#1
Here's some facts for you:

- The social-democratic NDP released a platform with no money allocated for antipoverty initiatives, no money for child care, no money for housing, no money for major public transit infrastructure and so on. This platform is aimed at getting richer white people to vote for them.

- The NDP national president said that the current Greek PASOK government was a good example of a social-democratic led government getting results for people.

- The Greens released a platform that called for sharp cuts in government spending to achieve a balanced budget more rapidly than the government's long-term fiscal plan. This, and some environmental tax shifting, is the entirety of the Green platform.

- The Conservatives are calling the incumbent government tax-crazy because of several minor tax reforms that were combined with tax cuts. Their solution: More tax cuts. And spending cuts. And hair cuts.

- The NDP considers its platform "green" and one of the largest spending items is for a gasoline tax cut. There is also a heating fuel tax cut. Basically, if it burns, it earns.

- As far as I know, all the leaders of all the political parties are white. One is female.

- Some useless reformist careerist Trots set up a Socialist Party of Ontario which has no chance of going anywhere and so far only has one candidate nominated in a peripheral riding. Most other Trots support the NDP because of their lack of any sort of leftist agenda.

- The Communist Party is running like seven candidates or something (out of 107 or so seats). They are running their perennial candidate in my riding. He will get like 100 votes and claim victory. Basically reformists.

- The party that likes Juche might run a few candidates. They basically call for a party dictatorship in Canada but they hide it under a lot of rhetoric about being democratic. They are loony tunes but I respect that. Electoralist cretins.

- Boycotts: The Maoists and the anarchists are going to protest and boycott the elections. But that makes up a few dozen people in Ontario so no one will really care unless they blow up something important like the CN Tower. I'm not saying they are going to blow up the CN Tower. But they are almost certainly going to blow up the CN Tower.

- I love elections a lot because it is like a sport where everyone eventually loses terribly.
#2
Dunno much about Canada except that they made a cool tv show a few years ago about drug dealers and law enforcement except they cancelled it.

So my question is which party supports the arts, specifically tv crime show arts and when will they make law and order canada also if anyone from one of these parties is reading this uncancel the show im thinking of

#3
irrelevant politics in an irrelevant nation
#4

Vivian posted:
Dunno much about Canada except that they made a cool tv show a few years ago about drug dealers and law enforcement except they cancelled it.

So my question is which party supports the arts, specifically tv crime show arts and when will they make law and order canada also if anyone from one of these parties is reading this uncancel the show im thinking of

There is a party called the Drug Dealers and Law Enforcement Television Show Movement which is trying to stir up some debate about that show and also the possibility of Law and Order Canada. Unfortunately (for you) the Movement is fiercely opposed to (re)creating either show based on the idea that tv crime show arts money is better spent on necessities like cell phones and cell phone towers.

#5
The Liberal policy prep phone call for campaigns was taped and leaked.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/09/04/toronto-ont-liberal-platform-leak.html

Apparently there's nothing big in the platform, total cost is $1.5 billion by year 4 and a lot of it is just extending existing programs. So poor people are told to go fuck themselves by every major party which is good times.
#6
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#7
Hudak... was a bad choice.

#8
i was predicting hudak minority but... damn... if he's attacking immigrants, that means he's already given up on toronto, which means he has given up on a majority, which means he thinks he'll probably lose the election due to coalition, which means good things.
#9
follow-up a week later: yup, currently polling is suggesting that Hudak has dropped a lot in polling. the liberals and conservatives are both poised to win 44 out of 107 seats (and the ndp 19). in that situation mcguinty would remain premier. so like one week of campaigning and hudak has already lost unless something changes lol
#10
canada's left-wing pseudo-economics think tank actually released a report today saying that the conservative platform used somewhat misleading graphs. that was the entire report, just a slam of the fact that conservatives stretch the truth a bit. i hate people so much.
#11
ndp candidates have been doing shit like autodialing people with messages that are basically like "we're all sad that jack layton died, by the way vote ndp" which is so creepy that the leader (Horwath) had to be like fuuuuck sorry about that, please stop campaigning using a dead body.
#12
i just got autodialed by the conservatives in my parents riding. they wanted questions for a townhall with hudak!

possible question: dear tim, you support chain gangs, are you legally a mongoloid?
#13
also hudak dropped the foreign workers bit because IT DESTROYED HIS CAMPAIGN so maybe he'll claw back a bit by cooing gently about tax cuts for the next three weeks.
#14
Settler-state elections own. I'm doing mormon research now and in the early days of statehood the church would go door to door and tell people to vote either republican or democrat to produce believable vote distributions. They stopped doing that a while ago.
#15

stegosaurus posted:
Settler-state elections own. I'm doing mormon research now and in the early days of statehood the church would go door to door and tell people to vote either republican or democrat to produce believable vote distributions. They stopped doing that a while ago.



ahahaha thats so ownage...

#16
as a resident of this settler-state i am mildly bemused by the election, only because everyone is really bad at campaigning except for McGuinty so he will be re-elected and the other people will crawl back into their weird little holes and wondering how this could have happened with their top-notch AAA platforms and campaigns, and nothing will change again, as always

basically though

FyadorPostoevsky posted:
irrelevant politics in an irrelevant nation


#17
ahahahaha mcguinty owns look at the latest projection



this is where it was a few months ago



hudak you idiot
#18
The teacher's unions are putting a lot of money into a campaign called "Vote Against Kids" which is supposed to be like cool ironic pro-kid campaign lampooning sigh whocares

#19
what i'm amazed with is the union is basically saying "things are fine" which is basically a red light that things could be gutted for lots of cash if you ask me. a union that is content is like a banker that says "yeah, i've got enough"
#20
Keep on Rockin’ (and Votin’) In the Free World
September 12, 2011 by Election Blog 2011

By Rob Gilmour

Twenty thousand Pearl Jam fans watched in astonished awe as the musical third rail of rock and roll was briefly grasped without reprecussions at Toronto’s Air Canada Centre last night.

In one of the most electric moments in Toronto music history, and deep into the night of the 10th anniversary of September 11th, hope reigned supreme when Neil Young unexpectedly joined Pearl Jam on stage to jam out a charged and chill-delivering rendition of Keep On Rockin’ in the Free World.

From his world-renowned rock and roll anthem for freedom, Neil Young solemnly tells us that: “There’s colours on the street, red, white and blue, people shufflin’ their feet, people sleepin’ in their shoes.”

There’s also an election in Ontario (and at least five other provinces, too) and you might be shufflin’ your feet and you might be so tired of voting that you feel like you could sleep in your shoes… after all, you’ve had to pick a new municipal and federal government in the last year.

Yes, you might be tired. Yes, you might have voter fatigue. But if you are reading this you can probably also take off your shoes and sleep in your own bed under your own roof. If you can do that then you can also find the fuel to vote in our free and democratic system.

Like one of Canada’s most famous musical ambassadors decrees, Neil Young sings that you: “Got fuel to burn, got roads to drive.”

Yes, you might be tired of voting. But you should vote. You can vote. Burn your fuel and drive on your roads and vote, vote, vote.

If you were one of the lucky few to witness the brief merging of musical icons last night, you heard Eddie Vetter and Neil Young proclaimed to 20,000 incredulous fans:

“Got a man of the people, says keep hope alive.”

Voting is a privilege. Voting is also our right in Canada.

No matter whom you support, no matter how you vote… keep hope alive and vote on October 6th.

Vote… and please, please Keep on Rockin’ In the Free World.
#21
ooh ooh jackie blue
lives her life from inside of a room
hides her smile when she's wearing a frown
ooh jackie you're not so down

you like your life in a free form style
you'll take an inch but you'd love a mile
there never seems to be quite enough
floating around to fill your loving cup

ooh ooh jackie blue
what's a game girl if you never lose
ask a winner and you'll probably find
ooh jackie they've lost at some time

don't try to tell me that you're not aware
of what you're doing and that you don't care
you say it's easy just a natural thing
like playing music but you never sing

ooh ooh jackie blue
making wishes that never come true
going places where you've never been
ooh jackie you're going again

ooh ooh jackie blue
lives a dream that can never come true
making love is like sifting through sand
ooh jackie it slips through your hand

every day in your indigo eyes
i watch the sunset but i don't see it rise
moonlight and stars in your strawberry wine
you'd take the world but you won't take the time

ooh ooh jackie blue
lives her life from inside of a room
makes you think that her life is a drag
ooh jackie what fun you have had

ooh jackie
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#23
yessshh i fuckin LOVE bourgeois democracy and the free world and pearl jam and capitalism sputter sputter
#24
what the fuck is that article about pearl jam lol
#25
keep on rockin in the FYAD world
#26


NDP now polling at 26% - same as where they were in the federal election.

The problem is that it isn't a very efficient vote, there aren't a lot of marginal seats they pick up from each additional percentage. So they get about 20 seats but the Liberals get 50 despite only having 6% more of the vote.
#27
7% more doh
#28
i voted ndp because fuck this gay earth
#29
some obese weirdo who is running for the ndp said a bunch of dumb stuff on his blog and the ndp refuses to dump him even though it doesn't matter because they'll never win the riding. it's like if i were ever a candidate.
#30


seriously who saw this guy and thought "yes, i want him representing me, my province and my party."
#31
lol he was my english teacher in grade 11, he made us read Anthem
#32

macchupicchu posted:
lol he was my english teacher in grade 11, he made us read Anthem

that rules.