#41
clear-eyed nalysis from the international marxist tendency imo

http://www.marxist.com/venezuela-last-warning.htm

Venezuela - a last warning
Written by Jorge Martín Thursday, 19 May 2016

The assault against the Bolivarian revolution has intensified in the recent days and weeks. Editorials and front pages in US and Spanish newspapers are screaming about hunger in Venezuela and demanding the removal of the “dictatorial regime”. Ongoing scarcity problems have led to instances of looting. The right-wing opposition is attempting to trigger a presidential recall referendum, but is also threatening violent action and appealing to foreign powers, including in some case for military intervention. What is really happening in Venezuela and how can these threats be faced?
#42
If there is also a Brazil discussion going on somewhere, I would appreciate a link, because this shit is getting intense.
#43
http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/topic/13322/

Iirc the latest one
#44
It might be a little late in the day for a question like this, considering how crazy things are getting in Venezuela and Latin America in general, but do we know why exactly Chavez's reforms didn't reduce violent crime despite greatly reducing poverty? That was always one of the bigger cudgels used on me when I'd try to defend Venezuela on reddit.
#45
Because of the reggaeton music
#46
c'mooon
#47

icecrystal posted:

It might be a little late in the day for a question like this, considering how crazy things are getting in Venezuela and Latin America in general, but do we know why exactly Chavez's reforms didn't reduce violent crime despite greatly reducing poverty? That was always one of the bigger cudgels used on me when I'd try to defend Venezuela on reddit.


this http://www.telesurtv.net/english/analysis/The-Infiltration-of-Colombian-Paramilitaries-into-Venezuela-20150824-0005.html
but also this http://www.caracaschronicles.com/2014/01/30/could-it-be-that-the-murder-rate-has-really-been-falling/

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#50

insta_gramsci posted:

could y'all post some links from the business press and so on? i've wondered for a while why and how the price of oil has been so cheap, and i had the usual suspicions, but i don't have an eye on it as much as i should



In September, despite a global oil glut developing largely because of China’s slowdown and the rapid increase in U.S. production, the Saudis boosted production half a percent, to 9.6 million barrels a day, lifting OPEC’s combined production to an 11-month high of almost 31 million barrels a day. Then, on Oct. 1, Saudi Arabia lowered prices by increasing the discount it offered its major Asian customers. The kingdom might just as easily have cut production to defend higher prices. Instead, the Saudis sent a strong signal that they were determined to protect their market share, especially in India and China, against Russian, Latin American, and African rivals. Iraq and Iran followed Saudi Arabia’s example.

...

The kingdom has sterling credit and about $735 billion in financial reserves, so it’s better positioned to withstand a prolonged downturn than its rivals, says Bruce Jones, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington. A price war could do serious damage to nations already on the ropes. Iran, whose exports are still constrained by Western sanctions, needs $153.40 a barrel to break even, according to the IMF. “Knowing that Iran is going to struggle, that’s something Saudi Arabia would certainly enjoy,” says Reva Bhalla, vice president for global analysis at Stratfor, which advises companies on political risk. Russia counts on $100 a barrel: Its budget loses about $2 billion for every dollar drop below that price, says Maxim Oreshkin, head of strategic planning at Russia’s Finance Ministry.

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The Saudi policy of waging a price war has already hurt weaker members of OPEC. Venezuela has called for an emergency OPEC meeting to organize price hikes. The Venezuelans’ request was ignored by Saudi Arabia and Gulf ally Kuwait



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-23/oil-saudi-arabias-risky-price-play

"the saudis" is synecdoche of course

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#51

icecrystal posted:

It might be a little late in the day for a question like this, considering how crazy things are getting in Venezuela and Latin America in general, but do we know why exactly Chavez's reforms didn't reduce violent crime despite greatly reducing poverty? That was always one of the bigger cudgels used on me when I'd try to defend Venezuela on reddit.


If I wanted to ship cocaine out of South America, Venezuela is probably the first place I would go to set up shop. I'm not the first person to have had that thought.

The murders are probably tied to narco trafficking, and that's not going to be affected by anything the local governments do.

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#52
the elite attitude towards crime in american media is mostly dependent on how it benefits them anyway. i remember reading so many articles praising the government in brazil for basically going death squad on crime. the second that the left started making inroads it flipped back to "crime in brazil is insane". colombia is similar and was linked to the campaigns to destroy FARC, even on the left it became common for people to say that FARC was a nutty crime operation instead of holding leftist beliefs. the media again was saturated with stories about the need to confront crime in colombia. anyway it led to huge american operations in colombia. no one cares that colombia murders leftists like a contest though. obviously within the USA that basic story is true, too, like the clinton crime bill and such, anti-crack laws, etc.
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#54

getfiscal posted:

the elite attitude towards crime in american media is mostly dependent on how it benefits them anyway. i remember reading so many articles praising the government in brazil for basically going death squad on crime. the second that the left started making inroads it flipped back to "crime in brazil is insane". colombia is similar and was linked to the campaigns to destroy FARC, even on the left it became common for people to say that FARC was a nutty crime operation instead of holding leftist beliefs. the media again was saturated with stories about the need to confront crime in colombia. anyway it led to huge american operations in colombia. no one cares that colombia murders leftists like a contest though. obviously within the USA that basic story is true, too, like the clinton crime bill and such, anti-crack laws, etc.


let's not forget who makes the death squads in the first place. like, on the rare occasion anyone mentions the school of the americas it's treated like ancient history, even though people generally refer to stuff that was happening in the 1980s or whatever, when anyone in the US was paying attention. nevermind that it's still going. is all the lead in the water over there affecting the yank attention span or something?? http://www.mintpressnews.com/the-school-of-the-americas-is-still-exporting-death-squads/204655/

#55
actually, lead has no effect on orgasms except for Superman.
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#57
i felt just as free as you when i heard the news
#58
Looks like we got a single paragraph winner for Anticommunist Bingo

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11774482/venezuela-socialist-collapse posted:

But steeped in the kind of Marxist phraseology that was already out of date a generation ago, the clique around President Maduro seems genuinely convinced that all of the country’s problems are the result of a sprawling CIA conspiracy — "economic warfare," as official propaganda puts it. It’s insane, but within the tightly sealed circle of Marxist true believers around the president, this kind of lunacy never faces any serious pushback.


Marxist...out of date...clique...CIA conspiracy...propaganda...insane...lunacy... Very nice.

#59
scare quotes on economic warfare is amazing
#60
*hides under stage and puts iphone halfway into mouth*within this tightly knit circle of true believers *huge roar of crowd in the background* maduro is shielded from reality. this is VICE news, reporting for VICE news United Kingdom.
#61

postposting posted:

The Saudi policy of waging a price war has already hurt weaker members of OPEC. Venezuela has called for an emergency OPEC meeting to organize price hikes. The Venezuelans’ request was ignored by Saudi Arabia and Gulf ally Kuwait



Italian ally Japan bombed Pearl Harbor today as Palazzo Venezia's belligerent policy claimed thousands of American lives. As Hawaiians reel at Mussolini's world-spanning influence, the rest of us are left to ask: what was Il Duce thinking?

#62
The author is some guy in quebec who is enjoying publication on a helluva lot of sites atm despite an... interesting record

From “Francisco Toro”
Date Mon, 13 Jan 2003 5:57 PM
To “Patrick J. Lyons”
Subject
—————————————————————————
Dear Pat,

After much careful consideration, I’ve decided I can’t continue reporting for the New York Times. As I examine the problem, I realize it would take much more than just pulling down my blog to address your conflict of interests concerns. Too much of my lifestyle is bound up with opposition activism at the moment, from participating in several NGOs, to organizing events and attending protest marches. But even if I gave all of that up, I don’t think I could muster the level of emotional detachment from the story that the New York Times demands. For better or for worse, my country’s democracy is in peril now, and I can’t possibly be neutral about that.

I appreciate your understanding throughout this difficult time, and I hope in the future, conditions will allow for me to contribute with the World Business page again.

Sincerely,

Francisco Toro


https://ca.linkedin.com/in/francisco-toro-b5147217

#63

getfiscal posted:





#64
I thought we were pro-Sissy, anti-bruthahood around here, something change?
#65

Bablu posted:



the economist intelligence unit (EIU) is real and it,s contents prove this forum right

#66

swirlsofhistory posted:

I thought we were pro-Sissy, anti-bruthahood around here, something change?



you're still posting so no.

#67
Actually most of us here support a small Coptic farmer's party as the vanguard of the revolution.
#68

swirlsofhistory posted:

I thought we were pro-Sissy, anti-bruthahood around here, something change?

you're probably thinking of that "landdestroyer" blog guy who also supports reactionaries in thailand for strange reasons.

#69
on the next level you realize that even Iraqis who didn't like saddam hate america. this is known as "delta wave woke"
#70
https://www.google.com/search?q=venezuela+%22needs%20a%20pinochet%22
#71

glomper_stomper posted:

i don't know the exact nature of chavez's social reforms but, as jorge mentioned, the bolivarian government has tried to court capitalists into cooperating for a while now. many of the state-owned enterprises are being run by corrupt bureaucrats and oppositionists, manufactured products are landing in the black market at the behest of private capital, and the productive forces are at a stand still due to the internal crippling of industry through sabotage and the external depression of the oil market.

the subsequent inability of the state machinery to organize production and control the circulation of capital generates a mode of total fucking anarchy where destitute laborers will find it infinitely more lucrative to smuggle, peddle, and traffic for criminal cartels and private capitalists than work for precarious state-owned enterprises.


That's why I don't believe they're serious about building Socialism right now. TBH, the only way I can see them start to seriously build it is if the pressure becomes so great that they'll have to pull a "Castro" and expropriate the base of the existing Capitalist class to save themselves.

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#73
*stands up* the 'zzone must be that rearguard
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#75
OPEC are meeting on the 2nd June, KSA & allies not likely to cut production, oil has risen to $50/barrel, as a result of e.g. Fort McMurray canadian wildfire, US reduction in production due to high costs, repeated nigerian pipeline bombings by the Niger Delta Avengers, and so on, plus the endlessly growing desire for the black blood of ancient sunlight

KSA may even increase production to double down pressure on Iran, Venezuela, Russia etc, worth keeping an eye on
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tears posted:

bombings by the Niger Delta Avengers, and so on, plus the endlessly growing desire for the black blood of ancient sunlight



The reza nagarestani of the left

#77

EmanuelaBrolandi posted:

tears posted:
bombings by the Niger Delta Avengers, and so on, plus the endlessly growing desire for the black blood of ancient sunlight


The reza nagarestani of the left



trigger warning that shit

#78
OPEC meeting update: blasphemous incense distilled from the corpses of the old gods will continue to fill the skies
#79
i used chat roulette to talk to some Venezuelans & all of them agreed "Maduro, si!"

hope this helps
#80
wrap it up golpistailures