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http://web.archive.org/web/20070514025143/http://irtr.info/forums/post-15391.html
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IRTR discusses TV:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070825021114/http://irtr.org/forums/ntopic1867.html
#3
once again. Not Actually Wrong Just Absurd
#4
I miss IRTR. They were shutting down as I was getting into communism. The discussions there had an appearance of rigor that you didn't find on other boards or web sites of organizations. It's a shame there wasn't more of the forum archived because there was some good stuff, the classes on Capital for example.
#5
I was too young for the accelerationist or MTW thing but my first impression
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HenryKrinkle posted:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070514025143/http://irtr.info/forums/post-15391.html


Seems like an unnecessarily complicated solution. If yanks aren't to be used as forced labor (which introduces its own complications), might I suggest simply killing all of them. Just, my 2 cents.

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There is no point in making apriori plans about hypothetical situations with only vaguely defined actors (The Third World isn't a unitary entity with a concretely existing state; that is in fact part of its predicament) , which if implemented, would require extreme cruelty to bring to conclusion. Necessity does a fair enough job on its own in doing violence to our sense of justice and pity without us elevating barbarism into a principle.

Terror has it's rational justification as a way of clearing away the barriers that arrest the more mundane processes of mass (re)education that occur everyday through participation in the mundane processes of the law, culture (in the broad sense), administration, labor, and commerce. In fact, Terror presumes the effectiveness of these latter processes of socialization and control, because those who enforce it have to be themselves bound by ties non-reducible to fear of violent death in order to work effectively for the waging of their social war against enemies internal and external. And in so far as they think and act like politicians with worldly ends and not nihilists on the quest for the millennium, they are on the look out to find a way of preserving the new order by means of new laws, new rituals, new institutions,etc, if only to save themselves from being the next ones on the tumbrels. How, and to what extant, the social machinery the would be revolutionaries are reconstructing can live and thrive under the under daily contradictions of social life is the question they are judged by and which they themselves are always groping towards even during the height of periods of purges. Historic justice, as the linked post calls it, of course can be seen in such outbursts of revenge, but that is just a predictable, though fearfully sublime, side product, not an end in of itself.

Besides: The continued immiseration of the poor and the laboring classes in the first world, the peaceful infiltration of global institutions by the Global South, ecological crisis, changing demographic patterns, the self-cannibalization of liberal-Enlightenment ideology within its historical homeland, the spontaneous effects of whatever great and cataclysmic wars there are to come- all these things, taken together, may make such plans of dispersal like this absurdly redundant anyway.

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The wars of position waged for decades by countries like China, Cuba, Iran, etc. are far more effective, instructive, and salutary to the imagination than fantasies of a reverse Middle Passage.
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I completely agree and that's a very eloquent way of putting it. Everyone here has a history with this type of politcs and we are more making fun of our old positions or saying "man weren't things crazy back then" tham we are seriously entertaining any of these ideas.
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#15
does the xtranormal of this still exist?
#16
I agree wit da op
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c_man posted:

does the xtranormal of this still exist?

my youtube account got nuked a while ago for copyright and i didn't have a backup. luckily the wayback machine had the first couple minutes of it. so i re-uploaded it:

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stegosaurus posted:

I completely agree and that's a very eloquent way of putting it. Everyone here has a history with this type of politcs and we are more making fun of our old positions or saying "man weren't things crazy back then" tham we are seriously entertaining any of these ideas.



Story checks out. Carry on.

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i agree with the OP
#20
reading that now I wonder how funny it must have been for white shirt black tie NSA types to refer to their erstwhile comrades as persyns and komrades. I bet they were chuckling right into their black coffee every time they typed American $nakes
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stegosaurus posted:

I completely agree and that's a very eloquent way of putting it. Everyone here has a history with this type of politcs and we are more making fun of our old positions or saying "man weren't things crazy back then" tham we are seriously entertaining any of these ideas.

I thought it was always ironic

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notciaNOTjew posted:

stegosaurus posted:

I completely agree and that's a very eloquent way of putting it. Everyone here has a history with this type of politcs and we are more making fun of our old positions or saying "man weren't things crazy back then" tham we are seriously entertaining any of these ideas.

I thought it was always ironic



it was always ironic until we realized it was the only correct application of Marxist-Leninist science to the modern world. now we ironically pretend we're no longer maoist-third worldist

#23
i for one look forward to the cameraderie we zzoners will share when bhpn is the kapo of our block of jdpon cracker deathcamp #69-420
#24
I'm still pretty sure mtw is objectively correct revolutionary science but it's no way for me to live my life. Sorry everyone.
#25
whats the best way to stack paper and live a baller lifestyle but still be a champion of the leading light of marxism-leninism-maoism-lin biaoism
#26
also fyi donations are now greatly needed for llco comrades in the bangla zone

http://llco.org/big-fundraising-push-please-help/
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dank_xiaopeng posted:

whats the best way to stack paper and live a baller lifestyle but still be a champion of the leading light of marxism-leninism-maoism-lin biaoism


Anyone? ANYONE?

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dank_xiaopeng posted:

whats the best way to stack paper and live a baller lifestyle but still be a champion of the leading light of marxism-leninism-maoism-lin biaoism

sell cocaine, divert profits to your cause (just like ronald reagan)

#29

dank_xiaopeng posted:

also FBI donations are now greatly needed for llco comrades in the bangla zone

http://llco.org/big-fundraising-push-please-help/



fixed

#30

gyrofry posted:

dank_xiaopeng posted:

whats the best way to stack paper and live a baller lifestyle but still be a champion of the leading light of marxism-leninism-maoism-lin biaoism

sell cocaine, divert profits to your cause (just like ronald reagan)



farc tried it and imho hiding in mud huts in the jungle and havin a ball with ameboic dysentery doesnt have the flash and style im looking for

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dank_xiaopeng posted:

gyrofry posted:

dank_xiaopeng posted:

whats the best way to stack paper and live a baller lifestyle but still be a champion of the leading light of marxism-leninism-maoism-lin biaoism

sell cocaine, divert profits to your cause (just like ronald reagan)

hiding in mud huts in the jungle and havin a ball with ameboic dysentery



but enough about my time in the "peace" kkkorpse,

#32
sounds like diapers are the answer yet again
#33

tpaine posted:



unironically what i wanna do with my own students

#34

dank_xiaopeng posted:

also fyi donations are now greatly needed for llco comrades in the bangla zone

http://llco.org/big-fundraising-push-please-help/



http://llco.org/big-fundraising-push-please-help/

LLCO posted:

Those who have eyes, see. Those who have ears, listen. Those who have brains, think.



A Communist group is lifting Jesus quotes to ask for funding in Bangladesh...The Hindi-Judeo-Christian Marxist-Leninist front is a new one to me

#35

RedMaistre posted:

stegosaurus posted:

I completely agree and that's a very eloquent way of putting it. Everyone here has a history with this type of politcs and we are more making fun of our old positions or saying "man weren't things crazy back then" tham we are seriously entertaining any of these ideas.

Story checks out. Carry on.



We are now committed Marxist-Leninists of hte Old Type.