roseweird posted:serious question: why are you asking me to explain the decision-making process of women joining the military
what should i have asked goatstein instead lol
unlike for men, there is literally no social compunction or socially constructed gender roles that force women to seek the kind of respect and vaunted warrior status that military service brings. Especially not coming from the right wing which typically serves as the main source of military lionization, they would rather have women barefoot and pregnant (but safe) in the kitchen, or, at most, serving in steno pools, far away from the rapacious eyes of male Troops. In fact, this entire modern feminine desire for masculine respect, "warrior status", incorporation into previously male-dominated institutions, etc. seems much more likely to be coming from......from..........oh....oh my god....it cant, it cant be....
roseweird posted:ugh so this is why you got that av, huh
actually it was for simultaneously probating the entire forum. Free Mustang
ilmdge posted:althoug hyou were already in ifap for something when you did that
ilmdge posted:post the archie 9 11 comic
i should probably add a vilerat gravemarker or something into that last panel now
lmao at some of the examples of troop fellating in this article
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Freejay 4 days ago
America did just fine without a huge standing military for about 150 years. America's military was repeatedly underestimated by our enemies because they could not believe that a free citizenry could be rapidly mobilized without a massive military infrastructure. History proved them wrong.
I served in the military and one thing was crystal clear: I served to keep international commerce flowing and served a globalized financial system. I did not serve my country, I did not serve America's interests, its taxpayers, its citizens, its constitution, or its freedoms in any way.
Anyone who thinks the US military is used to protect the interests or freedoms of the US citizens is an absolute idiot.
What it true is that every liberal yuppie who acts so superior and claims to believe in peace, lives in a bubble created by the military because without the military you would have no access to cheap, plastic electronics, no easy credit cards, no ability to ship our paper overseas and get cars and tvs in return without having to have the factories and the pollution here in our backyard.
Anyone who makes a show of being a liberal and is not willing to give up their starbucks lattes, their iphones, their entire modern, technological lifestyle is not only an idiot but a parasite as well.
The military does not protect your freedoms, it protects your ability to buy cheap plastic electronics from overseas. The military makes our descent into laziness and modern yuppie values possible.
all these people combating liberalism and mustang is nowhere to be found
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:"they protect our freedoms" is how you can tell you're dealing with the baseline level of stupidity indicating a complete lost cause. like, the person who jumps into apologetics about college money or poverty or w/e still recognizes that what troops are doing is evil, they just argue extenuating circumstances. the people who seriously believe that ground troops actually do anything for our freedom might as well be those crowds of people weeping over kim jong il's ascension to heaven for as much as you're ever going to reach them with reality
well yeah
but i mean this shit is just something that happens:
During the 2013 World Series, Bank of America, that beacon of patriotism and benevolence, sponsored an initiative called “Express Your Thanks.” For each photo, message or video submitted that expressed thanks to the military, the bank donated $1 to nonprofits that support service members, veterans and their families.
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Bank of America provided American flags to each attendee of Game 1 at Fenway Park, and “asked those in attendance to wave the flag during “God Bless America” (before the bottom of the seventh inning) as an expression of thanks to U.S. troops.”
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The NFL, with a culture that mirrors that of the military in many ways, is always more than willing to provide a massive platform for hyper-nationalistic promotion of the armed forces. Indeed, the league proudly states that “supporting the military is part of the fabric of the NFL.” This year, for Veterans Day, that “support” came in the form of an initiative called “Salute to Service,” which is all about “military appreciation.” Players donned camouflage gear and helmet decals honoring the armed forces. Colts quarterback Andrew Luck ran out of the tunnel during player introductions side by side with a service member, with the latter waving an American flag.
and 98% of the population doesnt even bat an eye at it. also lol bank of america jumping in on that good ol jingoism to earn some good will with $1 donations
Superabound posted:Freejay 4 days ago
America did just fine without a huge standing military for about 150 years. America's military was repeatedly underestimated by our enemies because they could not believe that a free citizenry could be rapidly mobilized without a massive military infrastructure. History proved them wrong.
I served in the military and one thing was crystal clear: I served to keep international commerce flowing and served a globalized financial system. I did not serve my country, I did not serve America's interests, its taxpayers, its citizens, its constitution, or its freedoms in any way.
Anyone who thinks the US military is used to protect the interests or freedoms of the US citizens is an absolute idiot.
What it true is that every liberal yuppie who acts so superior and claims to believe in peace, lives in a bubble created by the military because without the military you would have no access to cheap, plastic electronics, no easy credit cards, no ability to ship our paper overseas and get cars and tvs in return without having to have the factories and the pollution here in our backyard.
Anyone who makes a show of being a liberal and is not willing to give up their starbucks lattes, their iphones, their entire modern, technological lifestyle is not only an idiot but a parasite as well.
The military does not protect your freedoms, it protects your ability to buy cheap plastic electronics from overseas. The military makes our descent into laziness and modern yuppie values possible.all these people combating liberalism and mustang is nowhere to be found
someone buy this guy an account
gyrofry posted:it is entirely rational for labor aristocrats to support the imperialist military, the enforcers and guarantors of their otherwise unsustainable standard of living
yep. even the liabilities associated with defense industry rent-seeking and foreign adventures arguably detrimental to US interests (e.g. Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.) don't come close to counter-balancing the benefits the US military provides in enforcing the domination of US capital.
HenryKrinkle posted:gyrofry posted:
it is entirely rational for labor aristocrats to support the imperialist military, the enforcers and guarantors of their otherwise unsustainable standard of living
yep. even the liabilities associated with defense industry rent-seeking and foreign adventures arguably detrimental to US interests (e.g. Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.) don't come close to counter-balancing the benefits the US military provides in enforcing the domination of US capital.
Even the Pentagon has said that the unwavering support for Israel is detrimental to foreign policy.
"We made the desert bloom! We're and entrepreneurial nation! Without us you wouldn't have computer processors, Nobel prizes, AOL instant messaging, etc. We have best army in the world. Now that I've made my case please continue to give us billions of dollars otherwise we will be destroyed in holocaust 2.0! What secret nuclear arsenal?"
ilmdge posted:http://www.salon.com/2013/11/11/stop_thanking_the_troops_for_me_no_they_dont_protect_our_freedoms/lmao at some of the examples of troop fellating in this article
thats an interesting article and thank God that he has the freedom to write it because of our brave Troops
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:the gangster for capitalism angle is pretty weird. just admitting that you're the hired gun of imperialism gets points for honesty at least, but it doesn't actually defend your actions, just accuses critics of hypocrisy. but hypocrisy arguments are always facile, especially when coming from someone who is more directly and actively involved in the evil act. so a person can correctly criticize pederasty even if they watch kiddy porn and nobody is going to stand behind the kidfucker and denounce said critic for hypocrisy
he's speaking about his past, it would be different if he said yeah this rifle kills for capital DWI bitches. Despite growing up in america and marinating in the propaganda all his life and becoming Troop to Save The Freedom, he still managed to keep some small shred of humanity alive and either retain or develop for the first time some basic cognitive ability and realized what it was all about and walked away and said something. Most troops never do that. They just keep on being abhorrent ghouls getting thanked by random people everywhere for being the junior varsity murderboy every time they turn around. Some get it and just kill themselves. Some few express how repulsive what they did was in hopes of dissuading others but no one ever hears 
about 90% of the time when i'm criticizing troopposters on the internet them they'll physically threaten me, usually implicitly (nice internet courage, you'd never say that to my face, etc) but sometimes explicitly (i'd kick your ass if you said that to me you fucking faggot), and without my saying anything particularly offensive. it's really a great and scientifically replicable demonstration of how violent, unstable and subnormal they are
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:about 90% of the time when i'm criticizing troopposters on the internet them they'll physically threaten me, usually implicitly (nice internet courage, you'd never say that to my face, etc) but sometimes explicitly (i'd kick your ass if you said that to me you fucking faggot), and without my saying anything particularly offensive. it's really a great and scientifically replicable demonstration of how violent, unstable and subnormal men are
ftfy
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:about 90% of the time when i'm criticizing troopposters on the internet them they'll physically threaten me, usually implicitly (nice internet courage, you'd never say that to my face, etc) but sometimes explicitly (i'd kick your ass if you said that to me you fucking faggot), and without my saying anything particularly offensive. it's really a great and scientifically replicable demonstration of how violent, unstable and subnormal they are
that right there is what i like to call Prime Trolling Territory (PTT)
Also LOL at the statistics in the 2008 report. In 2007 the median household income was 52,673, but the 3rd quintile is 42-51k. Also the extravagant family income of 65,032 placed your fat bourgeois pig ass in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the USA, a place of fair and reasonable income distribution where the wealthiest families only made a quarter mil a year in the year before the new depression hit. Good to know.