Synergy posted:private enterprise has expanded enormously, with around 30 million private businesses recorded in 2008
This reminds me of when Sarkozy promised to create "one million new small or medium sized businesses." People apparently think the sheer volume of business registrations is a direct sign of economic health. It'd be like a computer company saying its new models will come with a thousand new files.
stegosaurus posted:Same with Jobs
In the 1990s Paul Krugman wrote dozens of articles trying to explain that the level of jobs in an economy is set by things like central bank policy and not like because some business owner decided to be generous and I think his total lack of impact on political debate broke his brain. I wonder what he thinks now that the candidate that entirely embodies his ideological pet peeve took power.
cars posted:dude he says right at the beginning of the paragraph you're selectively quoting that he's outlining the PRC government's position on itself
he didn't say he disagreed with it so i just assumed that was his position as well since people on this site tend to uncritically support any country that opposes western imperialism
cars posted:also don't quote wikipedia articles on communist countries at any time, they are usually wrong and if you check the edit history they are generally constructed by a coterie of trots, libertarians, far-rightists and also sketch liberals who may well be "NGO"/government employees or just plain dunces
this wasn't one of those "communists killed 10 billion people" statements, it's just looking at private businesses. other communist sites i checked out seemed to support that data to some degree so it's not like it's completely made up or whatever
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Synergy posted:cars posted:dude he says right at the beginning of the paragraph you're selectively quoting that he's outlining the PRC government's position on itself
he didn't say he disagreed with it so i just assumed that was his position as well since people on this site tend to uncritically support any country that opposes western imperialism
this isnt really true, you just perceive it to be true since your position on china is largely indistinguishable from your average democrat
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The_Boourns_Identity posted:what?
fwiw... i think you should go to church if you believe it's the right thing to do but if your goal going in is what you describe then that's probably not going to work out in a lot of ways.
Urbandale posted:this isnt really true, you just perceive it to be true since your position on china is largely indistinguishable from your average democrat
but it is true, just look at the thread where people were defending north korea's supposed restriction on travel but then Ufuk_Surekli came into the thread and explained that it was the exact opposite and that the rhizzone crew often fall into the trap of justifying anything just because it has the socialism stamp of approval on it
it's a legit blind spot and i'm glad there are people here to challenge it even if they're completely wrong sometimes (myself included).
Synergy posted:Urbandale posted:this isnt really true, you just perceive it to be true since your position on china is largely indistinguishable from your average democrat
but it is true, just look at the thread where people were defending north korea's supposed restriction on travel but then Ufuk_Surekli came into the thread and explained that it was the exact opposite and that the rhizzone crew often fall into the trap of justifying anything just because it has the socialism stamp of approval on it
it's a legit blind spot and i'm glad there are people here to challenge it even if they're completely wrong sometimes (myself included).
can you point out where this is being done regarding china, because this seems like reaching to me, are you disputing that your position re: china is bog standard liberal or are you kicking out of that arg entirely?
e: also, links fixed
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Urbandale posted:can you point out where this is being done regarding china, because this seems like reaching to me, are you disputing that your position re: china is bog standard liberal or are you kicking out of that arg entirely?
i just misinterpreted getfiscal's post as him agreeing with china's own view of itself, that's all
On January 27 2016 Operation Valle took place in Spain which declared the illegalization of the Marxist-Leninist Party (Communist Reconstruction) and saw the arrest of 8 members along with a Kurdish activist. They were accused of forming part of the PKK and imprisoned under terrorism charges. Some had, independently of official party affiliation, flown to Syria where they joined the YPG in Rojava during 6 months of fighting Daesh.
All but two were released shortly but the weak evidence used to prosecute them (possession of an insecticide can, sugar, firecrackers, batteries, and an airsoft gun) was upheld and they spent several months in prison until being allowed out on bail. During their time in prison they were singled out for their ideology; being publicly identified as communist, with one comrade (the current chairman of PML(RC)) being housed in a cell with known Daesh sympathizers.
A year has now passed since the illegalization of the PML(RC) with all local offices remaining closed. Seven of the court cases are still pending (the one acquitted being the individual who provided the only set of finger prints found on the firecrackers). While they are out on bail their safety remains at risk as the court published their names and addresses. This has been further complicated in the last days as the government of Turkey has requested the transfer of all information from the inquest. Daesh currently has a $150k bounty on the lives of both members who fought in Syria.
Outlook for the court case is not good. There is a very negative precedent for leftists that find themselves facing the justice system. For example, in 2012 a young man was arrested during general strike protests and later charged with possession of explosives. Despite there being no fingerprints and the police breaking the custody chain of the evidence he was sentenced to 4 years in prison in 2015.
Contrast this with another recent case of a self-professed neonazi who was arrested with 15 firearms, 500 shells, PETN and 20 meters of fuse. Having been sentenced to 4 years (reduced from 11) his sentence was just recently commuted to 10 months community work.
groundservices posted:Whoafor how long has Spain gone so easy on fascists?
Basically there was no purge of fascists during the "Transition" after Franco's death to a democratic constitutional monarchy (Excluding attempts by groups like ETA and GRAPO). Instead the state pursued an agressive policy of targeted assassinations and repression (with support of far-right paramilitaries) against leftists during that time. Reforms aside this is still the character of the Spanish state, although it does vary by region and branch.
tears posted:i realised that over the past year i turned my study group from a bunch of keeno young guns ready to bring revolution to the british working class into a bunch of depressed man hating third worldists, not particularly displeased with this
a correct strategy cannot emerge without proper marxist analysis of the prevailing material conditions. a lack of despair indicates a fundamental ignorance or misunderstanding of these conditions. conclusion: despair is the foundation of effective action 
glomper_stomper posted:i've found that donnie's dsa thesis is correct insofar as national leadership has absolutely no involvement in the branches, which is exactly how their campus wings function. no contact exists between the campus organizations and national headquarters or even local chapters, so organizers can pretty much do what they want. in this case, it means that the yds becomes a potential site for expounding marxism-leninism to the intermediate.
until it gets totally fucking co-opted or infiltrated by spies basically
i'm hearing rumors of a left cadre within the dsa which i intend to infiltrate and then join the cadre of that cadre. hopefully cadres all the way up to the top
shriekingviolet posted:a correct strategy cannot emerge without proper marxist analysis of the prevailing material conditions. a lack of despair indicates a fundamental ignorance or misunderstanding of these conditions. conclusion: despair is the foundation of effective action
What if there is no possible strategy for implementing a socialist revolution in America that could conceivably succeed? Just a thought.
janefondafanclub posted:what orgs are there out there for leftist police to join openly?
but if you're serious about what sort of orgs a police person should join, I'd recomend Dignitas
janefondafanclub posted:glomper_stomper posted:i've found that donnie's dsa thesis is correct insofar as national leadership has absolutely no involvement in the branches, which is exactly how their campus wings function. no contact exists between the campus organizations and national headquarters or even local chapters, so organizers can pretty much do what they want. in this case, it means that the yds becomes a potential site for expounding marxism-leninism to the intermediate.
until it gets totally fucking co-opted or infiltrated by spies basicallyi'm hearing rumors of a left cadre within the dsa which i intend to infiltrate and then join the cadre of that cadre. hopefully cadres all the way up to the top
does it count as entryism if its the US
