, counter-evidence, documents, forgeries and heaps of propaganda on Katyn? For 60 years the anti-communist forces of the world have told us Katyn was a Soviet responsibility. The Nazis proclaimed this as a crime of the Jewish communists. They used it as one of the many pretexts for placing into concentration camps and slaughtering tens of millions of Soviet citizens and Jews. The western imperialists used the Nazi pretext in the 1950s, to place on trial communists. They used it to launch a crusade against communism, to protect their empires and colonies, slaughtering more millions. The anti-communists and scoundrels ruling the USSR in the 80s and 90s used Katyn as a pretext for destroying the USSR and throwing the Soviet people into the brutal exploitation of capitalist and Mafiosi gangsters. Millions more died. Today, the modern revisionist "historians" would like to exult the Nazis of any responsibility. Today they use Katyn as yet another pretext to show how the Soviets "fabricated" the Holocaust and how they "fabricated" Auschwitz and all the other unimaginable crimes of the Nazis. Katyn has always been used as a weapon of the fascists and imperialists for justifying their murderous campaigns.
The truth on Katyn however is far from what these Nazi sympathizers and scoundrels would like us to believe. Katyn was the work of the Nazis. It is they who killed the Polish officers after capturing them from Soviet camps. The conclusion one should draw simply from the heaps of lies, propaganda and forgeries the imperialists and Nazi-sympathizers, is that Katyn is their responsibility. Otherwise, there would have been no reason for the Nazis to conduct their "international" investigation as they did and for the Gorbachevite revisionists to create fake documents. But beyond their lies and forgeries, one should look at the truth on Katyn. The truth stands that the Polish officers were sentenced to terms of prison for their various war crimes. To tell the truth, no one should feel sorry for these Polish officers. They were traitors and cowards in the face of their country and people. However, they did not deserve a German bullet in the back of their head. Only a Polish bullet would have sufficed for their crimes against the Polish people.



from: http://www.red-channel.de/books/katyn1.htm
originally posted here i think: https://web.archive.org/web/20030429152110/http://www.soviet-empire.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2321

#613
Dr Markov's testemony at Nuremburg in which he talks about the age of the bodies (bolding mine) and the strange circumstances around the signing of the Nazi-red cross report. Well worth reading.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Mr. President, I beg the Tribunal to allow me to call as witness Marko Antonov Markov, a Bulgarian citizen, professor at the University of Sofia.



THE PRESIDENT: Are you the interpreter?

LUDOMIR VALEV (Interpreter): Yes, Sir.

THE PRESIDENT: Will you give us your full name?

VALEV: Ludomir Valev.

THE PRESIDENT: Will you repeat this oath after me: I swear before God and the Law-that I will interpret truthfully and to the best of my skill-the evidence to be given by the witness.



flit; PRESIDENT: Will you give us your full name, please?

DR. MARKO ANTONOV MARKOV (Witness): Dr. Marko Antonov Markov.

THE PRESIDENT: Will you repeat this oath after me: I swear- as a witness in this case-that I will speak only the truth-being

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aware of my responsibility before God and the Law-and that I will withhold and add nothing.



THE PRESIDENT: You may sit down.

MR. DODD: Mr. President, this witness is examined, I would like to call to the attention of the Tribunal the fact that Dr. Stahmer asked the preceding witness a question which I understood went: How did it happen that the interpreters had the questions and the answers to your questions if you didn't have them before you? Now that question implied that Dr. Stahmer had some information that the interpreters did have the answers to the questions, and I sent a note up to the interpreters, and I have the answer from the lieutenant in charge that no one there had any answers or questions, and I think it should be made clear on the record.

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I think so, too.

DR. STAHMER: I was advised of this fact outside the courtroom. If it is not a fact, I wish to withdraw my statement. I was informed outside the courtroom from a trustworthy source. I do not recall the name of the person who told me, I shall have to ascertain it.

THE PRESIDENT: Such statements ought not be made by counsel until they have verified them.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: May I begin the examination of this witness, Mr. President?

THE PRESIDENT: The examination, yes.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Witness, I beg you to tell us briefly, without taking up the time of the Tribunal with too many details, under what conditions you were included in the so-called International Medical Commission set up by the Germans in the month of April 1943 for the examination of the graves of Polish officers in the Katyn woods.

I beg you, when answering me, to pause between the question I put to you and your own answer.

MARKOV: This occurred at the end of April 1943. While working in the Medico-Legal Institute, where I am still working, I was called to the telephone by Dr. Guerow.

THE PRESIDENT: The witness must stop before the interpreter begins. Otherwise, the voices come over the microphone together. So the interpreter must wait until the witness has finished his answer before he repeats it.

Now, the witness has said-at least this is what I heard-that in April 1943 he was called on the telephone.

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MARKOV: I was called to the telephone by Dr. Guerow, the secretary of Dr. Filoff who was then Prime Minister of Bulgaria. I was told that I was to take part) as representative of the Bulgarian Government, in the work of an international medical commission which had to examine the corpses of Polish officers discovered in the Katyn wood.

Not wishing to go, I answered that I had to replace the director of my Institute who was away in the country. Dr. Guerow told me that according to an instruction of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, who had sent the telegram, it was precisely in order to replace him that I would have to go there. Guerow told me to come to the Ministry. There I asked him if I could refuse to comply with this order. He answered that we were in a state of war and that the Government could send anybody wherever and whenever they deemed it necessary.

Guerow took me to the first secretary of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Schuchmanov. Schuchmanov repeated this order and told me that we were to examine the corpses of thousands of Polish officers. I answered that to examine thousands of corpses would take several months, but Schuchmanov said that the Germans had already exhumed a great number of these corpses and that I would have to go, together with other members of the commission, in order to see what had already been done and in order to sign, as Bulgarian representative, the report of the proceedings which had already been drafted. After that, I was taken to the German Legation, to Counsellor Mormann, who arranged all the technical details of the trip. This was on Saturday; and on Monday morning, 26 April, I flew to Berlin. There I was met by an official of the Bulgarian Legation and I was lodged at the Hotel Adlon.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Please answer the next question: Who took part in this so-called International Commission, and when did they leave for Katyn?

MARKOV: On the next day, 27 April, we stayed in Berlin and the other members of the commission arrived there too.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Who were they?

MARKOV: They were the following, besides myself: Dr. Birkle, chief doctor of the Ministry of Justice and first assistant of the Institute of Forensic Medicine and Criminology at Bucharest; Dr. Miloslavich, professor of forensic medicine and criminology at Zagreb University, who was representative for Croatia; Professor Palmieri, who was professor for forensic medicine and criminology at Naples; Dr. Orsos, professor of forensic medicine and criminology at Budapest; Dr. Subik, professor of pathological anatomy at the University of Bratislava and chief of the State Department for Health for

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Slovakia; Dr. Hajek, professor for forensic medicine and criminology at Prague, who represented the so-called Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia; Professor Naville, professor of forensic medicine at the University of Geneva, representative for Switzerland; Dr. Speleers, professor for ophthalmology at Ghent University, who represented Belgium; Dr. De Burlett, professor of anatomy at the University of Groningen, representing Holland; Dr. Tramsen, vice chancellor of the Institute for forensic medicine at Copenhagen University, representing Denmark; Dr. Saxen, who was professor for pathological anatomy at Helsinki University, Finland.

During the investigations of the commission, a Dr. Costeduat was missing; he declared that he could attend only as a personal representative of President Laval. Professor Piga from Madrid also arrived, an elderly gentleman who did not take any part in the work of the commission. It was stated later that he was ill as a result of the long journey.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Were all these persons flown to Katyn?

MARKOV: All these persons arrived at Katyn with the exception of Professor Piga.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Who besides the members of the commission left for Katyn with you?

MARKOV: On the 28th we took off from Tempelhof Airdrome, Berlin, for Katyn. We took off in two airplanes which carried about 15 to 20 persons each.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Maybe you can tell us briefly who was there?

MARKOV: Together with us was Director Dietz, who met us and accompanied us. He represented the Ministry of Public Health. There were also press representatives, and two representatives of the Ministry for Foreign Affairs.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: I beg you to stop with these details and to tell me when the commission arrived in Katyn?

MARKOV: The commission arrived in Smolensk on 28 April, in the evening.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: How many work days did the commission stay in Smolensk? I stress work days.

MARKOV: We stayed in Smolensk 2 days only, 29 and 30 April 1943, and on 1 May, in the morning, we left Smolensk.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: How many times did the members of the commission personally visit the mass graves in the Katyn wood?

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MARKOV: We were twice in the Katyn wood, that is, in the forenoon of 29 and 30 April.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: I mean, how many hours did you spend each time at the mass graves?

MARKOV: I consider not more than 3 or 4 hours each time.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Were the members of the commission present at least once during the opening of one of the graves?

MARKOV: No new graves were opened in our presence. We were shown only several graves which had already been opened before we arrived.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Therefore, you were shown already opened graves, near which the corpses were already laid out, is that right?

MARKOV: Quite right. Near these 'opened graves were exhumed corpses already laid out there.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Were the necessary conditions for an objective and comprehensive scientific examination of the corpses given to the members of the commission?

MARKOV: The only part of our activity which could be characterized as a scientific, medico-legal examination were the autopsies carried out by certain members of the commission who were themselves medico-legal experts; but there were only seven or eight of us who could lay claim to that qualification, and as far as I recall only eight corpses were opened. Each of us operated on one corpse, except Professor Hajek, who dissected two corpses. Our further activity during these 2 days consisted of a hasty inspection under the guidance of Germans. It was like a tourists' walk during which we saw the open graves; and we were shown a peasant's house, a few kilometers distant from the Katyn wood, where in showcases papers and objects of various sorts were kept. We were told that these papers and objects had been found in the clothes of the corpses which had been exhumed.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Were you actually present when these papers were taken from the corpses or were they shown to you when they were already under glass in display cabinets?

MARKOV: The documents which we saw in the glass cases had already been removed from the bodies before we arrived.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Were you allowed to investigate these documents, to examine these documents, for instance, to see whether the papers were impregnated with any acids which had developed by the decay of the corpses, or to carry out any other kind of scientific examination?

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MARKOV: We did not carry out any scientific examination of these papers. As I have already told you, these papers were exhibited in glass cases and we did not even touch them.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: But I would like you nevertheless to answer me briefly with "yes" or "no," a question which I have already put to you. Were the members of the commission given facilities for an objective examination?

MARKOV: In my opinion these working conditions can in no way be qualified as adequate for a complete and objective scientific examination. The only thing which bore the character of the scientific nature was the autopsy which I carried out.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: But did I rightly understand you, that from the 11,000 corpses which were discovered only 8 were dissected by members of the commission.

MARKOV: Quite right.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Please answer the next question. In what condition were these corpses? I would like you to describe the state in which they were and also the state of the inner organs, the tissues, et cetera.

MARKOV: As to the condition of the corpses in the Katyn graves, I can only judge according to the state of the corpse which I myself dissected. The condition of this corpse was, as far as I could ascertain, the same as that of all the other corpses. The skin was still well preserved, was in part leathery, of a brown-red color and on some parts there were blue markings from the clothes. The nails and hair, mostly, had already fallen out. In the head of the corpse I dissected there was a small hole, a bullet wound in the back of the head. Only pulpy substance remained of the brain. The muscles were still so well preserved that one could even see the fibers of the sinews of heart muscles and valves. The inner organs were also mainly in a good state of preservation. But of course they were dried up, displaced, and of a dark color. The stomach showed traces of some sort of contents. A part of the fat had turned into wax. We were impressed by the fact that even when pulled with brute force, no limbs had detached themselves.

I dictated a report, on the spot, on the result of my investigation. A similar report was dictated by the other members of the commission who examined corpses. This report was published by the Germans, under Number 827, in the book which they published.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: I would like you to answer the following question. Did the medico-legal investigations testify to the fact that the corpses had been in the graves already for 3 years?

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MARKOV: As to that question I could judge only from the corpse on which I myself had held a post mortem. The condition of this corpse, as I have already stated, was typical of the average condition of the Katyn corpses. These corpses were far removed from the stage of disintegration of the soft parts, since the fat was only beginning to turn into wax. In my opinion these corpses were buried for a shorter period of time than 3 years. I considered that the corpse which I dissected had been buried for not more than 1 year or 18 months.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Therefore, applying the criteria of the facts which you ascertained to your experiences in Bulgaria- that is, in a country of a more southern climate than Smolensk and where decay, therefore, is more rapid-one must come to the conclusion that the corpses that were exhumed in the Katyn forest had been lying under the earth for not more than a year and a half? Did I understand you correctly?

MARKOV: Yes, quite right. I had the impression that they had been buried for not more than a year and a half.

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MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Witness, when did you, together with the other members of the commission, perform the autopsies of these eight corpses? What date was it exactly?

MARKOV: That was on 30 April, early in the day.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: And, on the basis of your personal observations, you decided that the corpses were in the ground 1 year or 18 months at the most?

MARKOV: That is correct.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Before putting the next question to you, I should like you to give me a brief answer to the following question: Is it correct that in the practice of Bulgarian medical jurisprudence the protocol about the autopsy contains two parts, a description and the deductions?

MARKOV: Yes. In our practice, as well as in the practice of other countries, so far as I know, it is done in the following way: First of all, we give a description and then the deduction.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Was a deduction contained in the record you made regarding the autopsy?

MARKOV: My record of the autopsy contained only a description without any conclusion.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Why?

MARKOV: Because from the papers which were given to us there I understood that they wanted us to say that the corpses had been in the ground for 3 years. This could be deduced from the papers which were shown to us in the little peasant hut about which I have already spoken.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: By the way, were these papers shown to you before the autopsy or afterward?

MARKOV: Yes, the papers were given us 1 day before the autopsy.

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MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: So you were. . .

THE PRESIDENT: Colonel Smirnov, you are interrupting the interpreter all the time. Before the interpreter has finished the answer, you have put another question. It is very difficult for us to hear the interpreter.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Thank you for your indication, Mr. President.

MARKOV: Inasmuch as the objective deduction regarding the autopsy I performed was in contradiction with this version, I did not make any deductions.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Consequently you did not make any deduction because the objective data of the autopsy testified to the fact that the corpses had been in the ground, not 3 years, but only 18 months?

THE PRESIDENT: Colonel Smirnov, you must remember that it is a double translation, and unless you pause more than you are pausing, your voice comes in upon the interpreter's and we cannot hear the interpreter.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Very well, Mr. President.

MARKOV: Yes, that is quite correct.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Was there unanimity among the members of the commission regarding the time the corpses had been in the graves?

MARKOV: Most of the members of the delegation who performed the autopsies the Katyn wood made their deductions without answering the essential question regarding the time the corpses had been buried. Some of them, as for instance, Professor Hajek, spoke about immaterial things; as for instance, that one of the killed had had pleurisy. Some of the others, as for instance, Professor Birkle from Bucharest, cut off some hair from a corpse in order to determine the age of the corpse. In my opinion that was quite immaterial. Professor Palmieri, on the basis of the autopsy that he performed, said that the corpse had been in the ground over a year but he did not determine exactly how long.

The only one who gave a definite statement in regard to the time the corpses had been buried was Professor Miloslavich from Zagreb, and he said it was 3 years. However, when the German book regarding Katyn was published, I read the result of his impartial statement regarding the corpse on which he had performed the autopsy. I had the impression that the corpse on which he had performed the autopsy did not differ in its stage of decomposition from the other corpses. This led me to think that his statement that the corpses had

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been in the ground for 3 years did not coincide with the facts of his description.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: I would like to ask you to reply to the following question. Were there many skulls found by the members of the commission with signs of so-called pseudocallus?

By the way, inasmuch as this term is not known in the usual books on medical jurisprudence and in general criminalistic terminology, I should like you to give us an exact explanation of what Professor Orsos, of Budapest, means by the term pseudocallus.

THE PRESIDENT: Would you repeat that question?

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Were there many skulls with signs of so-called pseudocallus which were submitted to the members of the commission? Inasmuch as this term is not known in the usual books on medical jurisprudence, I should like you to give us a detailed explanation of what Professor Orsos means by the term pseudo callus.

THE PRESIDENT: What are you saying the skulls had? You asked if there were many skulls with something or other.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: I see this term for the first time, myself, Mr. President. It is pseudocallus. It seems to be a Latin' term of some sort of corn which is formed on the outer surface of

the cerebral substance.

THE PRESIDENT: Can you spell the word in Latin?

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Yes, Mr. President.



THE PRESIDENT: What you have written here is p-s-e-r-d-o. Do you mean p-s-e-u-d-o, which means false?

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Yes, that is right, pseudo.

THE PRESIDENT: Now then, put your question again, and try to put it shortly.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Yes.

Were there many skulls with signs of so-called pseudocallus shown to the members of the commission? Will you please give an exact explanation of this term of Professor Orsos'.

MARKOV: Professor Orsos spoke to us regarding pseudocallus at a general conference of the delegates. That took place on 30 April, in the afternoon, in the building where the field laboratory of Dr. Butz in Smolensk was located.

Professor Orsos described the term pseudocallus as meaning some sediment of indissoluble salt, of calcium, and other salts on the inside of the cranium. Professor Orsos stated that, according to his

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observations in Hungary, this happened if the corpses have been in the ground for at least 3 years. When Professor Orsos stated this at the scientific conference, none of the delegates said anything either for or against it. I deduced from that that this term pseudocallus was as unknown to the other delegates as it was to me.

At the same conference Professor Orsos showed us such a pseudocallus on one of the skulls.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: I should like you to answer the following question: What number did the corpse have from which this skull with signs of pseudocallus was taken?

MARKOV: The corpse from which the skull was taken and which was noted in the book bore the Number 526. From this I deduced that this corpse was exhumed before our arrival at Katyn, inasmuch as all the other corpses on which we performed autopsies on 30 April had numbers which ran above 800. It was explained to us that as soon as a corpse was exhumed it immediately received a consecutive number.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Ten me this, please. Did you notice any pseudocallus on the skulls of the corpses on which you and your colleagues performed autopsies?

MARKOV: On the skull of the corpse on which I performed an autopsy, there was some sort of pulpy substance in place of the brain, but I never noticed any sign of pseudocallus. The other dele

gates-after the explanation of Professor Orsos-likewise did not state that they had found any pseudocallus in the other skulls. Even Butz and his co-workers, who had examined the corpses before our arrival, did not mention any sign of pseudocallus.

Later on, in a book which was published by the Germans and which contained the report of Butz, I noticed that Butz referred to pseudocallus in order to give more weight to his statement that the corpses had been in the ground for 3 years.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: That is to say, that of the 11,000 corpses only one skull was submitted to you which had pseudocallus?

MARKOV: That is quite correct.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: I should like you to describe to the Tribunal in detail the state of the clothing which you found on the corpses.

MARKOV: In general the clothing was well preserved, but of course it was damp due to the decomposition of the corpses. When we pulled off the clothing to undress the corpses, or when we tried to take off the shoes, the clothing did not tear nor did the shoes fall apart at the seams. I even had the impression that this clothing could have been used again, after having been cleaned.

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There were some papers found in the pockets of the clothing of the corpse on which I performed the autopsy, and these papers were also impregnated with the dampness of the corpse. Some of the Germans who were present when I was performing the autopsy asked me to describe those papers and their contents; but I refused to do it, thinking that this was not the duty of a doctor. In fact I had already noticed the previous day that with the help of the dates contained in those papers, they were trying to make us think that the corpses had remained in the ground for 3 years.

Therefore, I wanted to base my deductions only on the actual condition of the corpses. Some of the other delegates who performed autopsies also found some papers in the clothing of the corpses. The papers which had been found in the clothing of the corpse on which I performed the autopsy were put into a cover which bore the same number as the corpse, Number 827. Later on, in the book which was published by the Germans, I perceived that some of the delegates described the contents of the papers which were found on the corpses.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: I should like to ask you to reply to the following question. On what impartial medico-judicial data did the commission base the deduction that the corpses had remained in the earth not less than 3 years?

THE PRESIDENT: Will you put the question again? I did not understand the question.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: I asked on what impartial medico-judicial data were the deductions of the protocol of the International Medical Commission based, which stated that the corpses had remained in the ground not less than 3 years?

THE PRESIDENT: Has he said that that was the deduction he made-not less than 3 years?

THE TRIBUNAL (Mr. Biddle): He has not said that.

THE PRESIDENT: He has not said that at all. He never said that he made the deduction that the corpses remained in the ground not less than 3 years.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: He did not make this deduction; but Professor Markov, together with the other members of the commission, signed a report of the International Commission.

THE PRESIDENT: I know; but that is why I ask you to repeat your question. The question that was translated to us was: On what grounds did you make your deduction that the corpses had remained in the ground not less than 3 years-which is the opposite of what he said.

Now will you put the question again?

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MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV. Very well.

I am not asking you about your personal minutes, Witness, but about the general record of the entire commission. I am asking you on what impartial medico-judicial data were the deductions of the entire commission based, that the corpses had remained in the earth not less than 3 years. On the record of the deductions your signature figures among those of the other members of the commission.

THE PRESIDENT: Wait a minute. Now, then, Colonel Smirnov, will you put the question again.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Yes, Mr. President.

I was asking you on what impartial medicojudicial data were the deductions of the commission based- not the individual report of Dr. Markov, in which there are no deductions-but the deductions of the entire commission, that the corpses had remained not less than 3 years in the ground?

MARKOV: The collective protocol of the commission which was signed by all the delegates was very scant regarding the real medicojudicial data. Concerning the condition of the corpses, only one sentence in the report was stated, namely that the corpses were in various stages of decomposition, but there was no description of the real extent of decomposition.

Thus, in my opinion, this deduction was based on the papers found on the corpses and on testimony of the witnesses, but not on the actual medicojudicial data. As far as medical jurisprudence is concerned, they tried to support this deduction by the statement of Professor Orsos regarding the finding of pseudocallus in the skull of corpse Number 526.

But, according to my conviction, since this skull was the only one with signs of pseudocallus, it was wrong to arrive at a definite conclusion regarding the stage of decomposition of thousands of corpses which were contained in the Katyn graves. Besides, the observation of Professor Orsos regarding pseudocallus was made in Hungary; that is to say, under quite different soil and climatic conditions, and withal in individual graves and not in mass graves, as was the case in Katyn.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: You spoke about the testimony of witnesses. Did the members of the commission have the opportunity personally to interrogate those witnesses, especially the Russian witnesses?

MARKOV: We did not have the opportunity of having any contact with the indigenous population. On the contrary, immediately upon our arrival at the hotel in Smolensk, Butz told us that we were in a military zone, and that we did not have the right to

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walk around in the city without being accompanied by a member of the German Army, or to speak with the inhabitants of the place, or to make photographs. In reality, during the time we were there, we did not have any contact with the local inhabitants.

On the first day of our arrival in the Katyn wood, that is to say, on 29 April, in the morning, several Russian civilians were brought under German escort to the graves. Immediately upon our arrival at Smolensk some of the depositions of the local witnesses were submitted to us. The depositions were typed. When these witnesses were brought to the Katyn wood, we were told that these witnesses were the ones who gave the testimonies which had been submitted to us. There was no regular interrogation of the witnesses which could have been recorded, or were recorded. Professor Orsos started the conversation with the witnesses and told us that he could speak Russian because he had been a prisoner of war in Russia during the first World War. He began to speak with a man, an elderly man whose name, so far as I can remember, was Kiselov. Then he spoke to a second witness, whose last name so far as I can remember was Andrejev. All the conversation lasted a few minutes only. As our Bulgarian language is rather similar to the Russian, I tried also to speak to some of the witnesses...

THE PRESIDENT: Don't you think that should be left to cross-examination? Can't these details be left to cross-examination?

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Yes, Mr. President.

I would ask you, Witness, to interrupt the reply to this question and to answer the following one: At the time you signed this general report of the commission, was it quite clear to you that the murders were perpetrated in Katyn not earlier than the last quarter of 1941, and that 1940, in any case, was excluded?

MARKOV: Yes, this was absolutely clear to me and that is why I did not make any deductions in the minutes which I made on my findings in the Katyn wood.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Why did you sign then this general report, which was incorrect in your opinion?

MARKOV: In order to make it quite clear under what conditions I signed this report, I should like to say a few words on how it was made up and how it was signed.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Excuse me, I would like to put a question to you which defines more accurately this matter. Was this report actually signed on 30 April 1941 in the town of Smolensk or was it signed on another date and at another place?

MARKOV: It was not signed in Smolensk on 30 April but was signed on 1 May at noon, at the airport which was called Bela.

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MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Will you please tell the Tribunal under what conditions it was signed.

MARKOV: The compilation of this record was to be done at the same conference which I already mentioned and which took place in the laboratory of Butz in the afternoon of 30 April. Present at this conference were all the delegates and all the Germans who had arrived with us from Berlin: Butz and his assistants, General Staff Physician Holm, the chief physician of the Smolensk sector, and also other German Army officials who were unknown to me. Butz stated that the Germans were only present as hosts, but actually the conference was presided over by General Staff Physician Holm and the work was performed under the direction of Butz. The secretary of the conference was the personal lady secretary of Butz who took down the report. However, I never saw these minutes. Butz and Orsos came with a prepared draft to this conference, a sort of protocol; but I never learned who ordered them to draw up such a protocol. This protocol was read by Butz and then a question was raised regarding the state and the age of the young pines which were in the clearings of the Katyn wood. Butz was of the opinion that in these clearings there were graves too.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Excuse me for interrupting you. Did you have any evidence that any graves were actually found in these clearings?

MARKOV: No. During the time we were there, no new graves were opened. As some of the delegates said they were not competent to express their opinion regarding the age of these trees, General Holm gave an order to bring a German who was an expert on forestry. He showed us the cut of the trunk of a small tree and from the number of circles in this trunk, he deduced the trees were 5 years old.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Excuse me; I interrupt you again. You, yourself-can you state here that this tree was actually cut down from the grave and not from any other place in the clearing?

MARKOV: I can say only that in the Katyn wood there were some clearings with small trees and that, while driving back to Smolensk, we took a little tree with us in the bus, but I do not know whether there were any graves where these trees were standing. As I have already stated, no graves were laid open in our presence.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: I would request you to continue your reply, but very briefly and not to detain the attention, of the Tribunal with unnecessary details.

MARKOV: Some editorial notes were made in connection with this protocol, but I do not remember what they were. Then Orsos

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and Butz were entrusted with the final drafting of the record. The signing of the record was intended to take place on the same night at a banquet which was organized in a German Army hospital. At this banquet Butz arrived with the minutes and he started reading them, but the actual signing did not take place for reasons which are still not clear to me. It was stated that this record would have to be rewritten, so the banquet lasted until 3 or 4 o'clock in the morning. Then Professor Palmieri told me that the Germans were not pleased with the contents of the protocol and that they were carrying on telephone conversations with Berlin and that perhaps there would not even be a protocol at all.

Indeed, having spent the night in Smolensk without having signed the record, we took off from Smolensk on the morning of 1 May. I personally had the impression that no protocol at all would be issued and I was very pleased about that. On the way to Smolensk, as well as on our way back, some of the delegates asked to stop in Warsaw in order to see the city, but we were told that it was impossible because of military reasons.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: This has nothing to do with the subject. Please keep to the facts.

MARKOV: Around noon we arrived at the airport which was called Bela. The airport was apparently a military airfield because of the temporary military barracks I saw there. We had dinner there and immediately after dinner, notwithstanding the fact that we were not told that the signing of the minutes would take place on the way to Berlin, we were submitted copies of the protocol for signature. During the signing a number of military persons were present, as there were no other people except military personnel on this airfield. I was rather struck by the fact that on the one hand the records were already completed in Smolensk but were not submitted to us for signing there, and on the other hand that they did not wait till we arrived in Berlin a few hours later. They were submitted to us for signing at this isolated military airfield. This was the reason why I signed the report, in spite of the conviction I had acquired during the autopsy which I had performed at Smolensk.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: That is to say, the date and the locality which are shown in the protocol are incorrect?

MARKOV: Yes, that is so.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: And you signed it because you felt yourself compelled to?

THE PRESIDENT: Colonel Smirnov, I don't think it is proper for you to put leading questions to him. He has stated the fact. It is useless to go on stating conclusions about it.

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MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Very well, Mr. President. I have no further questions to put to the witness. !

THE PRESIDENT: Does anyone want to cross-examine him?

DR. STAHMER: Mr. President, I should like to ask a question

concerning the legal proceedings first. Each side was to call three witnesses before the Court. This witness, as I understand it, has not only testified to facts but has also made statements which can be called an expert judgment. He has not only expressed himself as an expert witness, as we say in German law, but also as an expert. If the Court is to listen to these statements made by the witness as an expert, I should like to have the opportunity for the Defense also to call in an expert.

THE PRESIDENT: No, Dr. Stahmer, the Tribunal will not hear more than three witnesses on either side. You could have called any expert you wanted or any member of the experts who made the German examination. It was your privilege to call any of them.

DR. STAHMER: Witness, how long have you been active in the field of medical jurisprudence?

MARKOV: I have been working in the field of medical jurisprudence since the beginning of 1927 in the faculty for medical jurisprudence of the University in Sofia, first as an assistant and now I am professor of medical jurisprudence. I am not a staff professor

at the university. My position can be designated by the German word "Ausserordentlicher Professor" (university lecturer).

DR. STAHMER: Before your visit to Katyn did your government tell you that you were to participate in a political action without consideration of your scientific qualification?

MARKOV: I was not told so literally, but in the press the Katyn question was discussed as a political subject.

DR. STAHMER: Did you feel free in regard to your scientific "conscience" at that time?

MARKOV: At what time?

DR. STAHMER: At the time when you went to Katyn?

MARKOV: The question is not quite clear to me; I should like you to explain it.

DR. STAHMER: Did you consider the task you had to carry out there a political one or a scientific one?

MARKOV: I understood this task from the very first moment as a political one and therefore I tried to evade it.

DR. STAHMER: Did you realize the outstanding political importance of this task?

MARKOV: Yes; from everything I read in the press.

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DR. STAHMER: In your examination yesterday you said that when you arrived at Katyn the graves had already been opened and certain corpses had been carefully laid out. Do you mean to say that these corpses were not taken from the graves at all?

MARKOV: No, I should not say that, inasmuch as it was obvious that corpses were taken out of these graves and besides I saw that some corpses were still in the graves.

DR. STAHMER: Then, in order to state this positively, you had no reason to think that the corpses inspected by the commission were not taken from these mass graves?

THE PRESIDENT: He did not know where they came from, did he'

MARKOV: Evidently from the graves which were open.

DR. STAHMER: You have already made statements to the effect that, as a result of the medicojudicial examination by this International Commission, a protocol, a record was taken down. You have furthermore stated that you signed this protocol.

Mr. President, this protocol is contained in its full text in the official data published by the German Government on this incident. I ask that this evidence, this so-called White Book, be admitted as evidence. I will submit it to the Court later.

THE PRESIDENT: We will adjourn now.



THE PRESIDENT: Dr. Stahmer, the Tribunal rules that you may cross-examine this witness upon the report, and the protocol will be admitted in evidence, if you offer it in evidence, under Article 19 of the Charter. That, of course, involves that we do not take judicial notice of the report under Article 21 of the Charter but that it is offered under Article 19 of the Charter and therefore it will either come through the earphones in cross-examination or such parts of the protocol as you wish to have translated.

DR. STAHMER: Witness, was the protocol or the record signed by you and the other experts compiled in the same way in which it is included in the German White Book? '

MARKOV: Yes, the record of the protocol which is included in the German White Book is the same protocol which I compiled. A long time after my return to Sofia I was sent two copies of the protocol by Director Dietz. These two copies were typewritten, and I was requested to make necessary corrections and additions if I deemed it necessary, but I left it without corrections and it was printed without any comments on my part.

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MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Just a moment Dr. Stahmer . . .

Mr. President, I believe that there is a slight confusion here. The witness is answering in regard to the individual protocol, whereas Dr. Stahmer is questioning him on the general record. Thus the witness does not answer the proper question.

DR. STAHMER: Mr. President, I would have cleared this matter up on my own account.

Do you mean your autopsy protocol?

MARKOV: I mean the protocol I compiled myself and not the general record.

DR. STAHMER: Now, what about this general protocol or record? 'hen did you receive a copy of it?

MARKOV: I received a copy of the general record in Berlin where as many copies were signed as there were delegates present.

DR. STAHMER: Just a little while ago you stated that Russian witnesses had been taken before the commission in the wood of Katyn, but that, however, there had been no opportunity afforded the experts to talk with these witnesses concerning the question at hand.

Now, in this protocol, in this record, the following remark is found, and I quote:

"The commission interrogated several indigenous Russian witnesses personally. Among other things, these witnesses confirmed that in the months of March and April 1940 large shipments of Polish officers arrived almost daily at the railroad station Gnjesdova near Katyn. These trains were emptied, the inmates were taken in lorries to the wood of Katyn and never seen again. Furthermore, official notice was taken of the proofs and statements, and the documents containing the evidence were inspected."

MARKOV: As I already stated during the questioning, two witnesses were interrogated on the spot by Orsos. They actually said that they saw how Polish officers were brought to the station of Gnjesdova and that later they did not see them again.

Am; PRESIDENT: Dr. Stahmer, the Tribunal thinks the witness ought to be given an opportunity of seeing the report when you put passages in it to him.

DR. STAHMER: Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Haven't you got another copy of it?

DR. STAHMER: I am sorry, Mr. President, I have no second copy; no.

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THE PRESIDENT: Can the witness read German?

MARKOV: No, but anyhow I can understand the contents of the record.

THE PRESIDENT: You mean you can read it?

MARKOV: Yes, I can also read it.

THE PRESIDENT: Can the witness read German, do you mean?

MARKOV: Yes, I can read German.

DR. STAHMER: Mr. President, may I make a suggestion?

THE PRESIDENT: Dr. Stahmer, if you have only got one copy, I think you had better have it back. You can't have the book passing to and fro like that.

DR. STAHMER: I should like to make the suggestion that the cross-examination be interrupted and the other witness be called, and I will have this material typed in the meantime. That would be a solution. But there are only a few sentences...

THE PRESIDENT: You can read it. Take the book back.

DR. STAHMER: Mr. President, I propose to read only a few short sentences.

Yesterday you testified, Witness, that the experts restricted or limited themselves to making an autopsy on one corpse only. In this report the following is set down-I quote:

"The members of the commission personally performed an autopsy on nine corpses and numerous selected cases were submitted for post-mortem examination."

Is that right?

MARKOV: That is right. Those of the members of the commission who were medical experts, with the exception of Professor Naville, performed each an autopsy on a corpse. Hajek made two autopsies.

DR. STAHMER: In this instance we are not interested in the autopsy, but in the post-mortem examination.

MARKOV: The corpses were examined but only superficially during an inspection which we carried out very hastily on the first day. No individual autopsy was carried out, but the corpses were merely looked at as they lay side by side.

DR. STAHMER: I should like to ask you now what is meant in medical science by the concept "post-mortem examination."

MARKOV: We differentiate between an exterior inspection, when the corpse has to be undressed and minutely examined externally, and an internal inspection, when the inner organs of the

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corpse are examined. This was not done with the hundreds of bodies at Katyn, as it was not physically possible. We were there only one forenoon. Therefore, I consider that there was no actual medicojudicial expert examination of these corpses in the real sense of the word.

DR. STAHMER: A little while ago you talked about the trees that were growing there on these graves, and you said that an expert explained the age of the trees by the rings counted on a trunk. In the protocol and the report the following is set down. I quote: ,

"According to the opinion of the members of the commission and the testimony of forest ranger Von Herff, who was called in as an expert on forestry, they were small pine trees of at least 5 years of age, badly developed because they had been standing in the shade of large trees and had been transplanted to this spot about 3 years ago."

Now, I would like to ask you, is it correct that you undertook a local inspection and that you convinced yourself on the spot whether the statements made by the forestry expert were actually correct?

MARKOV: Our personal impression and my personal conviction in this question only refer to the fact that in the wood of Katyn there were clearings where small trees were growing and that the afore-mentioned expert showed us a cross section of a tree with its circles. But I do not consider myself competent and cannot give an opinion as to whether the deductions which are set forth in the record are correct or not. Precisely for that reason it was judged necessary to call in a forestry expert, for we doctors were not competent to decide this question. Therefore, these conclusions are merely the conclusions of a competent German expert.

DR. STAHMER: But after having had a first-hand view, did you doubt the truth of these statements?

MARKOV: After the German expert had expressed his opinion at the conference of the delegates, neither I nor the other delegates expressed any opinion as to whether his conclusions were correct or not. These conclusions are set down in the record in the form in which the expert expressed himself.

DR. STAHMER: According to your autopsy report the corpse of the Polish officer which you dissected was clothed and you described the clothing in detail. Was this winter or summer clothing that you found?

MARKOV: It was winter clothing including an overcoat and a woolen shawl around the neck.

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DR. STAHMER: In the protocol it says further and I quote:

"Furthermore, Polish cigarettes and matchboxes were found with the dead; in some cases tobacco containers and cigarette holders, and 'Kosielsk' was inscribed thereon."

The question is, did you see these objects?

MARKOV: We actually saw these tobacco boxes with the name "Kosielsk" engraved thereon. They were exhibited to us in the glass case which was shown to us in the peasant hut not far from the Katyn wood. I remember them because Butz drew our attention to them.

DR. STAHMER: In your autopsy report, Witness, there is the following remark, and I quote:

"In the clothing documents were found and they were put in the folder Number 827."

Now, I should like to ask you: How did you discover these documents? Did you personally take them out of the pockets?

MARKOV: These papers were in the pockets of the overcoat and of the jacket. As far as I can remember they were taken out by a German who was undressing the corpse in my presence.

DR. STAHMER: At that time were the documents already in the envelope?

MARKOV: They were not yet in the envelope, but after they had been taken out of the pockets they were put into an envelope which bore the number of the corpse. We were told that this was the usual method of procedure.

DR. STAHMER: What was the nature of the documents?

MARKOV: I did not examine them at all, as I have already said, and I refused to do so, but according to the size I believe that they were certificates of identity. I could distinguish individual letters, but I do not know whether one could read the inscription, for I did not attempt to do so.

DR. STAHMER: In the protocol the following statement is made, and I quote:

"The documents found with the corpses (diaries, letters, and newspapers) were dated from the fall of 1939 until March and April 1940. The latest date which could be ascertained was the date of a Russian newspaper of 22 April 1940."

Now, I should like to ask you if this statement is correct and whether it is in accordance with the findings that you made?

MARKOV: Such letters and newspapers were indeed in the glass cases and were shown to us. Some such papers were found by members of the commission who were dissecting the bodies, and if I

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remember rightly, they described the contents of these documents, but I did not do so.

DR. STAHMER: In your examination just a little while ago you stated that only a few scientific details were contained in this protocol and that this was probably done intentionally. I should like to quote from this record as follows:

"Various degrees and types of decomposition were caused by the position of the bodies to one another in the grave. Aside from some mummification on the surface and around the edges of the mass of corpses, some damp maceration was found among the center corpses. The sticking together of the adjacent corpses and the soldering together of corpses through cadaverous acids and fluids which had thickened, and particularly the deformations that obtained from the pressure among the corpses, show that the corpses were buried there right from the beginning.

"Among the corpses, insects or remains of insects which might date back to the time of burial are entirely lacking, and from this it may be gathered that the shooting and the burial took place at a season which was cold and free from insects."

Now, I should like to ask you if these statements are correct and if they are in line with your findings.

MARKOV: I stated that lithe was said on the condition of the corpses, and indeed as can be judged by the quotation which I had in mind, only a general phraseology is used concerning the various degrees of decomposition of the corpses, but no concrete or detailed description of the condition of the corpses is made.

As to the insects and their larvae, the assertion of the general report that none were discovered is in flagrant contradiction to the conclusions of Professor Palmieri, which are recorded in his personal minutes concerning the corpse which he himself dissected. In this protocol, which is published in the same German White Book, it is said that there were traces of remains of insects and their larvae in the mouths of the corpses.

DR. STAHMER: Just a little while ago you spoke of the scientific examination of skulls undertaken by Professor Orsos. The record also refers to this matter, and I quote:

"A large number of skulls were examined with respect to the changes they had undergone, which, according to the background and experience of Professor Orsos, would be of great value in fixing the date of death. In this connection, we are concerned with stratified encrustations on the surface of the mush found in the skull as a residue of the brain. These symptoms are not to be found among corpses which have

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been in their graves for less than 3 years. Such a condition, among other things, was found in a very decided form in the skull of corpse Number 526, which was found near the surface of a large mass grave."

I should like to ask you now if it is correct that, according to the report of Professor Orsos, such a condition was discovered not only as is said here on the skull of one corpse, but among other corpses also.

MARKOV: I can answer this question quite categorically. We were shown only one skull, the one precisely mentioned in the record under the Number 526. I do not know that other skulls were examined, as the record seems to imply. I am of the opinion that Professor Orsos had no possibility of examining many corpses in the Katyn wood, for he came with us and left with us. That means he stayed in the Katyn wood just as long as I and all the other members of the commission did.

DR. STAHMER: Finally, I should like to quote the conclusion of the summarizing expert opinion, in which it is stated:

"From statements made by witnesses, from the letters and correspondence, diaries, newspapers, and so forth, found on the corpses, it may be seen that the shootings took place in the months of March and April 1940. The following are in complete agreement with the findings made with regard to the mass graves and the individual corpses of the Polish officers, as described in the report."

Is this statement actually correct?

THE PRESIDENT: I did not quite understand the statement. As I heard you read it, it was something like this: From the statements of witnesses, letters, and so forth. . .

DR. STAHMER: ". . . in complete agreement with the findings made with regard to the mass graves and the individual corpses of the Polish officers and described in the report." That is the end of the quotation.

THE PRESIDENT: It doesn't say that the following persons are in complete agreement, but that the following facts are in complete agreement. Is that right?

DR. STAHMER: No. My question is "Is this statement approved by you? Do you agree with it?"

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I know, but you read out certain words, which were these: "The following are in complete agreement." What I want to know is whether that means that the following persons are in complete agreement, or whether the following facts are in complete agreement.

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DR. STAHMER: Special facts had been set down, and this is a summarizing expert opinion signed by all the members of the commission. Therefore, we have here a scientific explanation of the real facts.

THE PRESIDENT: Would you just listen to what I read out from what I took down? "From the statements of witnesses, letters, and other documents, it may be seen that the shooting took place in the months of March and April 1940. The following are in complete agreement." What I am asking you is this-



Just a moment, Dr. Stahmer, listen to what I say. What I am asking you is: Does the statement mean that the following persons are in complete agreement, or that the following facts are in complete agreement?

DR. STAHMER: No, no. The following people testify that this fact, the fact that the shootings took place in the months of March and April 1940, agrees with the results of their investigations of the mass graves and of individual corpses. That is what is meant and that is the conclusion. What has been found here is in agreement with that which has been set down and determined scientifically. That is the meaning.

THE PRESIDENT: Go on.

DR. STAHMER: Is this final deduction in accord with your scientific conviction?

MARKOV: I have already indicated that this statement regarding the condition of the corpses is based on the date resulting from testimony by the witnesses and from the available documents, but it is in contradiction to the observations I made on the corpse which I dissected. That means I did not consider that the results of the autopsies corroborated the presumable date of death to be taken from the testimony or the documents. If I had been convinced that the condition of the corpses did indeed correspond to the date of decease mentioned by the Germans, I would have given such a statement in my individual protocol.

When I saw the signed protocol I became suspicious as to the last sentence of the record-the sentence which precedes the signatures. I always had doubts whether this sentence was contained in that draft of the protocol which we saw at the conference in Smolensk.

As far as I could understand, the draft of the protocol which had been elaborated in Smolensk only stated that we actually were shown papers and that we heard witnesses; and this was supposed to prove that the killings were carried out in March or April of 1940.

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I was of the opinion that the fact that the conclusion was not based on medical opinion and not supported absolutely by medical reports and examination, was the reason why the signing of the protocol was postponed and why the record was not signed in Smolensk.

DR. STAHMER: Witness, at the beginning of my examination you stated that you were fully aware of the political significance of your task. Why, then, did you desist from protesting against this report which was not in accord with your scientific conviction?

MARKOV: I have already said that I signed the protocol as I was convinced that the circumstances at this isolated military airfield offered no other possibility, and therefore I could not make any objections.

DR. STAHMER: Why did you not take steps later on?

MARKOV: My conduct after the signing of the protocol corresponds fully to what I am stating here, I repeat. I was not convinced of the truth of the German version. I was invited many times to Berlin by Director Dietz. I was also invited to Sofia by the German Embassy. And in Bulgaria, the Bulgarian Foreign Office also invited me to make a public statement over the radio and to the press; and I was requested to say what conclusions we had come to during our investigation. However, I did not do so, and I always refused to do so. Because of the political situation in which we found ourselves at that moment, I could not make a public statement declaring the German version was wrong.

Concerning that matter there were quite sharp -words exchanged between me and the German Embassy in Sofia. And when, a few months later, another Bulgarian representative was asked to be sent as a member of a similar commission for the investigation of the corpses in Vinnitza in the Ukraine, the German Ambassador Beckerly stated quite openly to the Bulgarian Foreign Office that the Germans did not wish me to be sent to Vinnitza.

That indicated that the Germans very well understood my behavior and my opinion on that matter. Concerning this question, Minister Plenipotentiary Saratov, of our Foreign Office, still has shorthand records about conversations which, if the Honored Tribunal considers it necessary, can be sent here from Bulgaria.

Therefore, all my refusals, after I had signed the protocol, to carry on any activity for the purpose of propaganda, fully correspond to what I said here, namely that the conclusions laid down in the collective protocol do not answer my personal conviction. And I will repeat that if I had been convinced that the corpses were buried for 3 years, I would have testified this after having dissected a corpse. But I have left my personal protocol incomplete

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and this is a quite unusual thing in the case of medico-judicial examination.

DR. STAHMER: The protocol was not signed by you alone, but on the contrary it carries the signatures of 11 representatives of science, whose names you gave yesterday, some of them of world renown. Among these men we find a scientist of a neutral country, Professor Naville.

Did you take the opportunity to get in touch with one of these experts in the meantime with a view of reaching a rectification of the report?

MARKOV: I cannot say on what considerations the other delegates signed the protocol. But they also signed it under the same circumstances as I did. However, when I read the individual protocols, I notice that they also refrained from stating the precise date of the killing of the man whose corpse they had dissected. There was one exception only, as I have already said. That was Professor Niloslavich, who was the only one who asserted that the corpse which he had dissected was that of a man buried for at least 3 years. After the signing of the protocol, I did not have any contact with any of the persons who had signed the collective protocol.

DR. STAHMER: Witness, you gave two versions, one in the protocol which we have just discussed, and another here before the Court. Which version is the correct one?

MARKOV: I do not understand, which two versions you are speaking about. Will you please explain it?

DR. STAHMER: In the first version, in the protocol, it is set forth that according to the conclusion which had been made, the shooting must have taken place 3 years ago. Today you testified that the findings were not correct, and between the shooting and the time of your investigations there could only be a space of perhaps 18 months.

MARKOV: I stated that the conclusions of the collective protocol do not correspond with my personal conviction.

DR. STAHMER: "Did not correspond" or "do not correspond with your conviction"?

MARKOV: It did not and it does not correspond with my opinion then and now.

DR. STAHMER: I have no further questions.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Mr. President, I have no further questions to put to this witness.

THE PRESIDENT: Witness, were any of the bodies which were examined by the members of this delegation exhumed from the ground in your presence?

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MARKOV: The corpses which we dissected were selected among the top layers of the graves which had been already exhumed. They were taken out of the graves and given to us for dissection.

THE PRESIDENT: Was there anything to indicate, in your opinion, that the corpses had not been buried in those graves?

MARKOV: As far as traces are concerned, and as far as the layers of corpses were preserved, they were stuck to each other; so that if they had been transferred, I do not believe that this could have been done recently. This could not have been done immediately before our arrival.

THE PRESIDENT: You mean that you think the corpses had been buried in those graves?

MARKOV: I cannot say whether they were put into those graves immediately after death had come, as I have no data to confirm this, but they did not look as if they had just been put there.

THE PRESIDENT: Is it possible, in your opinion as an expert, to fix the date of March or April or such a short period as that, 3 years before the examination which you have made?

MARKOV: I believe that if one relies exclusively on medical data, that is to say, on the state and condition of the corpses, it is impossible, when it is a question of years, to determine the date with such precision and say accurately whether they were killed in March or in April. Therefore, apparently the months of March and April were not based on the medical data, for that would be impossible, but on the testimony of the witnesses and on the documents which were shown us.

THE PRESIDENT: When you got back to Sofia, you said that the protocol was sent to you for your observations and for your corrections and that you made none. Why was that?

MARKOV: We are concerned with the individual protocol which I compiled. I did not supplement it by making any conclusion, I did not add any conclusion because it was sent to me by the Germans and because in general at that time the political situation in our country was such that I could not declare publicly that the German version was not a true one.

THE PRESIDENT: Do you mean that your personal protocol alone was sent to you at Sofia?

MARKOV: Yes, only my personal protocol was sent to Sofia. As to the collective protocol, I brought that back myself to Sofia and handed it over to our Foreign Minister.

THE PRESIDENT: Is your personal protocol, in the words that you drew it up, incorporated in the whole protocol and signed by all the delegates?

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2 July 46

MARKOV: In my personal protocol there is only a description of the corpse and of the clothing of the corpse which I dissected.

THE PRESIDENT: That is not the question I asked.

MARKOV: In the general protocol a rough description only is made, concerning the clothing and the degree of decomposition.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, do you mean that your personal protocol . . .

MARKOV: I consider that the personal protocols are more accurate regarding the condition of the corpses, because they were compiled during the dissection and were dictated on the spot to the stenographers.

THE PRESIDENT: Just listen to the question, please. Is your personal protocol, in the words in which you drew it up, incorporated in the collective protocol in the same words?

MARKOV: My own protocol is not included in the general record, but it is included in the White Book which the Germans published together with the general record.

THE PRESIDENT: It is there, then, in the report, is it? It is in the White Book?

MARKOV: Yes, quite right. It is included in this book.

THE PRESIDENT: The witness can retire. Yes, Colonel Smirnov, do you have another witness?



Day 168, Monday, 1 July 1946: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/07-01-46.asp
Day 169, Tuesday, 2 July 1946: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/07-02-46.asp

2 other witnesses were also interviewed (a max was set at 3), BAZILEVSKY, "the first deputy mayor of Smolensk during the period of the German occupation" (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/07-01-46.asp) and PROSOROVSKI, the chair of the "Medico-Judicial Commission of experts" of the "Special Commission for investigation and ascertaining of the circumstances of the shootings by the German Fascist aggressors of Polish officers" (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/07-02-46.asp). Both are also worth reading if interested in Katyn. The testemony of the 3 Nazi witnesses is also there for reading.

#614
Aleksandr, if u felt like doing any more polish-english traslation, the confessions of Petr K. Soprunenko, Dmitri S. Tokarev, and Mitrofan V. Syromiatnikov have never been traslated into english and are only availible in polish (not even in the original russian lol):

https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/research/katyn_nkvd.html
#615
I checked up on it and I doubt there are Russian sources but first I'll see if some translation from Polish to Russian will turn up something.

That being said, referencing Soprunenko's wikipedia page got me this masterpiece so I feel I'm off to a good start
#616
speaking of bad wiki references, the Katyn massacre page references the CIA website 26 times, 16 more times than the next used reference
#617
I've searched high and low for a Russian primary source for the Soprunenko interrogation and there are none. It is obviously an interview with a prosecutor for the WSW, which is an odd Polish military organization that's half MP and half Stasi. Read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Military_Service

I'm going to start doing some translations from the questions, and I think I'll put them up for suggestions as to which answers to transcribe and translate first.
#618
aleksandr, if u are still around - did you make any progress translating the Soprunenko interrogation to english?
#619
Haha keep them coming, comedy name blog http://workersspatula.wordpress.com/2016/09/06/new-stalin-biography-composed-entirely-of-apocryphal-quotations/
#620
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#621
ive been going through some of the stuff in the US national archives katyn archive

see here: https://www.archives.gov/research/foreign-policy/katyn-massacre/

and here for the documents : https://catalog.archives.gov/search?q=Katyn

and came across the following (unfortunatly dont have the time to digitise). This is Captain Stanley S B Gilder's accont of when he and a number of other pows were taken to Katyn when the Nazi's were excavating, prior to the "international observers" vist (which Stahmer was part of, see above), doubly interesting as Gilder was a doctor.







this was the same visit that van Vleit was on, who gave testemony, which was then lost and re-written seveal years later.

edit: its here: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6256945
#622
fyi snyder's got a new NYT op-ed promoting the Russia Took R 'Lections narrative

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/opinion/how-a-russian-fascist-is-meddling-in-americas-election.html?ref=world
#623
First of all, if you saw me bump this thread and were hoping I'd done new chapter, hahahaha! Haha! Owned! I've owned you!

I just wanted to know if anyone with academic journal access can get us anything Furr published in the past, on the subject of medieval english literature. Its for a project. Heck, I guess this thread is a poject.
#624
furr's made his own 1979 phd dissertation available online here:

https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/diss/disstoc.html
#625
Thats really cool but its just a bit too complicated. Thanks anywy
#626
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#627
https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/npt.html

here's another thing for free. much shorter article. wish furr's website was a bit easier to navigate.

edit: and two more
https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/pmr.html
https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/medethum.html

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#628
looks like DPRK scholarship has its own tim snyder in charles armstrong

https://www.nknews.org/2016/10/tyranny-of-the-weak-the-row-engulfing-north-korean-studies/

excerpts:

“Tyranny of the Weak”: The row engulfing North Korean studies

The book, which examines DPRK foreign policy in the Cold War, has come under fire for its sourcing

Andrei Lankov October 5th, 2016

As some of our readers are aware, the sleepy field of North Korean studies is now engulfed in a major controversy which, as time goes by, looks increasingly serious. NK News has already written about the emerging problem, and perhaps it is time to explain briefly what has happened and why our field is in such disarray.

In 2013, Cornell University Press published a book by Dr. Charles Armstrong, a professor at Columbia University, and a well-known specialist on North Korean history. The book, titled ‘Tyranny of the Weak’, was meant to be a general review of the North Korean foreign policy since the 1950s. The work was initially met favorably, and many people, including myself, recommended the book as a systematic and readable introduction to the subject. But worrying problems began to emerge with the book soon after, and as time went on, the situation looked increasingly bizarre.

PROBLEMS EMERGE

The book, as its author claims, is based on extensive research in the former Soviet and East German archives, and there are numerous footnotes leading to the archival documents which are used to support what is written in the book text. These include, for example, some very specific statistics or quotes from diplomats and politicians.

But a quick check of the original Soviet documents (easily available now as PDF copies in libraries and/or held privately by researchers) demonstrated that many if not most of the footnotes to the archival documents are seriously wrong. The documents which are mentioned in footnotes either do not exist or do not have content related to what is said in the main text.

For the full information, one can now consult a table of such ‘text-citation disconnect’, available online. This is an interesting and instructive reading for any student of history. There are 34 cases mentioned in the table, and new cases keep appearing. The table was compiled by Balazs Szalontai, a historian of North Korea of Hungarian origin, now employed by the Korea University in Seoul

...

It is important that we are not talking about just three or four or even ten cases – everybody makes mistakes, after all, and perhaps only a handful of historians’ works are completely free from occasional blunders with sources or footnotes going AWOL.

In this case, however, the number of mistakes (or, rather, strange discrepancies) is truly staggering: it looks increasingly likely that most of the references to the Soviet archival sources (as well as a noticeable part of references to the East German archival sources) lead to nowhere

...

Unfortunately, this is only part of the story. There are more serious problems with ‘Tyranny of the Weak': the information which is absent from the archival sources cited by Armstrong is pretty much present in works of other scholars – above all, in Szalontai’s book published by the Stanford University Press in 2005.

This book, titled “Kim Il Sung in the Khrushchev era,” is based on a decade of the author’s work in the Hungarian archives, and this is the book which is not cited by Armstrong. He is clearly aware of the book, about which he’s made some slightly disparaging remarks in print.

In most cases of the ‘text-citation disconnect,’ the information which is so strangely absent from a cited archival document (or attributed to a non-existent document) in Armstrong’s book, still can be traced to some part of Szalontai’s work where it is usually based on some Hungarian archival source. It is important to emphasize that the data in question is very specific – we are talking about exact quotes from prominent political and diplomatic figures or pieces of statistical data.

Again, we are not talking about a small number of cases – though even a small-scale case of such ‘unacknowledged borrowings’ would and should ring academic alarm bells. Alas, cases of such ‘textual coincidences’ (to use another generous term) are counted in dozens

...

Nevertheless, there is something strange about this case: if it was a plagiarism indeed, it was totally unnecessary. Armstrong is an established scholar, employed by a world leading university. He has done good research in the past, and he is also a big name in the academic bureaucracy where he commands great respect.

And the book in question, being a general review of a broad subject, would lose little, if anything, had its author chosen to properly cite works by Szalontai and other scholars. After all, it is only normal to rely on what colleagues have done, especially when you write a general introduction to a subject.

Furthermore, it is difficult to expect that one can commit plagiarism on such scale and hope that it would remain unnoticed for a long time.

One can hold only hope against hope that we are dealing with a chain of highly improbable events – even though, frankly speaking, I cannot imagine which combination of unintentional actions and oversights would possibly produce such an outcome

...

Nobody will gain anything from what is happening now, but remaining silent would be worse. This is the case when the records should be set straight, no matter what the political and bureaucratic consequences are – not for our sake (we all will pay some price), but for the sake of future students of Korean studies.

#629
Edit: I tried to make the body a spolier, but it didn't work. How do I use the tag properly?
Couldn't find much in the databases I have access to, but I did find this piece Furr wrote about the LA riots:

WELCOME THE REBELLIONS
printed in Canadian Dimension Jul92, Vol. 26, Issue 5

World
A public workers' strike in Germany. May 1, International Workers' Day. Hundreds of cheering workers march along carrying banners. One of them reads: "Congratulations LA!"
Throughout the world millions of workers recognize the LA rebellions as something that is good for them, too. Like the German workers we, too--American students and working people--should welcome and support the rebellions in Los Angeles and other major US cities.
They were touched off by the acquittal of the four racist LA cops whose brutal beating of Rodney King could not be denied because millions have seen it. In a verdict worthy of South Africa or Nazi Germany, the jury found the cops were only "doing their job." Ironically, the jury was right the cops' job is to keep the most oppressed and exploited section of the black working class in their place by a constant reign of terror. The King verdict was just the last and most blatant outrage that released the floodgates of anger.
It is always inspiring when oppressed people rise up in fury. Rebellions such as this lift the cloak of propaganda and respectability that masks the naked horror of exploitation and murder, and let us see the rage and despair this oppression causes. It would have been terrible if faced with the King verdict, there had been no rebellions. Like the intifada of the Palestinian workers against Israeli fascism, the 15-year uprisings in the South African ghettos against apartheid, and the Soviet workers' recent strikes and demonstrations against the brutal attack on their standard of living by the Yeltsin regime, the rebels of Los Angeles, Atlanta, Sacramento, and other black working-class ghettos deserve our unqualified support.
If the Caterpillar workers, who recently had a sell-out contract rammed down their throats by the United Auto Workers, had instead used the militancy and willingness to break the law, they -- and we -- would be much better off. If college students are ever to roll back skyrocketing tuitions; if American workers are ever to begin to beat back the cuts in jobs, wages, and health benefits that have slashed our standard of living and are destroying our children's lives, we will have to show some of the militancy and defiance of the law that the black ghetto residents have shown.
Anti-cop, anti-government not anti-white
The media have abandoned any presence at "objectivity" and have done their best to portray the rebellions as anti-white rampages or as "senseless violence," and to help "quiet things down." These are the same media that sympathetically portray nationalist revolts in Eastern Europe and fascist Afghani guerrillas, but never fail to depict strikes in the US in an anti-worker light.
As usual in crises, the media have once again shown that they follow the government party line, almost as though they were government propaganda agents. In fact, just a year ago, during the Gulf War, the media were also feeding up US government propaganda. In times of crisis, the media show themselves for what they really are -- not independent seekers of the truth, but obedient servants to oppressive power. Another example: since April 24 there has been a sit-in at Brown University, led by a multi-racial student group, to demand more admission of black and low-income students. The media have ignored it totally.
The main aspect of the rebellions -- not "riots" -- has been fury at the cops, the visible repressive force in the cities, and at the politicians. It is a significant and hopeful sign that the revolt occurred in the US city that has had a black mayor for the longest time. For it was after the ghetto rebellions of the 1960s that the Democratic Party moved to put black politicians in charge of the major US cities to "keep them cool." Black workers are now seeing through that nationalist tactic.
What really terrifies the US ruling class is that white workers will take their cue from the ghetto rebels. If white workers and students were to cast aside racism and unite with black and Latin workers, the days of the Bush Administration, and in fact the whole system of exploitation, would be numbered.
Racism is the main ideology, the "false consciousness" that keeps US workers oppressed and exploited. It is the "divide and conquer" strategy, the main tactic of ruling classes since the Roman Empire. So the media push the elite's line, just as they did during the Gulf War a year ago, and portray the rebellion as anti-white, instead of anti-cop and anti-government.
Naturally, there have been some incidents of racism against whites, Koreans, and others. How could there not be? Since the 1670s racism has been deliberately created -- there was virtually none before that time -- in order to divide white and black workers so that both might be exploited freely by the elite.
What of the liberal experts? We should beware of those who claim to "understand the despair" of the "rioters" but focus on the relatively few, though deplorable, incidents of racism. Most of them would prefer no rebellions at all! What the rest of us need is better, more effective, more militant rebellions -- free of racism, directed against the seats of state power, the cops and the government. We are glad to see such rebellions in oppressive foreign lands; we should be even more ready to welcome them, and indeed to help them, in our own country.
Likewise, looting and arson show, not a "criminal" mentality, but a short-sighted one, attacking the exploiters near at hand rather than the system itself. But really democratic, popular uprisings, such as the American, French, Russian and Chinese revolutions, never occur without such disruptions. Those who claim to want a popular uprising pure of any destruction really do not want them at all. As Friedrich Engels said, they "want an ocean without the rush of its mighty waters."
The ghetto rebellions of the '60s forced many gains in US society. Without them, we at MSC would have no E.O.F. program, thanks to which thousands of black, Latin, and also white working class students have gone to college who never would have. But because they did not result in a popular, anti-racist, working class movement independent of both political parties and dedicated to fundamental political change, the rebellions of the 1960s, like the anti-war movement, dissipated, and their gains have been eroded.
From Moscow to Peru to Los Angeles, working people are fighting back against their oppression. We should support this, because it is our fight. We can start by fighting racism -- the ideology that, above all others, divides white and black workers and students from each other, and guarantees that our struggles will fail.
~~~~~~~~

By GROVER FURR
Glover Furr is a professor of English at Montclair College and a member of P(underbar)news, a computer network of concerned progressives.
BUSINESS WEEK ON THE LA RIOTS
Grover Furr's analysis of the LA riots is confirmed in an important commentary by Troy Segal in the May 18 issue of Business Week, an authoritative voice of US capital. Segal argues that those involved in the riots were drawn from diverse cultural and racial groups including blacks, whites, hispanics and Asians, and the businesses pillaged were owned by a similar spectrum of ethnic groups. His conclusions is that the riots were essentially class based and reflect an ominous economic and social polarization in US society.
#630
The sad thing is Armstrong is considered a"revisionist" which in South Korean elite discourse means apologist for North Korea. The two options possible are we should bomb them immediately or we should try to understand and subvert their system through liberal institutions. That we don't own North Korea or even that we might be the ones in the wrong is unacceptable. Of course this means Armstrong is getting sacrificed for lazy scholarship, the ones criticizing him are as bad or worse.

The next Grover Furr for Korea can't exist until South Korea has another revolution. The first one allowed honest scholarship at all. Personally I gave up
#631
on facebook, some food for thought:
If you're feeling overwhelmed by this impending fascist state ... some things to remember..
Rules for resistance:
Tuesday, on Facebook, Yale historian (and controversial author who has some problematic associations of his own) Timothy Snyder wrote: "Americans are no wiser than the Europeans who saw democracy yield to fascism, Nazism, or communism. Our one advantage is that we might learn from their experience. Now is a good time to do so.... Here are twenty lessons from the twentieth century, adapted to the circumstances of today.
1. Do not obey in advance. Much of the power of authoritarianism is freely given. In times like these, individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and then start to do it without being asked. You've already done this, haven't you? Stop. Anticipatory obedience teaches authorities what is possible and accelerates unfreedom.
2. Defend an institution. Follow the courts or the media, or a court or a newspaper. Do not speak of "our institutions" unless you are making them yours by acting on their behalf. Institutions don't protect themselves. They go down like dominoes unless each is defended from the beginning.
3. Recall professional ethics. When the leaders of state set a negative example, professional commitments to just practice become much more important. It is hard to break a rule-of-law state without lawyers, and it is hard to have show trials without judges.
4. When listening to politicians, distinguish certain words. Look out for the expansive use of "terrorism" and "extremism." Be alive to the fatal notions of "exception" and "emergency." Be angry about the treacherous use of patriotic vocabulary.
5. Be calm when the unthinkable arrives. When the terrorist attack comes, remember that all authoritarians at all times either await or plan such events in order to consolidate power. Think of the Reichstag fire. The sudden disaster that requires the end of the balance of power, the end of opposition parties, and so on, is the oldest trick in the Hitlerian book. Don't fall for it.
6. Be kind to our language. Avoid pronouncing the phrases everyone else does. Think up your own way of speaking, even if only to convey that thing you think everyone is saying. (Don't use the internet before bed. Charge your gadgets away from your bedroom, and read.) What to read? Perhaps "The Power of the Powerless" by Václav Havel, 1984 by George Orwell, The Captive Mind by Czesław Milosz, The Rebel by Albert Camus, The Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt, or Nothing is True and Everything is Possible by Peter Pomerantsev.
7. Stand out. Someone has to. It is easy, in words and deeds, to follow along. It can feel strange to do or say something different. But without that unease, there is no freedom. And the moment you set an example, the spell of the status quo is broken, and others will follow.
8. Believe in truth. To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power, because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle. The biggest wallet pays for the most blinding lights.
9. Investigate. Figure things out for yourself. Spend more time with long articles. Subsidize investigative journalism by subscribing to print media. Realize that some of what is on your screen is there to harm you. Bookmark PropOrNot or other sites that investigate foreign propaganda pushes.
10. Practice corporeal politics. Power wants your body softening in your chair and your emotions dissipating on the screen. Get outside. Put your body in unfamiliar places with unfamiliar people. Make new friends and march with them.
11. Make eye contact and small talk. This is not just polite. It is a way to stay in touch with your surroundings, break down unnecessary social barriers, and come to understand whom you should and should not trust. If we enter a culture of denunciation, you will want to know the psychological landscape of your daily life.
12. Take responsibility for the face of the world. Notice the swastikas and the other signs of hate. Do not look away and do not get used to them. Remove them yourself and set an example for others to do so.
13. Hinder the one-party state. The parties that took over states were once something else. They exploited a historical moment to make political life impossible for their rivals. Vote in local and state elections while you can.
14. Give regularly to good causes, if you can. Pick a charity and set up autopay. Then you will know that you have made a free choice that is supporting civil society helping others doing something good.
15. Establish a private life. Nastier rulers will use what they know about you to push you around. Scrub your computer of malware. Remember that email is skywriting. Consider using alternative forms of the internet, or simply using it less. Have personal exchanges in person. For the same reason, resolve any legal trouble. Authoritarianism works as a blackmail state, looking for the hook on which to hang you. Try not to have too many hooks.
16. Learn from others in other countries. Keep up your friendships abroad, or make new friends abroad. The present difficulties here are an element of a general trend. And no country is going to find a solution by itself. Make sure you and your family have passports.
17. Watch out for the paramilitaries. When the men with guns who have always claimed to be against the system start wearing uniforms and marching around with torches and pictures of a Leader, the end is nigh. When the pro-Leader paramilitary and the official police and military intermingle, the game is over.
18. Be reflective if you must be armed. If you carry a weapon in public service, God bless you and keep you. But know that evils of the past involved policemen and soldiers finding themselves, one day, doing irregular things. Be ready to say no. (If you do not know what this means, contact the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum and ask about training in professional ethics.)
19. Be as courageous as you can. If none of us is prepared to die for freedom, then all of us will die in unfreedom.
20. Be a patriot. The incoming president is not. Set a good example of what America means for the generations to come. They will need it."
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#632

palafox posted:

Tuesday, on Facebook, Yale historian (and controversial author who has some problematic associations of his own) Timothy Snyder wrote:

8. Believe in truth. To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power, because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle. The biggest wallet pays for the most blinding lights.



#633
Watch out for the paramilitaries out there, kid!
#634

Dear Mr Weaver:

Thank you for your supportive email!

I didn't know about a "fan club" or about rhizzone.

Last year at the Left Forum I met two young people who told me that they had a reading group, organized on the internet, on my book _Blood Lies_. Maybe this is it?

What's up next: Well, I just published the following book:

Yezhov Vs. Stalin: The Truth About Mass Repressions and the So-Called 'Great Terror' in the USSR

http://www.erythrospress.com/store/stalin-yezhov.html

I wrote it because there is simply nothing good on this important subject, and it comes up all the time.

I hope to publish volume 2 of my projected trilogy on Trotsky, _Trotsky's Conspiracies_, in or shortly after September of this year.

Right now I'm on the fourth draft of a book-length study of the "Katyn Massacre" fraud. It is fascinating to see how this story has been elaborated into a virtual industry.

Then, Trotsky volume 3 -- but now we're well into 2018.

* * * *

Now, please tell me a little about yourself, and about the discussion group or "fan club" you refer to.

Thanks once again for writing!

Sincerely,

Grover Furr

Dear Mr Weaver:

Sure, you can post my reply -- though it does not say very much, does it?

Thanks for contacting me and letting me know about all lthis!

Warm regards,

Grover Furr



I'm surprised that Grover Furr had yet to be told about this place. Well, now you need to conduct yourself accordingly, knowing that Mr. Furr could be reading any of your posts.

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#635
lmao,
#636
frontpage
#637
*tugs at collar*
#638
Should I finish transcribing Blood Lies then or move on to Furr's book about Ezhov or what
#639
we did it
#640
finish blood lies imo